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				<title>UBONG EDET</title>
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						You are very right. I have witness this firsthand, speed is directly proportional to the impact of any accident, this is why we in the <a href="https://hsewatch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Health and Safety</a> profession preach on always going on a <a href="https://hsewatch.com/speed/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SAFE SPEED</a>; i.e Speed you can always manage. Always drive safe and make [[https://hsewatch.com/health-safety-and-environment-hse/|Health and…
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<a href="https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/stricter-speed-enforcement-can-impair-driver-safety" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">New research from The University of Western Australia</a> has found strictly enforced speed limits could have a detrimental impact on road safety.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2016 11:22:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>The new motorways constructed in Auckland with hard dividers are equal in standard to any high-speed roadway in the world.</q></p><p>That's a pretty big call. There are definitely some high quality stretches of motorway, but I was pretty much talking about highways. Why bother with super high speed motorways? If…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 23:42:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>The wide medians on the former are, I think, safer in an accident than a physical barrier</q></p><p>Hard dividers are used on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Autobahn</a>, that most iconic of high-speed roads. They have buffer space between some installations, but that's more to allow for deflection I suspect since the barriers are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 21:46:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Matthew is right &ndash; SH1 south of Drury and north of Albany are as low-risk as any road globally. (The wide medians on the former are, I think, safer in an accident than a physical barrier). I'd also argue that a lot of rural roads have a low risk of…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 15:00:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>On a really, really good road, a speed over 100km/h could be justified. We just don’t have any roads like that.</q></p><p>Bollocks we don’t. The new motorways constructed in Auckland with hard dividers are equal in standard to any high-speed roadway in the world. Pretty much all the Auckland motorway…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 14:27:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>but it’d be an easy way to lose an election for any party proposing it, so it’s not going to happen.</q></p><p>I don't know about that. A lot of people want speed limits dropped, at least in their area.</p><p><q>Having said that, many local back roads are down to 80k…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 09:42:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>So they raised the limit to 120k, from 100. After a year, they had less accidents, less injuries of all types, about the same serious injuries, and a few more deaths.</q></p><p>So.... people generally drove more safely and had fewer problems, but when things did go wrong they went much…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 00:16:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						On the discussion of how speed works, there was an Experiment in Victoria, Oz when I was kid there (early 80's), where they figured a lot of people were crashing on the main freeway north of Melbourne (Hume Highway) because the road was too bloody easy to drive on (design…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 23:25:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						I can't speak for Germany or the UK, but in the USA higher speed limits are generally only found on highways, with several lanes and divided. Around rural areas the speed limit, in my experience, is 35, 50, or 55 miles per hour. State Highway 1 in the lower South…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 16:34:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>That said, I’m not suggesting that drivers should be less vigilant.</q></p><p>Totally. Therein is the point here. Of course making the roads better will do the lion's share of the work in bringing down road tolls. But that's not something that people making ads have any influence over, and it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 09:56:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Rushin' Roulette...</strong><br /><q>It gives you back time. </q><br />I thought all our devices were supposed to do that, <br />so we could then plan to leave earlier on more sedate trips...</p><p>Roads with lots of people on them 'saving time' <br />by going faster get congested and dangerous too...</p><p>:- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 08:50:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>And realistically speaking, what does that extra speed really get?</q></p><p>It gives you back time. Which is why we build motorways. I can remember when the trip to Whangarei hit suburban roads and horribly dangerous winding highways, at around Albany. The alternate route is still there, and I travelled it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 07:58:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Hi Chris,</p><p><q>Which should not be taken as some mad Luddite rant. </q></p><p>None taken &ndash; this is something everyone will have a view on.</p><p>My experience is that there are many situations where the existing 50km/h &ndash; 100km/h limits are unnecessarily low.  