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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>“Anything worthwhile in life, as any adult with adult experience knows, when you’re trying to get people to shift positions or agree on something which they’re not comfortable with, requires discretion,” said Groser.</q></p><p>*snort*</p><p>Groser clearly has an interesting negotiating technique.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:42:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Campaigners against the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade negotiations want the negotiating texts made public to help ensure the process fails, says Trade Minister Tim Groser.</q></p><p>Translation: "Explaining is losing."</p><p>And already, US Senate Leader Harry Reid has <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/30/senate-leader-harry-reid-i-am-against-fast-tracking-the-trans-pacific-partnership/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">vetoed fast-tracking</a> for the TPPA.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:30:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><a href="http://newzealandinc.com/calls-for-tpp-transparency-are-code-for-destroying-it-says-groser/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Campaigners against the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade negotiations want the negotiating texts made public to help ensure the process fails, says Trade Minister Tim Groser.</a></p><p>Fine with me.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:22:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Clever old John Key, bucking the trend</q></p><p>You can't buy it back if you don't sell it. And guess whose buddies clip the ticket both ways.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:31:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Can’t find it anywhere else, yet…</q><br />Here it is...  via <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/hills-and-harbour/9621884/Sanctuary-in-spot-earmarked-for-drilling" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <em>The Press</em></a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:19:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-tpp-nearing-endgame/?p=304833#post304833</link>
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						<p><strong>What the Hector!?</strong><br />I see this story in <em>The Christchurch Star’s</em> odd print-based retrieval system (and only real web portal for information that they have)<br /><a href="http://issuu.com/the.star/docs/114017cs/3?e=1420315/6374848" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Councillors stunned by Govt drilling proposal</a><br />Can’t find it anywhere else, yet…</p><p>Simon Bridges knowingly includes a mere ‘just 10%’ of [[http://www.doc.govt.nz/conservation/marine-and-coastal/other-marine-protection/banks-peninsula/|Banks Peninsula Marine Mammal…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:33:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>truth to power (companies)...</strong><br />This seems the most recent and appropriate thread to post this  glimpse into our future:<br /><a href="http://www.thelocal.de/20140116/hamburg-buys-its-energy-grid-back-for-400-million" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">German city buys its electricity grid back...</a> due to citizens referendum.<br /><q>More than 200 power grids and water systems have been bought by local administrations in Germany since 2007, according to…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:10:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						From today's Granny: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=11187155" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Leak reveals ongoing TPP tussles</a>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:23:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>this time it’s about weakening environmental regulations.</q></p><p>That’s not really accurate. It’s about not tightening environmental regulations.</p><p>ETA: What's particularly curious is that everyone else, even NZ, is resisting the tighter language. What's up on WikiLeaks doesn't really go into enough detail to know why that is.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:07:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Another big TPPA leak, and this time it's about weakening environmental regulations. Who knows how many days it'll take for local media to report it. I've tweeted a couple of TPPA loyalists for their 2c worth.</p><p>&ndash; <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-09/warne-smith-the-environment-will-pay-for-free-trade/5192156" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ABC: The environment would pay for 'free trade'</a><br />&ndash; [[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/politics/administration-is-seen-as-retreating-on-environment-in-talks-on-pacific-trade.html|NYT: Administration Is Seen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 00:42:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Yeah that was weird, comment spam now deleted
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 08:36:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Wow, comment spam! Not used to seeing that on PAS.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:35:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-tpp-nearing-endgame/?p=302260#post302260</link>
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						<p><q>May well amount to the same thing</q><br />...meanwhile, from the far side of the Sun<br /><a href="http://www.spaceweather.com/images2013/25nov13/ison_encke_nov19_23_crop_hi1a.gif?PHPSESSID=f1i7df0uouaf1havk1nv2n2dm6" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">two comets are buffeted by solar winds...</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:15:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>If this is finance sector tantrum-throwing in the here &amp; now, imagine what it would be like under the TPPA in its current form.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9443805/Bank-of-Tokyo-threatened-Government" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bank of Tokyo threatened Government</a></p><p>__The Bank of Tokyo threatened the Government with bad publicity and warned of implications for foreign investment if it was forced to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:57:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>    ...to own their product until the end of the planet.</p><p>or at least until we have another world war.<br />;- (</q></p><p>May well amount to the same thing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:31:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...to own their product until the end of the planet.</q><br />or at least until we have another world war.<br />;- (</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:27:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>He’s not making it up, though I don’t have a supporting link.</q></p><p>I'm not familiar with this but here's a press release from the Aussie Fair Trade and Investment Network (whatever that is) which more or less repeats what you've just said, <a href="http://aftinet.org.au/cms/node/519" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">after a speedy search</a>:</p><p>__"The Philip Morris tobacco…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:25:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Is there a link for that? I’d have thought the courts would throw that one out on the grounds of double-jeopardy (already having had one crack at it).</q></p><p>He's not making it up, though I don't have a supporting link. Aus has a trade agreement with Hong Kong that provides…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:02:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p><q>(Aside: This actually happened in Australia where Philip Morris sued the government for regulation of cigarette packaging. When the local courts didn't work, PM moved all business offshore, declared themselves a foreign company and sued again).