Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Why churches should marry same-sex couples https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333535#post333535 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333535#post333535 Anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrPuaLLpKE

]]> Fri, 12 Dec 2014 08:06:21 +1300 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333534#post333534 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333534#post333534 With regards point 1: Didn’t Jesus heal the gay centurion’s lover? Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10

I just had a gink at these two.

Servant is mentioned. For all my years I have never heard the word servant being used as a term for a gay person. Have I missed…

]]> Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:45:39 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333292#post333292 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333292#post333292 Wow, I'm gobsmacked! http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/63934551/Pastor-told-gay-Christian-Go-kill-yourself

One would be forgiven for thinking the Westcity Baptists are a very twisted comedy troupe, just like the Westboro Baptists. Michael Moore certainly does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d7zuJN_irE

]]> Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:51:48 +1300 Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333153#post333153 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333153#post333153 Wow, I'm gobsmacked!

The goods news is that Facebook supports him. I reported his failbook page as hate speech and they've just got back to me to say that it's fine and what he says there is acceptable. I am tempted to make a fan page where I describe in…

]]> Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:36:33 +1300 TracyMac https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333115#post333115 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333115#post333115 While I applaud the intention of this effort, nothing much is going to change until the homophobia underlying the doctrinal beliefs of this and other churches is addressed.

Similar to how marriage laws didn't change until laws against homosexuality were repealed, and discrimination against homosexuals (and other sexualities) was outlawed...…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:02:26 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333113#post333113 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333113#post333113 I suspect they were worried about defamation risk in re-publishing an allegation of child molestation. Not with any real grounds, of course, but that’s my guess.

And honestly, I'd give The Herald the benefit of the doubt there though, of course, paraphrases should be clearly labelled as such. In the…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:54:34 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333106#post333106 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333106#post333106 Meanwhile The NZ Herald presents a quote – as if it were verbatim:
“I pray that you will commit suicide, you filthy fag.”
yet they edited some of the egregious material out without indicating that they had.
Were they trying to water it down or what?

I suspect they were…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:15:32 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333105#post333105 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333105#post333105 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:08:51 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333100#post333100 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333100#post333100 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:03:30 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333097#post333097 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333097#post333097 re the Pastor praying for someone to commit suicide:

I note that Stuff has a screen shot of the email which ends:
""I pray that you will commit suicide, you filthy child molesting fag."
which is a bit different to their headline:
"Pastor told gay Christian: Go kill yourself"

Meanwhile…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:52:22 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333095#post333095 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333095#post333095 OTT OT devotee...Wow, I'm gobsmacked!
Pastor Logan Robertson is a Cyber Bully and possibly in contravention of the law regarding inciting to suicide and misuse of electronic media, not to mention his accusing the sender of child molestation –
Robertson should change his name to 'Pastor his use by date'…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:42:14 +1300 GarethD https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333094#post333094 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333094#post333094 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:31:23 +1300 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333093#post333093 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333093#post333093 Isnt the idea of a church wedding because we are confused about who is really deciding who can be married , or not.
In the end for NZ its the State, but they license approved church officials to do it for them. of course you can get a ‘registry office…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:05:20 +1300 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333080#post333080 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333080#post333080 Yeah, just saw that....

Jesus wept.

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:40:22 +1300 Jeremy Andrew https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333078#post333078 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333078#post333078 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/63934551/Pastor-told-gay-Christian-Go-kill-yourself ]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:31:59 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333071#post333071 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333071#post333071 Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:37:42 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333065#post333065 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333065#post333065 My favourite was when it was ok to be gay as long as you never did anything, hate the sin love the sinner sort of rubbish

What I find particularly adorable is the whole "equality of civil marriage, which we don't doctrinally recognize anyway, is a vicious attack on religious…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:11:09 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333064#post333064 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333064#post333064 A cruel idea framed as a kind one.

It's also a horribly confused one, but I've kind of given up splattering my brains up against that particular brick wall.

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:03:44 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333062#post333062 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333062#post333062 My favourite was when it was ok to be gay as long as you never did anything, hate the sin love the sinner sort of rubbish

A cruel idea framed as a kind one.

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 09:50:24 +1300 Sue https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333061#post333061 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333061#post333061 The Presbyterian Church faces similar issues. Sadly those Churches (like St Andrews on the Terrace) who have long been members and advocates of the LGBT community are in the minority within the Presbyterian church at large.

But in their case do they split from a national church or do they…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 09:45:20 +1300 Ben Ross https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333056#post333056 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333056#post333056 Meanwhile this: http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/family-first-fights-to-remain-tax-free-charity-2014120805
Family First NZ says it's continuing to fight to remain a tax-free charity.

The group was advised in 2013 the Charities Commission intended to deregister the charity, citing Family First's traditional view of marriage being one man and one woman as one of the reasons.

Family First…

]]> Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:25:45 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333055#post333055 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-why-churches-should-marry-same-sex/?p=333055#post333055 Discussion from blog post.

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