I know there are situations where they are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 01:47:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<q>My view is that we should use technology and good design to increase the speeds at which traffic can safely travel on New Zealand’s motorways, arterial routes and other non-residential roads. I would like to see New Zealand’s speed limits increased to reverse the effect of the reduction of the…</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 00:12:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Firstly, I would like to congratulate NZTA on its effective and well made advertisement &ndash; it really is excellent.</p><p>You've asked about the challenges I've experienced around driving at safe speeds.  My view is that we should use technology and good design to increase the speeds at which traffic can…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 23:37:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>richard</title>
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						<p><q>In terms of released energy, yes, it’s four times as bad thanks to the “squared” in the theory of relativity.</q></p><p>Umm?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 23:16:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>But I don’t think being 8km/h above the speed limit is actually the point of the ad.</q></p><p>If it's not the point, why show it?  It's an easy and understandable conclusion to jump to that this would fit the prevailing contextual pattern of focussing on speed as the prime problem.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 20:31:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>’m utterly astounded by the comments of (seemingly intelligent and otherwise rational) people here that speed doesn’t matter.</q></p><p>Of course it matters.  But focussing on speed <em>to the absolute exclusion of all other factors that the driver can control</em> is counter-productive.  I can only recall <em>one</em> ad off the top…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 20:28:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>In this advert it doesn’t. The reality portrayed in this advert would not be altered by the through driver doing the speed limit instead of 8% above it.</q></p><p>But I don’t think being 8km/h above the speed limit is <em>actually the point of the ad</em>. It’s that the through-driver is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 14:16:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>“the more serious the crash, the more likely it is that speed was a contributing factor.”</q></p><p>But not at 108 in a 100. More like 108 in a 50. Or 150 in a 50. I struggle to recall a single fatal crash I went to (motor vehicle vs motor vehicle…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 13:54:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Experience counts for a great deal, and people become naturally far more defensive as they get older. This is nearly indisputable from the actual crash statistics.</q></p><p><a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/nz-social-indicators/Home/Individual%20safety%20and%20security/m-v-casualties.aspx#info22" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The statistics also show</a> that younger drivers are getting a lot safer. That's that demanding testing showing up, the testing of which you are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 13:40:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> why high performance cars</q></p><p>So we drive a slightly bigger car, which can go faster quicker. Sometimes it's fun to put your foot down and feel the acceleration (from 0 to 40 kph only!). But fun was NOT the reason we purchased it. The reason was that at that time…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 13:27:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I’m utterly astounded by the comments of (seemingly intelligent and otherwise rational) people here that speed doesn’t matter.</q></p><p><em>In this advert</em> it doesn't. The reality portrayed <em>in this advert</em> would not be altered by the through driver doing the speed limit instead of 8% above it.<br />We can inject all…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 13:20:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> If they’re over 50 and got their licence as a teenager they may as well have got their licence out of a Cornflakes packet for all the rigour of the assessment.</q></p><p>We've been over this before, and the numbers <em>really</em> don't back up what you're saying here. Most of accidents,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 11:59:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Henry Barnard</title>
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						<p><q>personally I think we should all have Morris Minors that we can work on and drive sedately in…</q></p><p>In India, it is the Morris Oxford of 1957 that continues to be produced, with an immense local knowledge by the roadside on how to fix things when things go wrong.  But…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I totally agree that speed is a big contributor, but I'm not so sure about the conclusion that more advertising is going to change this significantly. But we certainly should do it, just to find out if it will work. It would be very hard to be sure, but we're…