</q></p><p>Is there a link for that? I'd have thought the courts would throw that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:31:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p><q>Um &ndash; what's the point of a free trade agreement if it bans free trade </q></p><p>The general line is that the TPP is a series of chapters about de-regulating industry in order to facilitate free trade... except for the IP chapter which is all about tight regulation in order to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:00:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<p><q>Not all of them are as dramatic as above.</q></p><p>GM labeling anyone?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:06:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><em>We clearly have different uses in mind.. :)</em></p><p>Whoops. Changed horses halfway through there, and then pressed print instead of preview.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:52:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q> They'll also be able to veto parallel importing.</q></p><p>Um &ndash; what's the point of a free trade agreement if it bans free trade ....</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:08:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>For example, say that New Zealand’s condoms started catching on fire. An ordinary government would impose a regulatory solution to ensure that all New Zealanders were safe, and that poorly designed or defective petrol pumps no longer caused harm. </q></p><p>We clearly have different uses in mind.. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:49:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Pete</title>
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						Matthew Hooton is ALWAYS trolling
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:35:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>"But they’ll never ratify it!” isn’t all that reassuring …</q></p><p>Fortunately New Zealand’s parliament is very compact, efficient and effective at getting legislation passed when compared with some of these other ones, so we can be sure to uphold our side of the bargain no matter what problems the US…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:57:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>I can't tell if Matthew Hooton is trolling either. And if he is trolling, is it because his clients think this is a boring agreement, or because his clients think this is an exciting agreement. I'm not going to assume anything.</p><p>I'm going to have to skim over the chapter…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:25:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>M.A.D. …</strong><br /><q>As well as….</q><br />Cognitive dissonance to burn!<br />Listening to the American politicians on the Iran Nuclear issue is maddening – they ‘don’t trust Iran’ – but who would (could) trust the masters of subterfuge and duplicity, aka the U.S.? <br />Once again all the news on TV says how…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:49:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p><q>this really is a boring topic</q></p><p>Can't tell if trolling but... I do sometimes wonder if that's why the media haven't done much on this. OpEds and stories in the political section of the paper don't get much traction. We need the clickbait headlines: <br />**The Government is signing a secret…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:41:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Mate, the Tea Party Republicans are totally against this deal. You, Jane Kelsey and they are allies in this matter!</q></p><p>As well as cyber-snooping gone mad, corporate welfare gone mad, drone assassinations gone mad...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:51:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>I don’t want to be unkind to the writer, especially being quite new to this blog, but this really is a boring topic. I doubt a TPP can be signed that would be acceptable to free trade countries (NZ, Singapore etc) and if it were acceptable to us, then the…</q>
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				<title>Matthew  Hooton</title>
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						Mate, the Tea Party Republicans are totally against this deal. You, Jane Kelsey and they are allies in this matter!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:42:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew  Hooton</title>
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						I don't want to be unkind to the writer, especially being quite new to this blog, but this really is a boring topic. I doubt a TPP can be signed that would be acceptable to free trade countries (NZ, Singapore etc) and if it were acceptable to us, then the…
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						<p><q>the answer seems to be that our parliament is not revolting.</q></p><p>Was more meaning the US than us, but certainly elements of both parliaments <em>are</em> revolting. It's just that, both there and here, it's the minorities in the empowered bodies that are revolting. In the US it's the Republicans who…</p>
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						<p><q>You mean, much in keeping with the current situation, then?</q></p><p>More so. It's all about incrementally boiling the frog. The game is "just how much can we take before they revolt". And the answer  seems to be that our parliament is not revolting.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>The only way to “win” there is to make, and keep, your laws so corporate-friendly that there’s no possible grounds for a court case. “win”.</q></p><p>You mean, much in keeping with the current situation, then?</p>
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						<p><q> "from what I understand the TPP is largely similar to the Oz FTA"<br />IOW, Australia is taking the position "We got fucked, so now we're going to try and make sure you get fucked too."</q></p><p>Actually, Australia stands to get even more fucked by the TPP, there are a few…</p>
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						"fair trade" :)
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						<p><q>And from what I understand the TPP is largely similar to that FTA</q></p><p>IOW, Australia is taking the position "We got fucked, so now we're going to try and make sure you get fucked too."</p>
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						<p>That's exactly right. The copyright regime the US is trying to shove down everybody's throats is almost identical to the one in the Australian FTA.</p><p>The extra 20 years for copyright after death has been estimated to cost Australia about $88 million a year. They'll also be able to veto…</p>
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						<p><q>I'd say that it has more to do with the political culture of the people in the two main parties and their affinities and allegiances and ideas, than it has to do with anything else.</q><br />Well and the fact that AU and US have a FTA already in place. And…</p>
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						__I’m not finding this totally surprising. There are obvious similarities with NZ, but it always felt like a much more Americanised culture than NZ during the few years I was living there. Maybe something about all the levels of government, the tax return process (heaps of people pay someone else…
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						<p><q>Australia though is the US’s closest ally.</q></p><p>I’m not finding this totally surprising. There are obvious similarities with NZ, but it always felt like a much more Americanised culture than NZ during the few years I was living there.  Maybe something about all the levels of government, the tax return…</p>
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						<p><q>long patents on chemicals would prevent New Zealand's farmers from being able to use the best and most productive products for the care and improvement of their plants and livestock</q></p><p>Not prevent so much as alter the benefit:cost equation such that they might not be financially viable. Which is unlikely…</p>
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						The proposal to allow patents on medical procedures is extremely wide. Such laws cover 'any procedure not performed with bare hands', as surgeons groups have put it. They add huge costs to US medical care, and would impose those same costs on any other country that had to pay them.…
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						oops! I left editing notes in the document, fixing now!
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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