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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>that godawful Scott McKenzie song, <br /><em>people in motion, people in motion…</em> </q><br />That <strong><em>is</em></strong> a strange vibration...</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						I've been dragging Muybridge's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Human-Figure-Motion-Eadweard-Muybridge/dp/0486202046/ref=pd_sim_b_1?ie=UTF8&amp;refRID=0G1NW9T0C9CQPF9FSYTJ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">human</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Animals-Motion-Dover-Anatomy-Artists/dp/0486202038" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">animal</a> meisterworks around with me for years, and they still put me in mind of that godawful Scott McKenzie song, <em>people in motion, people in motion...</em>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:12:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>silent raindrop...</strong><br /><q>Art, meet Sience</q><br />The prophet Paul Simon introduces his partner to the neon sounds of his old friend, Darkness...</p><p>;-  )</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:39:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Gilbert &amp; George the Horse &ndash; Mk I</strong><br /><q>Sience, say hello to Art</q><br />that sapient is astride a neigh-sayer, if ever I saw one!</p><p>;-  )</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:26:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Art, meet Sience. Sience, say hello to Art.</q><br />Eadweard Muybridge, whose work that happens to be, never claimed to be an artist. He was the world’s first – and last – self-styled <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu2KIqepfS4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">zoopraxicographer</a>. The invention of the cinema killed off the new science he claimed to pioneer.</p><p>His motion studies…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:21:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>At school it was.</q></p><p>That's where it seemed the least profound to me, since vast numbers of kids do both. In fact a little bit of both was core to the curriculum when I was at school, at least until about the age of 15. Of course there were some…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:38:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><q>The arts science split was/is profound.</p><p>You think? I know loads of people who were talented in both.</q></p><p>At school it was.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:45:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Don’t really know how useful that would have been today though……..waste of t im e REaLly.</q></p><p>The only friend I had at school who took typing as an elective is now a self-made millionaire. Amusingly, he can't touch type and I can. I taught myself in about 2 days.</p><p><q>The…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:10:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>ring runner...</strong><br /><q>Canned that one….</q><br />big cans  (or rubbish bins) are good for making <a href="http://skullsinthestars.com/2012/08/28/physics-demonstrations-vortex-cannon/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">smoke ring generating vortex cannons</a></p><p>PS: I've always been a very 'knotty boy'...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:48:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Edit……</p><p>Canned that one….</p><p>Dalziel again!!</p><p>Good for knotty problems though.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:02:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>When I was in the 4th form I wanted to learn typing. Why I don't know but it was a skill I thought was cool 'cos I liked typewriters!! (Pulling them apart :-)  )</p><p>Don't really know how useful that would have been today though........waste  of t im  e REaLly.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:01:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>    Science communication</p><p>ain’t no communication going on with those ‘slacker’ kids!<br />Science dictates that they need to be taught that that string needs to be taut, too…</q></p><p>You are missing the artistic use of shading in the photo and the delicate colour choices.</p><p>All much more impt than the mere…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:53:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>string theory...</strong><br /><q>Science communication</q><br />ain't no communication going on with those 'slacker' kids!<br />Science dictates that they need to be taught that that string needs to be taut, too...</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>the curse of the recursive recluse...</strong><br /><q> JD Salinger-grade photo-shy... </q><br /> I think I meant 'Thomas Pynchon-grade photo-shy'...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:37:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>the world is a feast of ideas...</strong><br />This thread seems an excellent place for a link to one of Australia's JD Salinger-grade photo-shy science fiction writer, Greg Egan's stories:<br /><a href="http://gregegan.customer.netspace.net.au/MISC/RUINS/Ruins.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">In the Ruins</a><br /><q> The waitress placed two plates of chocolate cake in front of them, then sensed the tension and withdrew…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:41:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Science communication? That sounds like a great degree if you think that sciency stuff sounds really cool, but you and maths pretty much parted company at NCEA Level 1. Or if you're a university manager wanting to get more bums on seats in the science faculty.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:41:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> Science communication</q></p><p>Sigh.</p><p>My biggest regret from school was dropping English, I was good at it, mostly because I read so much. But I didn't think I needed it. I was wrong and had to learn how to write all over agian during my post BSc studies.</p><p>/rant<br />The ability…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:30:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Science Communication seem to be the new thing &ndash; with courses popular at university. Strange how trends change, especially for girls. Gross generalisations on my part but my impression was that in the 1980s it was law. In the late 1990s when my daughter was at school accounting was big…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:30:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>I think that the point in promoting the acronym, is to emphasize well rounded education.</q></p><p>My daughter and I both came through high school very good at both English and Biology. After uni, I discovered there was such a thing as anthropology, and I probably would have loved it. My…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:48:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I think that the point in promoting the acronym, is to emphasize well rounded education. It’s not such a long time ago, that if you didn’t show tidy hand writing, you didn’t go to university. Never mind the bullocks</q></p><p>My father was forced to choose between French and Maths at…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:01:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alyona Medelyan</title>