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>personally I think we should all have Morris Minors that we can work on and drive sedately in…<br />…what’s the rush?<br /></q><br />A nice modern safe quiet electric/hybrid vehicle for me, please.</p><p>Speed limiters would be useful. You get to 105km/h, and the vehicle starts playing soothing music, pulls over, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 11:44:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Given this clear cut ignoring of evidence, I don't know how you could shift this from his dna.</q><br />I've never understood why high performance cars were allowed to be 'commuter vehicles' &ndash; cars advertising '0-120mph in bugger all time' and such like, seems  a crass oversupply of potential &ndash; when…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 11:29:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew C</title>
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						<p><q>significant misperceptions among male drivers who consider themselves above average in skill and competence.</q></p><p>I've got a good friend who's had 8 car dings/crashes/incidents.  And he still considers himself to be one of the better drivers he knows, often attempting to commandeer the driving wherever possible.  8!  Given this clear…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 11:06:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>I'm utterly astounded by the comments of (seemingly intelligent and otherwise rational) people here that speed doesn't matter.I won't repeat the arguments I've made, because they were clear enough in the first place. </p><p>It's clear that more advertising over a long period of time will be needed to correct significant…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 10:52:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Could he be meaning the one where the kids are in the parked car mimicing their dads driving stoned?</q></p><p>The one made by the prominent Māori film-maker in partnership with Māori Television?</p><p>Nah, Rich meant “ghost chips” and he's entitled to a view on it, but I'm glad he eventually…</p>
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				<title>Andrew C</title>
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						<p><q>    Are you going to be running one of those “funny” racist ads next with the drunk Māori dude talking in the silly voice?</p><p>I’m completely puzzled by that reading of it</q></p><p>Could he be meaning the one where the kids are in the parked car mimicing their dads driving stoned?…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<q>There is one key assumption in that … that is both cars are identical … however most accidents occur between non-identical cars … in those cases you are significantly better off in the heavier car and with a better crumple zone. In accidents where one car significantly outweighs the other…</q>
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				<title>Andrew C</title>
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						<p><q>And rather different roads, too.</q></p><p>A friend of mine at university was a foreign student from Germany.  He told me about how soon after he arrived he had driven to the mountain for skiing and was super pissed off that he couldn't find how to get on the motorway and…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>    but two identical cars hitting each other head on at identical speeds will only release twice as much as one hitting a wall at the same speed.</p><p>And that energy is spread over twice the material (ie 2 cars as opposed to 1), so from a car’s occupant’s perspective, a…</q></p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>remember when the Harbour Bridge had no barrier down the center? There were fatal crashes every week, it seemed</q></p><p>You wouldn't be far wrong. In the early-mid 1980s, when all the Auckland motorways were undivided, the Fire Service's rescue tender at Manukau City fire station was the busiest fire appliance…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Well, I’ll admit to not listening to all the words until I played it back just now, and there is a difference between the narrative message and the surface impression.</q></p><p>I little surprised that you were prepared to publicly deem it “racist” without having listened to it.</p><p><q>Would I like…</q></p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I though the message was more that being in the right wasn’t a protection.</q></p><p>So have the guy doing under the posted limit! Because bringing in his over-the-limit speed means he's no longer "in the right". Now he's just a bad, speeding driver who's about to kill some innocent kid…</p>
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						<q> __Indeed, personally, I begin slowing down automatically that I even see a car at all in that exact situation, just on the presumption that they might pull out for whatever reason. I have my eye pretty much fixed on that car as the most likely danger, and my foot is…</q>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><a href="http://youtu.be/uV5o_-UADiY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://youtu.be/uV5o_-UADiY</a></p><p>For purposes of comparison, here's NZTA's last speed-themed ad, 'Flying Objects'.</p><p><q>This campaign targets everyday drivers and their passengers. Not the speedsters or hoons who recklessly drive at excessive speeds, but the people whose vehicle speed tends to creep above the limit at a level where they still consider…</q></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>It’s surprising how boring going 240km/h can get</q><br />aaah! So that's why my late mum's old 1996 Mazda has a speedometer that goes up to 240km!<br />It always feels like you are crawling along when you look at the speedo, all that unreached velocity...</p>
