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				<title>Lindsay Vette</title>
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						The plight of victims of crime is appalling and made worse by the justice system. It's not the lawyers' fault, nor is it the fault of the judges, it's legislation that must change for things to change. Defence lawyers unfortunately are duty bound to do all that they can to…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:57:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nightwyrm</title>
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						Thank you for your courage in sharing, June. Arohanui.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 15:55:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rachel</title>
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						I am about to head off to Jury Service for the first time. While trying to sort out the household and childcare arrangements so I can do this, I have found my thoughts coming back to your story quite often. I am sorry for your experience, but grateful for your…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:01:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mireille</title>
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						I wish I could give you a hug, June. For what you've been through, and for your extraordinary moral courage.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 20:07:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave G</title>
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						<p>I just registered to say thanks for sharing. It's heartbreaking to read about the court process you endured.</p><p>I was part of a jury a few months back for a sexual assault case. The trial was a horrible experience and I was completely shattered at the end of it. The…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 22:51:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rebekah Holt</title>
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						June, I went through a shorter version of what you did. Only one trial six months after the first aborted one and 8 years after the initial complaint. I was naive about the trial process because I thought I knew about courts. I had worked in news and for the…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:47:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Herkt</title>
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						<p>I can only echo everyone’s thanks, June. There is nothing quite like communicated experience to allow other people to consider things. I can feel the ordeal – and its awful repetitions.</p><p>I sat on a jury in a sexual case two years ago. It was vastly different from your own.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 14:36:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>My experience is different, I thought that I was a criminal, because what was going on was illegal ( gender) ... And here I am now, openly mentioning it on the internet. But at my own pace.</q></p><p>Good for you, Steven. I'm pleased that you've been able to share your…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:51:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lissa Saint Claire</title>
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						<p>I registered today to say: THANK YOU.</p><p>I imagine a lot of readers are finishing this article in stunned silence.</p><p>Many will be reading, nodding their head, in tears.</p><p>Either way, this is an important piece, and I stand with you in solidarity and anger. So many of us do.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:13:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						<p>I wish we did have the answers  right now victims have 2 choices<br />say nothing, keep it quiet to yourself and the world and know it might happen to someone else and feel unresolved forever<br />say something and have it happen to you over and over again</p><p>no matter what…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 07:29:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>June-</title>
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						<p>I wasn't going to comment on here but really wanted to acknowledge the amazing comments that have been posted – Thank you – Having a truly supportive community to play host to material like this make writing and publishing it a lot easier.<br />I'm also sorry to all those that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 00:01:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						thank you june
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:51:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I can see why the police discouraged me from laying a complaint.</q></p><p>Oh Heather, that made me cry even more.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:09:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>It’s interesting that that this post is getting plenty of views (and 50-plus retweets on Twitter) but only a few comments.</q></p><p>What can we say except we are sorry the system has failed so badly?</p><p>Our sympathy and tears are real.</p><p>But what changes?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:07:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Heather Goode</title>
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						<p>Oh June, I'm so so sorry you had this experience. The childhood abuse, the rape, and the dreadful court process. You are very very brave. Much braver than me. I can see why the police discouraged me from laying a complaint.<br />I hope you did make a difference to his…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:29:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Thank you for doing this, June. If you ever asked yourself – ’Will writing this make any difference?” … well, it has.</q></p><p>+1</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:50:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Thank you for writing this June. I just hope that writing such as yours, and the bravery of all the other women who have told their stories, such as Louise Nicholas, helps people understand the injustice of it all a bit more. Judge-only trials might be an improvement. But a…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:20:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p><q>It's interesting that that this post is getting plenty of views (and 50-plus retweets on Twitter) but only a few comments. Because it's hard to know what to say.</q></p><p>So true. </p><p>Thank you for doing this, June. If you ever asked yourself &ndash; 'Will writing this make any difference?" ...…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:14:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Thanks June. That was so brave – and so horrible for you. And must be for many many women. We have to change this mangled way of attempting to find ‘justice’. Judge-only trials would be a start. A judge could ask questions without accusations and shouting. Far too often it…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:45:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>WaterDragon</title>
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						June thank you for this-I can only guess how wretchedly awful and plain eviscerating the whole experience/s must have been. Like a number of others I find myself angry-almost shakingly so. I'm still uncomfortable at some incoherent level, (and I think it has much to do with my concerns about…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:43:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						Given the numbers I keep finding, it seems the problem will usually be the jury has an unacknowledged abuser on it. It's their personal ability to dominate the feelings of others toward blaming the victims, something they get a lot of practice at, which either hangs or sways the jury…
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						Russel, I'm pretty sure you've published people's pieces on this subject before. I remember reading one before I made a submission to a select committee on this subject. IIRC that report has been put in the "things for the next review to consider" pile. I'd love to be wrong and…
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>It's taking me a while to think this post through .  Some of things I want to say are quite political, so I don't actually want to say them here.  Because that seems wrong to me. </p><p>But you made me realise that I need to acknowledge this post, and to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:40:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						It's interesting that that this post is getting plenty of views (and 50-plus retweets on Twitter) but only a few comments. Because it's hard to know what to say. I could have posted this yesterday when June sent it to me, but I felt like I needed time to process…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:34:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeanette King</title>
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						Arohanui June, and hugs. Thank you so much for writing about your experience. It's incredibly valuable for us to get a powerful inside glimpse of the dreadful process you've been through.
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p>It's good that you tried to get him convicted, and ghastly that it was so terrible for you.   While reading this piece made me angry, it also left me admiring your courage and determined to try to change things if I get the chance.</p><p>Thanks for speaking the truth.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:30:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Thank you. That was hard to read but must have been much harder to live.</p><p>You have my deepest sympathy.</p><p>But you made me angry as well, angry at every single lawyer in New Zealand.</p><p>Our legal profession have a lot to answer for, they are so self righteous and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:30:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>You speak the truth, and the truth is awful.<br />Love, strength and hope.<br /><3</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:09:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Downbeatdan</title>
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						<p>June, thank you for sharing. <br />Sat on a jury for a trial like your last year, and I can at least report a guilty verdict.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:56:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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