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						Choosing IT, but then finding it "financially impossible to escape" sounds like a case of not following your passion, which is also not ideal.  I think there are so many great research areas out there that are both in high demand and are fascinating to be working in. With STEAM…
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				<title>Alyona Medelyan</title>
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						It does cover all of these fields, but not all research subjects that one may choose to specialise in, even if they fall into Science or Tech, are in demand.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>How does the term STEAM not cover any field of study you could possibly follow, from circus arts to welding to nuclear physics?</p><p>The programming trade has been good to me, on the whole. The caveats would be that it was both more rewarding and more lucrative before it became…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:46:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>NZ is a dead end where enormous volume of qualified phds are left doing technicians jobs that only a few years ago were filled by BSc. The others are left on unemployment, or working in completely different fields for low income – after spending a fortune on education. Return on…</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:21:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alyona Medelyan</title>
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						Hi JC, I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience, but I think we shouldn't generalise here. STEAM stands for "Science, Technology, Engineering, Arts, Maths", it does not stand for "a PhD in a subfield of Science that's hard to get a job in, in NZ". Everybody should…
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				<title>JC Carter</title>
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						<p>I work in science (industry).  In a female dominated field (cept for HOD/Prof level ...  strange that).  I interact with many academics, male and female.</p><p>I wouldn't recommend anyone, male or female, get involved in STEAM.  Run, run like hell.  Unless you manage to get off shore employment/scholarship.   I retrained…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>That would be like cutting funding for teachers and closing schools and then saying because there are unemployed teachers we don’t need them.</q></p><p>If there were too many teachers for the number of schools, you could certainly say they were oversupplied. Yes, increasing the number of schools could be an…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Lots of economic studies have done exactly that.</q></p><p>Measured the exact social need for pure science? How much was it?</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Well, you could just as easily say there are too many graduates for the existing science funding.</q></p><p>No. That would be like cutting funding for teachers and closing schools and then saying because there are unemployed teachers we don’t need them.</p><p>Wait, that IS what you are saying &ndash; that's…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>    While society has exactly the same need for pure science</p><p>I don’t know how one could even begin to measure such a thing.</q></p><p>Lots of economic studies have done exactly that. Essentially investment in science is one of the weird factors in economics that is non-linear. They came up with…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>probably what you mean is the science projects without an immediately obvious product</q></p><p>That's exactly what I meant.</p><p><q>While society has exactly the same need for pure science</q></p><p>I don't know how one could even begin to measure such a thing.</p><p><q>Thus in real dollar terms science funding has declined…</q></p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>barriers to participating at the professional academic level</q></p><p>Also sexism is alive and well in the hallowed halls making some departments unattractive.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>demand has been pushed down</q></p><p>Precisely.</p><p>In the "pure sciences" (probably what you mean is the science projects without an immediately obvious product) the vast majority of funding comes from the government. This is true in every country, regardless of how you play with definitions to make projects look like…</p>
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						Yup, I meant the labour is oversupplied. Although Bart could be correct if he is asserting that demand has been pushed down. But I'm not sure what time period he's talking over &ndash; pure science was a second rate income for a first rate mind even when I was a…
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>My daughter has a pair of periodic table, basket ball boots, which tend to force conversations.</q></p><p>My daughter was with me on a shopping trip, buying electronic components for a control system. The shop we were in didn't have all the gear I needed and the assistant said "Oh, try…</p>
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						<p>I think Ben means that there is a surplus of qualified people (at various levels) to available jobs in the pure sciences. In e.g. computer science, the opposite is true and in general, those with skills will be able to find (well) paid work. </p><p>(Although there is the issue that…</p>
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						<p><q>I hate to use an economics word, but pure science does seem oversupplied</q></p><p>Absolutely not true. What has instead happened is that funding in sciences has been steadily cut in order to make room for tax cuts. The value of pure science to the economy (according to economists) has not…</p>
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						I hate to use an economics word, but pure science does seem oversupplied, when people complain that after 25-30 years of education, they struggle to get any kind of wage at all.