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						<p>A contributor to driving behaviour could be the low financial threshold of access to a motor vehicle in the first place.<br /> I just did some numbers for an 18 year old with a new license, insuring a 10 year old Japanese import with 150hp in Germany<br />Insurance &ndash;  3rd party…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<q>To be honest, watching it, when I see the other car from the perspective of the speeding guy, my own instinct is that he’d be able to stop in time, even at 108km/h. You don’t have to wait until the road is fully obstructed by the other car before you…</q>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>The problem wasn't so much his speed but his attitude, exemplified by chewing out the old chap whom he had just cut down from behind!</q></p><p>And it's not a new issue either.</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZAZ_xu0DCg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZAZ_xu0DCg</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 00:40:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>It's surprising how boring going 240km/h can get on a really good road.</q></p><p>It's also surprising how such roads can lull you into a false sense of security. Two summers back driving out to Beidaihe and back I had to really careful because we were travelling along the Beijing-Harbin Expressway.…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I wish the ad every success in fostering that attitude.</q></p><p>Yeah, me too. It might help a bit. Better roads clearly would (remember when the Harbour Bridge had no barrier down the center? There were fatal crashes every week, it seemed). Enforcing lower speed limits? Probably helped significantly too.  I…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>blind date...</strong><br /><q>middle-aged drunk-driving</q></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLDve40cxlk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLDve40cxlk</a></p><p>wash out for tha innerselection coming, urp.!</p>
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						<p><q>And rather different roads, too.</q></p><p>Here's a breakdown for 2012 fatalities from Statistics Germany by transport mode (car, 2 wheeled motorised, bike, pedestrian) and road type (open road, motorway, town.<br />Anything comparable from Stats NZ?</p>
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						And still travelling in excess of 30 km/h. It's not a light tap...
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				<title>Martin Roberts</title>
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						<q>Indeed, personally, I begin slowing down automatically that I even see a car at all in that exact situation, just on the presumption that they might pull out for whatever reason. I have my eye pretty much fixed on that car as the most likely danger, and my foot is…</q>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>There aren’t many ads aimed at middle aged men driving home drunk from the golf club in their Holden V8 / BMWs, are there?</em></p><p>What about the one about the guy constantly speeding driving his family to the holiday house, and when his son eventually starts driving the same route…</q></p>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>There aren’t many ads aimed at middle aged men driving home drunk from the golf club in their Holden V8 / BMWs, are there?</q></p><p>What about the one about the guy constantly speeding driving his family to the holiday house, and when his son eventually starts driving the same route…</p>
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>middle aged men</p></blockquote><p>Ah, the speeding demographic. Perhaps NZTA could comment, but isn’t middle-aged drunk-driving on the wane due to the supposed success of efforts to make DUI socially unacceptable? Whereas the older male driver is still more likely to maintain “I’m in control, don’t tell me what speed is…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>I’m completely puzzled by that reading of it</q></p><p>Well, I'll admit to not listening to all the words until I played it back just now, and there is a difference between the narrative message and the surface impression.</p><p>Would I like such an ad being pointed at my ethnic class…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I can’t follow your argument there. A mean can drop, without variation dropping. </p><p>That said, of course it’s not the only factor. It’s pretty hard to be sure which factors are the most significant in this country. </p><p><q>Watch the ad.</q></p><p>To be honest, watching it, when I see the other…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>So, this post is sponsored by the NZTA. Does this mean our speeding tickets are indirectly feeding Russell and his clan?</q></p><p>'Fraid not! The money goes into the Consolidated Fund.</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>Never had a speeding ticket.  Only ever had one at fault accident, when as a very new driver, I quietly reversed into another car at the supermarket.</p><p>But... I know that I often make mistakes, and I'm just lucky that they've never ended up seriously.  I try to be a…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p>Which brings up a good point, are NZTA getting their money's worth? How many of y'all have had a speeding ticket or significant crash recently? </p><p>My last speeding ticket was about 14 years back, and my last crash (which was my fault, but not speed related) further back than that.…</p>
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						<p><q>So, this post is sponsored by the NZTA. Does this mean our speeding tickets are indirectly feeding Russell and his clan?</q></p><p>I hope so. It would be nice to think that voluntary taxation was going to a good home. ... but let's not get too political.</p><p>One day I hope…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						So, this post is sponsored by the NZTA. Does this mean our speeding tickets are indirectly feeding Russell and his clan?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And I’m interested in Rich of Observationz’ race/class reading of the Ghost chips ad.</p><p><em>Are you going to be running one of those “funny” racist ads next with the drunk Māori dude talking in the silly voice?</em></q></p><p>I’m completely puzzled by that reading of it, if he was actually talking…</p>
