Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: This ain't a scene

David Cormack

Wed, 16 May 2007 12:05:26 +1200

Gah. Wrong forum.

David Cormack

Wed, 16 May 2007 12:04:38 +1200

David Bain's iPod: We Are Family by Sister Sledge

Wha? Too soon?

Sodium Hydroxide

Wed, 16 May 2007 11:55:46 +1200

Bah, that was a reply to a post by Grant McDougall on page one, which i stupidly assumed would end up underneath his post, however, it obviously, has not

Sodium Hydroxide

Wed, 16 May 2007 11:53:26 +1200

define adventurous...

Nobody Important

Tue, 15 May 2007 16:45:20 +1200

I've just been informed that this aint a scene, it's an arms race. So I guess Emo is some sort of revisionist Reaganite movement ....

Russell Clarke

Tue, 15 May 2007 15:58:06 +1200

So they're not the same as Elmos?

Same hair, same voice, maybe they just need a tickle.

Steve Reeves

Mon, 14 May 2007 15:48:10 +1200

Does "emo" have any link to Emo Philips? He is a US stand-up comedian who had "emo"-style hair, a "dreary" dead-pan delivery and

Emo’s specialty was and is taking a routine quote and adding a bizarre—often psychotic--twist. (http://www.weht.net/WEHT/Emo_Philips.html)

the "twist" bit of which also seems to fit the "emo" label.

Rebecca Williams

Mon, 14 May 2007 14:55:40 +1200

totally agree with paul ... poor little emo kids, getting a bashing from their so-much-cooler-and-more-grown-up compatriots. careful, you'll give them something to cry about!

i for one am willing to admit (now that i'm so big and grown up) that my main thing when i was an adolescent was that…

Steve Barnes

Sat, 12 May 2007 14:30:56 +1200

Hippemos? Oh, that's next.
Anypoo, I thought they were called Emus because of the head in the sand thing, or was that Ostripatheticene?

brian

Fri, 11 May 2007 20:48:55 +1200

good column but like so much that passes under my nose these days, I just think 'even this will pass' and you know what? often before I have finished saying it, stuff like emo, gen-x/y/who knows, etc etc has passed or is passe. I have learned not to care. But…

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 20:46:37 +1200

Jackie, I am wearing stirrup Adidas black track pants right now, to raise the tone. I cut the stirrups off though and I'm due a new pair, new stocks available at Westygate September.

Emma Hart

Fri, 11 May 2007 20:26:30 +1200

Well, I'd rather look at pictures of his penis than listen to his music, that's for damn sure.
Wait – he's in a band or something as well?!

Women, raising the tone...

Jackie Clark

Fri, 11 May 2007 20:09:36 +1200

oh merc, yes. And even better, stirrup Adidas trackpants. The blue or black ones with the white stripes down the side. Very tight, very sexy. Bloody marvellous.

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 19:44:32 +1200

Two words, stirrup jeans.

Jackie Clark

Fri, 11 May 2007 19:37:10 +1200

I'm with Paul on this one – and a few others as well. Isn't EMO just a variation of goth of something? I'm never sure, and I don't care. But all young people need to rebel at some stage, to some degree. Oh and the 80's? I love the way…

Paul Campbell

Fri, 11 May 2007 18:10:53 +1200

oh you're all so silly – every age cohort needs their own thing, it has to be different, recognisable and the oldsters have to pooh-pooh it (see you're doing your part ...) .... it's just the way of the world and part of growing up and becoming separate from your…

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 11 May 2007 17:00:17 +1200

Well, I'd rather look at pictures of his penis than listen to his music, that's for damn sure.

Wait – he's in a band or something as well?!

3410

Fri, 11 May 2007 16:12:22 +1200

Blue Rondo a la Turk (now that is a forgotten band)

Remembered by me primarily for the 58 times that I thought, whilst crate-diggin', that I'd found a Dave Grusin record.

Joanna

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:50:14 +1200

P.S. Pete from Fall Out Boy is hot!

Well, I'd rather look at pictures of his penis than listen to his music, that's for damn sure.

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:46:07 +1200

The 'original' emo bands sound nothing like the bands that get labelled with it now

Yeah, I remember that emo period. I was kind of into it back then, but couldn't quite work out how Jimmy Eat World emo begat Fall Out Boy emo.

As for cutting, back in the…

Simon Grigg

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:43:11 +1200

The 'original' emo bands sound nothing like the bands that get labelled with it now

like techno....wonderful electronic soul music from Detroit becomes horrendous euro dance from Belgium..thankfully reclaimed of late.

Rogan Polkinghorne

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:36:12 +1200

The funny thing about 'emo' as it's used today is that it's a far cry from what 'emo' meant when it was originally bandied around in the late 90's – early 00's; 'emo' comes from 'emotional rock', which back then was bands like Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate…

Ben Austin

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:34:15 +1200

the link

Ben Austin

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:26:52 +1200

For some reason I've had this discussion many a time – in my set "emo" is deemed to be an insult or a put down, no doubt due to us all having spent far too much time lazing about on the internet. I've never actually met a real emo, although…

Tom Beard

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:12:35 +1200

emo = goth – vampires

Simon Grigg

Fri, 11 May 2007 15:01:02 +1200

There actually was a another room at The Wag as I recall, but it wasn't cooler or bigger than the main room, just another room. Shitty little club owned by some guys from the Gulf who paid nobody, with Chris O'Sullivan from Blue Rondo a la Turk (now that is…

Heather Gaye

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:54:16 +1200

judging by the rapid recycling of decade defining looks over the last few years, won't the naughties retro parties start happening in 2010 or '11?????
We'll be having 2020's retro parties in 2018.

