Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: The gathering of the small tribe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266421#post266421 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266421#post266421 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:44:36 +1200 David Chittenden https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266417#post266417 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266417#post266417 LIKE!

Good timing – and it made me laugh! :)

]]> Sun, 05 Aug 2012 06:24:46 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266366#post266366 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266366#post266366 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:09:11 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266353#post266353 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266353#post266353 Susan Sontag on writing.

To be a great writer:
know everything about adjectives and punctuation (rhythm)
have moral intelligence — which creates true authority in a writer

]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:33:43 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266352#post266352 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266352#post266352 SACHA- I DONT NEED TO. YOU DO.
ANYWAY, I WILL NOT RESPOND, EVER AGAIN, TO ANY POST BY YOU, EVER AGAIN.Byebye forever.

O look! The computer did it for me!
I didnt have to say “go away cretin” 0-this marvellous Apple thing made my message cps! Cool! Well, a lot…

]]> Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:15:24 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266350#post266350 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266350#post266350 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:54:02 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266349#post266349 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266349#post266349 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:47:01 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266348#post266348 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266348#post266348 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:32:03 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266347#post266347 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266347#post266347 I am very sure you are not involved in any livlihood way with the literary scene.
I have not made an attack, let alone a petty one – you really dont like being called out, do you Sacha?
My mana stands.
Your's – in my eyes (which also means a…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:05:56 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266337#post266337 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266337#post266337 You obviously did not realise that are several varieties of people who have books published

You've made some assumptions, and we know what they say about those. Don't diminish your mana with petty attacks.

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:46:27 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266336#post266336 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266336#post266336 I never thought you were, Lilith – but I get really pissed off with assumptions various people here make.

I take my literary stuff VERY seriously (it is – along with family, friends & fishing, literally my life.)

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:44:54 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266335#post266335 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266335#post266335 Mate – tuck yours under your arse.
I know my fields – you do not.
You obviously did not realise that are several varieties of people who have books published – and not all of them are writers.

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:41:00 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266334#post266334 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266334#post266334 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:40:16 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266333#post266333 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266333#post266333 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:26:15 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266332#post266332 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266332#post266332 As it should be.
You are not any part of the very strange literary community of ANZ – and you cant assume to make expert comment on grounds of your expertise in other fields.

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:21:16 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266331#post266331 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266331#post266331 Small tribe. ]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:11:21 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266330#post266330 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266330#post266330 I think you dont know

your dismissiveness is noted

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:09:48 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266322#post266322 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266322#post266322 Sacha – a lot of it is ghost-written (sports biographies etc.) and a lot of it is from overseas and a lot of it is celeb crap, compilations of jokes etc. – yep, there are a few ANZ writers involved, especially in the cooking/fishing/sporting /hunting genres.
What is the difference…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:30:49 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266320#post266320 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266320#post266320 et our book sales are amongst the highest in the world, aren't they?
And they are extremely heavily weighted towards overseas fiction and ANZ non-fiction.

And, I will reiterate, & thanks Chris W !- ANZers dont give a toss about writers (the number of people who wrote snide things about Margaret…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:22:18 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266319#post266319 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266319#post266319 ANZ non-fiction

by writers, one presumes

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:17:58 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266318#post266318 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266318#post266318 et our book sales are amongst the highest in the world, aren't they?
And they are extremely heavily weighted towards overseas fiction and ANZ non-fiction.

And, I will reiterate, & thanks Chris W !- ANZers dont give a toss about writers (the number of people who wrote snide things about Margaret…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:14:23 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266304#post266304 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266304#post266304 yet our book sales are amongst the highest in the world, aren't they?

Unfortunately buying and reading books is not the same is giving a toss about our writers. We can be a strange and self-contradictory people that way, us Aotearoans.

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:01:09 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266280#post266280 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266280#post266280 ANZers give f/a of a toss about writers et al

yet our book sales are amongst the highest in the world, aren't they?

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:23:24 +1200 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266278#post266278 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266278#post266278 Briefcase is a cracking read. How works of poetry do you know that feature a cross-examination about a thrown stapler? ]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:06:47 +1200 st ephen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266270#post266270 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266270#post266270 …a prominent ANZ author…

Surely the production (and consumption) of poetry and short stories involves a far tinier clique than the NZ Post Book Awards. Fair enough for not wanting to play the game – most scientists and sportspeople also hate endless rounds of grant applications and publicity – but…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:49:34 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266268#post266268 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266268#post266268 I reckon Islander’s got some valid points to make, as someone who actually is a prominent ANZ author, and while she may be a little heavy-handed in giving grief to Graham I think it is fair enough for her to voice her opinions.

It certainly is. I just thought her…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 09:38:50 +1200 Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266262#post266262 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266262#post266262 I reckon Islander's got some valid points to make, as someone who actually is a prominent ANZ author, and while she may be a little heavy-handed in giving grief to Graham I think it is fair enough for her to voice her opinions.

In reading the piece I got a…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:29:42 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266261#post266261 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266261#post266261 C)Graham – I find – what to me is a self-congratulatory tone of "o look here I am among my own folk and ent we doing good?" – fairly sickening.

I accept that you might have issues with people in the book trade, but that's not a reason to take…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 08:17:23 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266258#post266258 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266258#post266258 but the writers are our people and of considerable importance.

Frankly – not so.
ANZers give f/a of a toss about writers et al.
And cring-making comments (to writers like myself) by Graham just make us think – who is running this game? Not any of us- for any of…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 00:07:03 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266257#post266257 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266257#post266257 Stuff- the edit function ran out-

A) The NZSA used to be a proactive writers' group. It tied itself up with the CLL.
The result was a squander of money (anybody gone and tried out the Great NZ e-Books site? Fuck o dear.)

B) A large number of people, from…

]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 00:03:10 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266256#post266256 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266256#post266256 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 23:33:10 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266249#post266249 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266249#post266249 The NZ Post Book Awards are a celebration of ourselves and that “tribe” is growing in size and importance. They might not win bronze, silver or gold and thus command the front page of our newspapers or top the nightly news on television, but the writers are our people and… ]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:23:21 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266231#post266231 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266231#post266231 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:28:33 +1200 JacksonP https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266217#post266217 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266217#post266217 Sounds like a fun night. There seem to be a lot of photos floating around of the event too.

Here's one collection of photos on Flickr, including the winners with their books.

]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:40:17 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266216#post266216 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-gathering-of-the-small-tribe/?p=266216#post266216 Discussion from blog post.

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