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						<p>And I'm interested in Rich of Observationz' race/class reading of the Ghost chips ad.<br /><q>Are you going to be running one of those “funny” racist ads next with the drunk Māori dude talking in the silly voice?</q></p>
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						<q>In far too many cases, the news report of an entirely preventable crash has a description like “the car left the road and hit a power pole” … as though the car had some sort of independent agency, and the driver was a mere uninvolved spectator in the proceedings. It…</q>
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						<p>Not reading high is a functional requirement of various vehicle certification authorities, so speedometers read low by design (as they will always have an error budget).</p><p>Also, some GPS receivers use <a href="http://nujournal.net/SDOP.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">doppler measurements</a> for speed, which doesn't suffer from sampling artefacts as you turn corners.</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>Modern car’s speedos seem to read about 8% lower than the car’s actual speed.</q></p><p>I hadn’t realised how widespread this was until I drove around with a SatNav for a few weeks in the UK, and it displayed the actual speed compared with the speed limit for the section of…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-sponsored-post-speed-and-safety/?p=312449#post312449</link>
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						<p><q>why the Ford Nucleon never made it into production</q><br />Then there is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_DMC-12#Back_to_the_Future" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">that DeLorean</a><br />Run, DMC, Run...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:30:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						When a collision takes place the kinetic energy gets divided up among the car/car car/wall in some potentially complicated but important fashion. When a car hits a wall we don't much care what happens to the wall. It is like how much difference the stopping distance makes depends on how…
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>Is that 50 according to your speedo, or 50 as measured correctly ? </q></p><p>I don't know. Those fancy roadside displays that tell you what your speed is and my speedo agree very well, though.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:25:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>I usually drive dead on 50 kph.</q></p><p>Is that 50 according to your speedo, or 50 as measured correctly ?  Modern car's speedos seem to read about 8% lower than the car's actual speed.  This has probably been the main contributor to the lowering of average speeds.  However, a lot…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:21:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Clarke</title>
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						I've never quite figured out the NZ obsession with speed being classed as the primary killer on the roads, when that's only true in the absolute sense &ndash; casualties can only be guaranteed drop to zero only if the speed drops to zero, which rather defeats the purpose of NZTA…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:18:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						Quite true.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:07:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>but two identical cars hitting each other head on at identical speeds will only release twice as much as one hitting a wall at the same speed.</q></p><p>And that energy is spread over twice the material (ie 2 cars as opposed to 1), so from a car's occupant's perspective, a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:06:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-sponsored-post-speed-and-safety/?p=312438#post312438</link>
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						<p><q>I’ve never thought of the CF Bedford <br />in <em>quite</em> that way …</q><br />...to be honest I never thought it in the CF Bedford, that was one solid beast, it was in the later Nissan(?) Vanette &ndash; which felt about as safe as an aluminium takeaway container &ndash; that those thoughts…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 14:05:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						You can see why the <a href="http://www.damninteresting.com/the-atomic-automobile/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ford Nucleon</a> never made it into production?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:59:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Let’s take a look at that using physics.</p><p>All else being equal, stopping distance at 100km/h = 49.2m, while stopping distance at 108km/h = 57.4m</p><p>8.2 metres is actually quite a long way into another person’s car.</q></p><p>Yes, but human reaction times are not instant. The through car is so…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:58:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>And rather different roads, too</q></p><p>Actually, not so much,</p><p>The UK has no unsealed roads, but a lot of <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Sunken_lane_near_Roke_Manor_-_geograph.org.uk_-_425931.jpg/180px-Sunken_lane_near_Roke_Manor_-_geograph.org.uk_-_425931.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">one lane roads</a>, sunken in a ditch and with mud all over the surface </p><p>All three countries have modern motorways, but also many secondary roads just like ours and many urban…</p>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						In the relativistic case, the entire mass of the car would be instantly converted to energy at the rate of mc^2, which for a 1.5 tonne car would be an explosion equivalent to several gigatons of TNT. That would be one incentive to drive safely.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:55:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lambert</title>
