Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: The Democracy-Free Zone https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273855#post273855 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273855#post273855 Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:44:11 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273848#post273848 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273848#post273848 unlike Ministries who seem, these day, to be far better at whitewashing than actually getting shit done.

And when subpar executives are pushed or otherwise jump, they walk away with a fancy golden handshake. Roger Estall and the Tourism NZ board come to mind, and Christine Rankin refused to go…

]]> Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:53:57 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273845#post273845 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273845#post273845 Hardly surprising for the cynical amongst us. One of the many pieces of Government propaganda touted as "interviews" with Ministers, or their minions, I have heard recently
was on the subject of Charter Schools. This little gem seemed to slip out "Well if a Charter School does not live up…

]]> Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:48:04 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273794#post273794 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273794#post273794 Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:43:29 +1300 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273792#post273792 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273792#post273792 Water Thieves.
It’s scary in many ways:- too many eggs in the milk-can basket; degradation of the alluvial water; short-term economic benefits to some, while others ahem, get zip, or less than zip, as the environment is degraded; and when the major droughts arrive, there’ll be enormous pressure to take…

]]> Mon, 29 Oct 2012 09:45:25 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273787#post273787 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=273787#post273787 Let's start this sucker up again...
Gimme those paddles...
Clear!

I feel soiled...
High plains grifters and the best democracy money can buy...
are sacred cows the reason for the ongoing government-commissariat at ECan?
The Government suspended democracy and restricted legal action in Canterbury to protect an agriculture boom potentially…

]]> Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:27:28 +1300 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270797#post270797 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270797#post270797 So that would make it a National Standard.

National standards by the few, for the many. That sounds like... wait for it.... COMMUNISM!!!

]]> Tue, 25 Sept 2012 13:49:57 +1200 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270762#post270762 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270762#post270762 great post from Political Scientist on what's happening to Chch schools- and how it fits the Govt's 'business plan' for NZ. ]]> Tue, 25 Sept 2012 10:38:49 +1200 Matthew Poole https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270582#post270582 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270582#post270582 From his past performance in attempting to silence Lianne Dalziel by releasing her personal information, it’s standard Brownlee modus operandi.

I think you mean standard 5th National Government modus operandi. So that would make it a National Standard.

]]> Mon, 24 Sept 2012 12:30:41 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270544#post270544 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270544#post270544 ..what would happen if all the children turned up to class and the teachers continued to teach in their schools as usual...

...maybe a 'management/staff' buyout
– instant community owned charter schools!
They'll sack the school board and appoint a commissioner, as happened in April when the far North [[http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/students-forced-find-new-school-after-classes-shut-down-4853536|Moerewa…

]]> Mon, 24 Sept 2012 08:50:00 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270541#post270541 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270541#post270541 More Democracy in action...
I hadn't fully realised the Draconian nature of the CCDU's envisioned Chchch CBD retail zone, The Press reports today that:
New quake recovery rules require retail developments to be planned in 7500-square-metre lots, which is about a third of a city block.
A landowner with a…

]]> Mon, 24 Sept 2012 07:46:41 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270539#post270539 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270539#post270539 Unchartered waters...
...what would happen if all the children turned up to class and the teachers continued to teach in their schools as usual...
...maybe a 'management/staff' buyout
– instant community owned charter schools!

]]> Mon, 24 Sept 2012 07:26:47 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270485#post270485 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270485#post270485 Sun, 23 Sept 2012 14:33:50 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270469#post270469 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270469#post270469 I don't think it's this...
Ayn Rand Movie Fails in Free Market (Despite Tea Party Hype) but I was amused...
The reviews of "Atlas Shrugged" have been merciless. And despite a major push by Tea Party networks, Ayn Rand's paean to ego-centrism has not drawn audiences.

]]> Sun, 23 Sept 2012 10:53:09 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270468#post270468 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270468#post270468 a plane towing a sign saying ‘Money is Good’ also posters about town… Did I also see a poster saying ‘Money is Bad’?
What is reality?

Some, well a few actually, have been sucked in up here too.
About 100 Aucklanders lured to Albert Park this morning with the…

]]> Sun, 23 Sept 2012 10:42:46 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270466#post270466 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270466#post270466 Yesterday I noticed what must be advance spin for either asset sales or an upcoming Ayn Rand movie – a plane towing a sign saying 'Money is Good' also posters about town... Did I also see a poster saying 'Money is Bad'?
What is reality?
A pertinent question for [[http://www.rotoruadailypost.co.nz/news/money-is-bad-troll/1553387/|those…

]]> Sun, 23 Sept 2012 09:51:55 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270461#post270461 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270461#post270461 Micrograve coven...
...a council in exile as such.
we even have a surfeit of blasted heaths
'pon which they could meet by starlight

...who believes not reading a document
means it’s contents do not exist
The pryme minster (from Hel in Lensville)
knows well the power of magic wave
and…

]]> Sun, 23 Sept 2012 09:02:03 +1200 Matthew Poole https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270459#post270459 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270459#post270459 So what if the election was held on the originally appointed date in 2013 and the people refused to accept the cancellation of their democracy and just went ahead.