Rebecca Williams

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:51:27 +1200

judging by the rapid recycling of decade defining looks over the last few years, won't the naughties retro parties start happening in 2010 or '11?????

Heather Gaye

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:36:03 +1200

I think what people get wrong is thinking that music videos from the 70s and 80s are time capsules of what we wore.

Actually, I think what's got wrong is the idea that retro parties and the like are supposed to incorporate the whole of the era they're pastiching. They're…

stephen walker

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:17:11 +1200

rats...NI got in before me!

stephen walker

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:15:11 +1200

You obviously didn't go to A Certain Bar

...or Quays...or Zanzibar...

Nobody Important

Fri, 11 May 2007 14:06:55 +1200

A Certain Bar, Quays, and Zanzibar ... yesindeedee!

And you're right, but I didn't want to make my post too long by adding qualifiers. We may have 'dressed up' when we went out but it was usually a mad dash from the car to the club, cos we knew we…

Simon Grigg

Fri, 11 May 2007 13:53:48 +1200

Okay, some people did dress like they were in Def Leppard but we certainly didn't dress like Boy George.

You obviously didn't go to A Certain Bar....I think I saw Adam and his Ants, Boy George and various Stray Cats there most nights.

Stuff n Things

Fri, 11 May 2007 13:48:34 +1200

Incidentally, do you think this is what emos' put in their hair?

Stuff n Things

Fri, 11 May 2007 13:47:23 +1200

Meh, emos aren't that bad.

When you look at the 'emo' music, it all just seems to be a response to the silly, slutty pop crap music that littered the early noughties. Frankly, any fashion that leads to longer tshirts as a response to muffin-causing hipster styles is a good…

Josh Addison

Fri, 11 May 2007 13:25:21 +1200

Emos are just soft goths. Which, considering goths are just soft punks, makes them pretty soft indeed. Soft squared.

What's funny is listening to the goths rattle off "emo jokes" that up until a few years ago were "goth jokes" — "I've got a goth/emo lawn — it cuts itself"…

Nobody Important

Fri, 11 May 2007 12:40:15 +1200

Emo is just commercial punk dressed-up in goth clothes

Close, but not quite. I definitely chuckled when I first saw Emo's because it was like stepping back into the 80's — been there, worn that. Emo's look pretty harmelss to me, and how else is a closeted 15 year old…

Mark Thomas

Fri, 11 May 2007 12:21:05 +1200

ooh, grant. that's harsh

by comparison to the preening self obsessed glam rockers of the 80s/early90s, nirvana etc oozed credibility.

or are you talking about the people who rushed out to buy plaid flannel shirts?

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 12:13:30 +1200

Thank goodness you started breathing again, I wouldn't want that on my hands.

Grant McDougall

Fri, 11 May 2007 12:10:25 +1200

Shooting fish in a barrel I know, but emo and grunge are both crap.

Emo is just commercial punk dressed-up in goth clothes, while grunge was sheep-in-wolves clothing music – "alternative" music for people that would crap themselves if they ever heard anything truly adventurous.

Heather Gaye

Fri, 11 May 2007 12:07:33 +1200

..oh.

(stops holding breath)

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:49:24 +1200

Er, late starter methinks.

Heather Gaye

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:47:32 +1200

I was wearing them in 1992. Does that make me an early adopter?

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:45:15 +1200

Sadly, yes, my first pair 1974, my daughter's, 2007.

Mark Thomas

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:44:06 +1200

00s = ugg boots, apparently

Heather Gaye

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:39:58 +1200

I'll ummm fail to think of any more irritating earworm songs to quote here

Shit, I'm still humming smells like teen spirit.

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:29:03 +1200

Didn't Fallout Boy sing..."I believe in cats"?

Joanna

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:26:56 +1200

Damn you for putting Fall Out Boy in my head. Now in retaliation, I really would like to know who let the dogs out? And maaaaaaan, I really do feel like a woman, so if you don't tell my heart, my achey breaky heart, why does love do this to…

merc

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:21:20 +1200

Arthur Rimbaud, the first punk, hippy, rockstar, lover shooter, arms dealer, drop out, drug user, what-have-you.
And damn fine poet IMHO. Plus a little further research on the EMO sub-culture at schools in Auckland may have produced some interesting results, I have many tales.

John Farrell

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:13:04 +1200

You missed the only real "scene", man. The 60s – hippies, pot, lsd. The rest, all commercial constructs.

Mark Thomas

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:04:01 +1200

oh silly me

00s = muffin tops

Mark Thomas

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:02:23 +1200

meh. it's just pop music and fashion.

i have often wondered what the iconic retro thing would be for the 00's though.

70s=punk/disco
80s=mod/power dressing/glam rockers
90s=grunge and techno
00s= ??

Public Address

Fri, 11 May 2007 11:02:23 +1200

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