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						That extra 15% of energy may well be the reason you die....every tissue in the human body has a breaking point! Whilst everyone's tissue is different, a 15% difference  in energy in a motor vehicle impact may be the difference between tissue injury and tissue failure resulting in fatality.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:51:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>Not four times as bad? Or some other even higher number? I’d have thought driving/crashing at 100km/h was much more dangerous than driving/crashing at 50km/h.</q></p><p><q>In terms of released energy, yes, it’s four times as bad thanks to the “squared” in the theory of relativity.</q></p><p>*cough* Not quite &ndash; it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:50:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>8.2 metres is actually quite a long way into another person's car.</q></p><p>Roughly two car lengths into another person's car?</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>We’ve scrubbed off about 5km/h over the last decade, and that has saved a lot of lives.</q></p><p>Over the last decade the vehicle fleet has got safer and many of the worst roads have been improved. The annual road toll at Pukerua Bay has dwindled to somewhere around zero instead…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:43:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Wood</title>
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						<p><q>Yes, but the difference between 100km/h and 108km/h is negligible.</q></p><p>Let's take a look at that using <a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/crstp.html#c2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">physics</a>.</p><p>All else being equal, stopping distance at 100km/h = 49.2m, while stopping distance at 108km/h = 57.4m</p><p>8.2 metres is actually quite a long way into another person's car.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:41:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>by halting time so the protagonists can reflect on their respective follies and what they are about to reap.</q></p><p>A message that might be less-controversially got across by having the through driver do something that does not carry connotations of blatant fault and risk-taking, like looking down to change the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:38:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-sponsored-post-speed-and-safety/?p=312421#post312421</link>
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						<p><q>I always remember that monthly trip back from Warkworth with a van full of Rip It Ups (fresh of the press) and that fear of the sudden transition from being a ‘well engineered machine smoothly eating up the miles’</q></p><p>You know, I've never thought of the CF Bedford in <em>quite</em>…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:38:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>That message is not that the person driving faster is a bad and reckless person, or that the father is blameless and in the right. It's simply that accidents are more likely at speed, and when they occur the consequences are worse.</q></p><p>As Matthew has just said I think the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:36:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>Coupled with the new car/ute/SUV front design which seems higher and blunter these days, no more ‘cow-catching’ of struck pedestrians and sweeping them over the bonnet, it seems…</q></p><p>Cars sold in the EU have had pedestrian impact standards as part of their safety testing since the early 2000s, and I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:33:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...to a pedestrian hit by a car, which is fairly literally the difference between life and death.</q></p><p>Coupled with the new car/ute/SUV front design which seems higher and blunter these days, no more 'cow-catching' of struck pedestrians and sweeping them over the bonnet, it seems...</p><p>I always remember that monthly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:25:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						From a media-crit perspective, the "Mistakes" ad is very interesting. At the time of writing, it's closing in on nine million YouTube plays since January &mdash; compared to "Ghost Chips", which was more part of the vernacular, but has managed only two million in two years. That's largely down to…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:18:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<q>I saw a good example of a fix on the main road to the West Coast last weekend – at one intersection in the middle of a long open road straight, a 70km speed limit sign well in advance of the intersection, is triggered on when a car stops at…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:17:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Open road speeds are decreasing over time. We've scrubbed off about 5km/h over the last decade, and that has saved a lot of lives.