At this point I will cry out for Graeme, but I suspect that the informal nature of the ballots (electoral officer…

]]> Sun, 23 Sept 2012 08:57:58 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270438#post270438 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270438#post270438 outside of the triennial cycle

So what if the election was held on the originally appointed date in 2013 and the people refused to accept the cancellation of their democracy and just went ahead. Where there's a will there is a loophole. Even if the Govt. refused to accept the…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 23:41:16 +1200 Matthew Poole https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270430#post270430 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270430#post270430 if the people of Christchurch went ahead and held an election anyway, would the Government refuse to recognise the authority?

Well, yes, they would, and not just because they're a bunch of self-important entitled jack-asses. They also have the benefit of local elections needing to be called by the local…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 22:04:37 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270405#post270405 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270405#post270405 David Carter and Amy Adams announced early this month that ECan elections would be delayed until 2016. That is despite promises, when democratically elected councillors were sacked in 2010, that elections would return in 2013. from Joe's link
So what if the people of Christchurch went ahead and…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 17:17:07 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270404#post270404 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270404#post270404 What if, in 2016, the sacked ECan councillors are voted back in? Will the Govt just boot them out again? And there's little to stop the Local Govt Minister from doing a Greater London Council job on Len Brown.The paddock will have been designed, sowed, and the fences reinforced by… ]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 16:55:11 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270400#post270400 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270400#post270400 Megan Woods addressing today's 3500 strong Save Our Schools rally in South Hagley Park. Nice to see the MP I voted for putting her head above the parapet and sounding like she meant it.

BTW Hekia Parata and Nicky Wagner were invited. Naturally they didn't attend.

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 15:26:12 +1200 Jarno van der Linden https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270398#post270398 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270398#post270398 What if, in 2016, the sacked ECan councillors are voted back in?
Nah, won't happen. The government is so full of praise for the efficiency of the government-appointed ECan council that I expect changes to the RMA to extend the model nationwide.

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 14:19:37 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270396#post270396 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270396#post270396 Great works Bronwyn and everyone on here.

My read is that though many of us are not protesting today, we share one overarching idea: We want our city back.

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 13:37:03 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270395#post270395 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270395#post270395 first. Should be read as widely as possible. Extremely relevant to the school changes as well. ]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 12:43:53 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270394#post270394 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270394#post270394 a democracy that allowed the population base of Christchurch to interfere in the lives of people who lived in North Otago a 180 kms away.

Regional councils do that.

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 12:42:28 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270393#post270393 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270393#post270393 What if, in 2016, the sacked ECan councillors are voted back in?

Look for the length of time that water rights can be granted for, before then. As part of the Auckland region law changes, some were extended to 35 years so Watercare's functions could be privatised for that length…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 12:41:13 +1200 Steve Withers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270392#post270392 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270392#post270392 Sat, 22 Sept 2012 12:40:26 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270389#post270389 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270389#post270389 What if, in 2016, the sacked ECan councillors are voted back in? Will the Govt just boot them out again? And there's little to stop the Local Govt Minister from doing a Greater London Council job on Len Brown.

I'm reminded of Thomas Fowler in Philip Noyce's version of __The…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 11:55:21 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270388#post270388 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270388#post270388 So, you didn't like what ECan was doing, and you're pleased they've been replaced with appointed commissioners?
I don't like what the current govt is doing, but I sure as hell wouldn't rather they were replaced with commissioners.
[Insofar as that hasn't already happened in Chch with Gerry and CERA…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 11:26:28 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270387#post270387 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270387#post270387 Sat, 22 Sept 2012 10:52:36 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270386#post270386 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270386#post270386 Of course everybody (at Public Address one presumes)) thought it was just great that Ecan (or as it was known further South Ecan't) was a democracy that allowed the population base of Christchurch to interfere in the lives of people who lived in North Otago a 180 kms away.
Attempted…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 10:34:59 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270385#post270385 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270385#post270385 As for the anti democratic dealing with Chch and its problems lets not forget that everybody over the age of 18 has a right to change the government every three years

Sorry that's silly. The people of Christchurch can only change the government in proportion to their population, which is…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 10:24:41 +1200 Raymond A Francis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270384#post270384 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270384#post270384 Sat, 22 Sept 2012 10:03:55 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270382#post270382 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270382#post270382 I die a little inside sometimes when I look at the comments on news websites from people bitching at say Lianne Dalziel, asking why she can’t be more supportive of the recovery effort and accusing her of just being out for herself.