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>One thing I can see going on is that the ‘apprenticeship’ phase for life sciences seems to drag out WAY the hell longer than it does for some others. My friends in areas like pharmacology did multiple long postdocs apiece as a necessary prerequisite to proceeding in academia. My CS…</q>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>If we frame this in the context of the current discussion: [some of] the sciences where women are participating at or even over a 50-50 ratio have more barriers to participating at the professional academic level</q></p><p>Yup. A particular problem in the life sciences. And the punitive post-doc structure is…</p>
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						One thing I can see going on is that the 'apprenticeship' phase for life sciences seems to drag out WAY the hell longer than it does for some others.  My friends in areas like pharmacology did multiple long postdocs apiece as a necessary prerequisite to proceeding in academia. My CS…
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						On STEM/STEAM &ndash; at intermediate school level there is now a huge Design element in Tech.  It's no longer a matter of the class simply following a set 'recipe' to make identical items &ndash; students go through a full design process with loads of scope for creativity. If anything it…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Glad to hear that, Don! Thanks for noting it.
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						<p>Thanks for this initiative. Very inspiring. As per above, I hope forgiveness for the following...</p><p>If you have daughters (and sons) interested in open source technologies please do consider telling them about the "Catalyst Open Source Academy". It's been going for over 5 years and we are seeing over 50%…</p>
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						<p><q>I’ve never met anyone who has done an unpaid science/tech internship in the US, and don’t really ever expect to.</q></p><p>Yes BUT. </p><p>While it's true undergrads are usually paid and paid quite well, after the PhD it is a completely different story. I have seen several post-docs asked to work…</p>
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						<p><q>On the other hand, industries like publishing seem to have unpaid intern labor built into their business model, which is clearly despicable.</q></p><p>It has only recently started to become more common in New Zealand. But this news came through yesterday: [[http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2015/feb/10/newsquestgannett-plans-to-charge-students-to-write-for-its-titles|the British branch of the US newspaper company Gannett wants…</p>
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						<p>Nail on the head.</p><p>STEAM is fantastic, STEM alone always really bothered me.</p>
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						Thanks Alyona, I've pledged for the Tech Rangers event.  It'd be great to see this kind of thing get off the ground regularly.  My daughter is keen to go so I hope they meet the target!