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:15:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>show me a sign, and lo...</strong><br /><q>Fixing offending black spots doesn't have to cost a mint. </q><br />I saw a good example of a fix on the main road to the West Coast last weekend &ndash; at one intersection in the middle of a long open road straight, a 70km speed…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>For an increase of 8km/h, there is about a 15% increase in energy in the collision, IIRC.</q></p><p>Yes, but the difference between 100km/h and 108km/h is negligible. You're not suddenly going to die because of that extra 15%. It's not the difference between 40km/h and 50km/h to a pedestrian hit…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>That message is not that the person driving faster is a bad and reckless person, or that the father is blameless and in the right. It’s simply that accidents are more likely at speed, and when they occur the consequences are worse.</q></p><p>In which case, put the speedo on 100km/h.…</p>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q> And if you hit another car that’s moving, the impact speed may be doubled meaning the outcome will be twice as bad.</q><br /><q>Not four times as bad? Or some other even higher number?  I’d have thought driving/crashing at 100km/h was much more dangerous than driving/crashing at 50km/h.</q></p><p>Yes this is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 12:58:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<q>I can’t help thinking that this campaign will have the effect of shifting the onus or blame towards an innocent party. Sure, in the clip above, the driver on the straight is breaking the speed limit at 108km/h, but that would still not likely have earned him a speeding ticket…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 12:55:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The primary responsibility is with the driver on the Give Way. The driver on the Give Way should not expect any other driver to allow for his errors at all.</q></p><p>Which is exactly the thinking the ad is getting at. Whoever bears "primary responsibility", there's going to be a bloody…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 12:53:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Road safety campaigns in their current form seem to be missing the point, so long as better idiots keep being built.</p><p>Fixing offending black spots doesn't have to cost a mint. Unfortunately, those in charge of the transport funds seem more interested in empire building. Case in point: the contrast…</p>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>And if you hit another car that’s moving, the impact speed may be doubled meaning the outcome will be twice as bad.</q></p><p>This is false.  Two cars hitting head on is the same for the car occupants, as a single car hitting an large stationary object.  Assuming both cars are…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Not four times as bad? Or some other even higher number? I’d have thought driving/crashing at 100km/h was much more dangerous than driving/crashing at 50km/h.</q></p><p>In terms of released energy, yes, it’s four times as bad thanks to the “squared” in the theory of relativity.<br />In terms of actual outcomes,…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q> tradesmen in utes and vans</q></p><p>Tradesmen are the worst. Courier drivers are either really bad or pretty decent when you're cycling, in my experience.</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>It's an incredible ad.</p><p>I'd like to see more of a focus on overtakers. I identify (more or less) with the man in the white shirt; I do a reasonable amount of driving around the Lower North Island for work. I try and stay close to the limit, or a…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>And if you hit another car that’s moving, the impact speed may be doubled meaning the outcome will be twice as bad.</q></p><p>Not four times as bad? Or some other even higher number? I'd have thought driving/crashing at 100km/h was much more dangerous than driving/crashing at 50km/h.</p>
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				<title>Allan MacLachlan</title>
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						I can't help thinking that this campaign will have the effect of shifting the onus or blame towards an innocent party.  Sure, in the clip above, the driver on the straight is breaking the speed limit at 108km/h, but that would still not likely have earned him a speeding ticket…
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q>a bunch of substitution activity that's less likely to get them a ticket &ndash; wheel spins, dangerous overtaking, bad lane discipline, general aggression and lack of consideration for others. </q></p><p>I see this all the time. As a regular cyclist, it's freaky how people voom up to T junctions and stop…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>NZ has a higher accident rate than many places with higher (and more leniently enforced) speed limits, like Germany, the US or the UK.</q></p><p>And rather different roads, too.</p><p><q>Then there is the factor that many drivers want to drive in an exuberant/stupid fashion, but know that speeding will likely…</q></p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>NZ has a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">higher accident rate</a> than many places with higher (and more leniently enforced) speed limits, like Germany, the US or the UK.</p><p>Driving a car, especially outside a city, does not, I am afraid, generally occupy or get a driver's full attention. They have radio, passengers, scenery and…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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