Really? That's just ... weird.
In a more…

]]> Sat, 22 Sept 2012 09:20:50 +1200 Ana Simkiss https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270371#post270371 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270371#post270371 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 21:24:58 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270370#post270370 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270370#post270370 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 21:22:44 +1200 Euan Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270365#post270365 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270365#post270365 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 20:16:02 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270352#post270352 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270352#post270352 Exactly. The Press article Rob linked to above, The Business of NZ Inc, is an esential read about that.

In that thread, I invoked a term that has apparently fallen into disuse since Queensland's Sir Joh left office: white shoe brigade. Cronyism, iron-fistedness, nouveau riche crassness, loss of built heritage,…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 17:15:29 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270349#post270349 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270349#post270349 But this leadership most definitely believes the change should be managed for you and you do not need to be consulted.

On Maori water rights too. Good faith my arse.

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 16:51:58 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270348#post270348 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270348#post270348 It's not just CHCH. Everything this government does in centred around the idea that managers can do thigs better than anyone or everyone else.

Exactly. The Press article Rob linked to above, The Business of NZ Inc, is an esential read about that.

Pro-business changes in our local governance and…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 16:50:57 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270346#post270346 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270346#post270346 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 16:49:21 +1200 Bart Janssen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270343#post270343 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270343#post270343 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 16:38:05 +1200 Steve Withers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270342#post270342 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270342#post270342 Don't forget about ECAN. Democracy got a bullet between the eyes there, too. What does the government have against Christchurch?

National hasn't impressed me with the ease they kill off democracy to enable their business projects.

A copy of "Shock Doctrine" should be delivered to every home in the city.…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 16:31:41 +1200 Graham Dunster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270341#post270341 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270341#post270341 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 16:25:58 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270328#post270328 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270328#post270328 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 15:21:26 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270327#post270327 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270327#post270327 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 15:20:55 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270323#post270323 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270323#post270323 I die a little inside sometimes when I look at the comments on news websites from people bitching at say Lianne Dalziel, asking why she can’t be more supportive of the recovery effort and accusing her of just being out for herself.

Really? That's just ... weird.

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 15:05:33 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270322#post270322 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270322#post270322 I wouldn’t. They were let down by those who didn’t provide a viable alternative to make the trip to the polling booth attractive enough.

In the case of Christchurch, I don't think it's quite that simple.

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 15:04:14 +1200 Stephen Judd https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270321#post270321 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270321#post270321 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 15:01:09 +1200 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270312#post270312 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270312#post270312 Great work Browyn :-)
And The Press has been surprisingly good. I found this article "The Business of NZ Inc" nicely tied the govt's guiding inclinations to what they've been doing- and trying to do- in Chch- before and after the quakes.
Many people genuinely support the NZ Inc approach,…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 14:16:05 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270311#post270311 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270311#post270311 I’d like to yell at all the people who didn’t vote in the last election

I wouldn't. They were let down by those who didn't provide a viable alternative to make the trip to the polling booth attractive enough.

Good to see more organised resistance emerging in Chritchurch. I reckon…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 13:45:03 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270308#post270308 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270308#post270308 Can you blame them for being cocky?

Blame them for being cocky, no. Blame them for abusing due process and taking away more of our rights, yes.

I know we’re on the same side here Sacha. I’d like to yell at all the people who didn’t vote in the last…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 13:26:21 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270306#post270306 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270306#post270306 This government had already taken ECan's democracy away in their first term – to say nothing of the Auckland region changes. The implications of the CERA legislation were also pretty clear when introduced.

Yet in the face of disorganised and ineffectual opposition they were re-elected, and even took Christchurch Central…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 13:14:54 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270304#post270304 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270304#post270304 that's who our nation and Canterbury's voters have elected.

We didn't elect them to take our democracy away, though. You can't get a mandate for that!

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 13:07:35 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270302#post270302 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270302#post270302 Chris Barton has a detailed article on the huge cbd land grab that reveals what's driving the profound loss of democracy in Christchurch, just as agribusiness access to irrigation resources is behind the overthrow of ECan.

Unskilled leaders fail to reconcile business interests with public accountability. Yet that's who our nation…

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 13:04:29 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270298#post270298 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270298#post270298 Fri, 21 Sept 2012 12:58:50 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270297#post270297 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-the-democracy-free-zone/?p=270297#post270297 Discussion from blog post.

]]> Fri, 21 Sept 2012 12:58:50 +1200