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						This is a great and timely initiative &ndash; three cheers for it. Have been thinking for some time that there needs to be more out there in media land profiling creative young women who have design expertise and artistic flair as well as strategic and scientific thinking skills and have…
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				<title>Andrew C</title>
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						<p>Thanks David.</p><p>I have listed the top 20 from the 2010 survey.</p><p>1.  Hairdresser<br />2.  Kindergarten teacher<br />3.  Air hostess/steward<br />4.  Primary school teacher<br />5.  Lawyer<br />6.  Doctor<br />7.  Police officer<br />8.  Architect<br />9.  Chef<br />10. Veterinarian<br />11. Journalist/reporter<br />12. Waitress<br />13. Physiotherapist<br />14. Fashion Model<br />15. Florist<br />16. Nurse…</p>
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						<p>I think I’ve found the data, Edit {I thought at a glance there was one subset that had the two at 1 &amp; 2 in 1979, but I was wrong, it does seem to be the data though}</p><p><a href="http://women.govt.nz/sites/public_files/students-occupational-choice.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://women.govt.nz/sites/public_files/students-occupational-choice.pdf</a></p>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<p>I think internships and treatment of interns depend heavily on the industry as well as the country.</p><p>I’ve never met anyone who has done an unpaid science/tech internship in the US, and don’t really ever expect to. It’s much more typical to work for a summer at a reasonable pay…</p>
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						<p>I'm kinda weary of promoting internships unless they are paid because<br />a) if they are not paid then only the rich can afford to take them up and<br />b) if they are not paid then it tends to be an informal process in the "hiring" which means they go to…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>As a crusty old male scientist, can I just say this is freakin' awesome.</p><p>Any efforts to get more girls keen to apply their talents to science is very much appreciated. Far too many grant panels and planning meetings are bathed in testosterone. One day we might even get some…</p>
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				<title>Alyona Medelyan</title>
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						<p>I'd also like to see the complete survey, but I couldn't find it so far.<br />If anybody comes across it, please share here.</p>
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						<p><q>The top two most-desired careers are airhostess and hairdresser</q></p><p>Out of interest, has there been a survey of boys the same age too, and if so what were their top 2?</p>
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						I went to my niece's 21st birthday recently. Her cohort were heavily into the sciences at school with several now at medical school or similar. Career aims are to work in scientific research or groups like Medicins Sans Frontieres. The speeches from her friends were along the lines of 'what…
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						I really like the way the Tech Girls Are Superheroes bios show people whose lives and interests combine arts and sciences. This seems like a big improvement over the old-school posters and book sections that seemed to suggest that if you Did Science then that was all you did (except…
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						Hi Rich, I believe there may be a different problem here: NZ companies look out for people who have at least some work experience, but many students don't strive to gain such experience while studying. Internships are super important, and I would recommend students to write to companies and seek…
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						<p>Hi Tamara,<br />Thanks for your comment!<br />The age group isn't set in stone. If you and your daughters would enjoy such an event, please come along. It's free!<br />Routine could be hard, but if you just get them to go to an event or a class twice a year, it…</p>
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						<p>A bit of blatant advertising, for which I hope Russell forgives me, but fans of Nanogirl should check out </p><p><a href="http://www.aucklandfestival.co.nz/events/think-science-day-nanogirl-at-great-hall/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.aucklandfestival.co.nz/events/think-science-day-nanogirl-at-great-hall/</a></p>
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						<p><q> most mad scientists are actually mad engineers</q></p><p>There is the fact that in our "rock star" economy there are bugger all jobs for science graduates (anecdotally, I know several life sciences grads who had no luck at all finding a job in the field, and NZ is supposed to be…</p>
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						<p>My daughter is generally seen as a high preforming young (highschool) scientist, and does an answer science questions on Tumblr (as that is a young peoples domain). Her one minimum page biology homework report she wrote last night was two pages and included graphs with error estimation.</p><p>While she is…</p>
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						<p><strong> a full head of self e-STEAM...</strong><br />That is a great initiative &ndash; mechanics and civics are both much under encouraged in this country.<br />The shades of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hypatia</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ada Lovelace</a> beam down encouragingly I'm sure &ndash; vive la difference engine!</p>
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						I like the idea of STEAM, in fact have long been frustrated at the arbitrary division that's placed between art/design and technology/engineering.  The development of a concept into a real object involves many of the same skills whether the item created is a tech gadget or an item of clothing,…
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						Thanks for telling us about this.  My girls are too young for the event unfortunately.  I come from a Stem family and enjoy popular science but I'm not in that area professionally myself.  I'd love my girls to have more opportunities in science and tech but it is hard to…
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