Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Selling the Dream: The Art of Early New Zealand Tourism https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=339765#post339765 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=339765#post339765 Mon, 04 May 2015 00:01:58 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=339762#post339762 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=339762#post339762 http://vimeo.com/114574856 ]]> Sun, 03 May 2015 18:19:27 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=339760#post339760 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=339760#post339760 Greg and I were both very happy to find the Selling The Dream exhibition at the Canterbury Museum this afternoon. Marvellous! So many fine works.

Sat and watched some of the documentary with the man who printed the stunning New Zealand wildflowers work saying that that was the highlight of…

]]> Sun, 03 May 2015 17:24:25 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=290496#post290496 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=290496#post290496 Really good to see Selling the Dream is a finalist in the NZ Post Book Awards. It can also be voted for in the People's Choice section.

Peter's next book, with Gary Stewart, is Promoting Prosperity. I'll be runn a guest post from Peter about that next week.

]]> Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:06:22 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268145#post268145 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268145#post268145 – and the earlier station, with steam trains-

Found some lovely shots of that here. How handsome it was.

Demolition video from the Press if anybody needs to see it.

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:37:29 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268144#post268144 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268144#post268144 I will need to sell a couple of posters soon to recaibrate my collecting post the book . . .
Thanks Peter, it'd be a great honour, but given my past luck with retaining stuff I'd best defer to those with proven curatorial talents. What an opportunity though for such…

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:28:48 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268141#post268141 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268141#post268141 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:22:34 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268136#post268136 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268136#post268136 On the subject of railways, today about half the Chch Railway Station building is gone. The clock tower presents only empty sockets. Huge diggers are busily turning it into rubble.

I think sadly of the NZR ticket hall, with that lovely floor, vast as several ballrooms.

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:06:32 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268135#post268135 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268135#post268135 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:05:32 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268133#post268133 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268133#post268133 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:57:22 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268131#post268131 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268131#post268131 this lovely example. A bit poignant in the circumstances, but what a jewel. ]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:30:15 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268129#post268129 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268129#post268129 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:20:28 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268113#post268113 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268113#post268113 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:30:05 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268092#post268092 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268092#post268092 to hold your first book is a pretty cool feeling.

My first is my only thus far, but yeah, I remember the feeling. It's magic.

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:38:45 +1200 JacksonP https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268085#post268085 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268085#post268085 but to hold your first book is a pretty cool feeling

Congratulations. I have pre-ordered one, so can't wait to hold it in my hand also. You doing any show and tell days in Auckland? Might come and get your squiggle on it.

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:30:36 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268061#post268061 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268061#post268061 to hold your first book is a pretty cool feeling

Onya

+1

And me. Congratulations, Peter! :-)

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:07:13 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268043#post268043 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268043#post268043 to hold your first book is a pretty cool feeling

Onya
+1

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:28:19 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268021#post268021 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268021#post268021 but to hold your first book is a pretty cool feeling.

I can still feel the joy of picking up the first copies of "The Silences Between (Moeraki Conversations)" way back in 1983 at the Franz Josef post office- whoa! my first book!

Cant ever happen again but was bloody…

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:25:09 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268018#post268018 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268018#post268018 to hold your first book is a pretty cool feeling

Onya

]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:51:42 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268017#post268017 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=268017#post268017 Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:48:16 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267871#post267871 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267871#post267871 That Patsy Kane strip is a bit of a treat, eh. Rather risqué for its time and, artistically, far superior to the average seaside postcards of half-clad young women?
I reckon Gore was inspired by the British strip Jane. It was still going in the Daily Mirror in the 1950s.…

]]> Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:27:28 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267863#post267863 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267863#post267863 donned my own hat (made in NZ from possum fur!)’ to rapturous applause. I

There was once a tiny local industry in S. Westland making Davy Crockett hats from trapped possums...didnt last long, but did exist.

Curse the anti-fur idiots who killed the ANZ possum fur trade! Yeah, they had…

]]> Sun, 19 Aug 2012 17:07:24 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267855#post267855 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267855#post267855 That Patsy Kane strip is a bit of a treat, eh. Rather risqué for its time and, artistically, far superior to the average seaside postcards of half-clad young women?

I used a strip from September 1956 by Gore, where he was promoting the cause of Gustave von Tempsky as a…

]]> Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:30:47 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267847#post267847 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267847#post267847 do you know much about Ross Gore, who did the "It Happened In New Zealand" strip in NZ newspapers in the 1950s?
Geoff I know nothing at all about Ross Gore, apart from "It Happened in New Zealand" being the weekly highlight of the Evening Post in my childhood. With…

]]> Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:44:46 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267846#post267846 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267846#post267846 i had my detail wrinked

like

]]> Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:23:02 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267845#post267845 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267845#post267845 Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:21:50 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267797#post267797 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267797#post267797 Geoff, my comment was in response to Peter's upthread, which your post alerted me to:
The cover image of the book is a good example of this, 1941 we think, part of a series of indigenous women done by Pat Lawlor in the US for Pan American.
Again, the book…

]]> Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:20:17 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267796#post267796 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267796#post267796 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:17:52 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267795#post267795 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267795#post267795 a solution to your short-term need. ]]> Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:17:46 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267792#post267792 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267792#post267792 Blame my befuddlement on a bout of flu. The Pat Lawlor I was referring to was the Wellington journalist/writer.

Another round of befuddlement: I was just cursing myself for missing Media 3 this morning, Then I remembered that we don't have a TV since we were burgled on Monday afternoon…

]]> Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:10:29 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267789#post267789 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267789#post267789 Pat Lawlor rings a bell: a couple of summers ago I picked up a tiny volume of Victorian verse, in Oamaru. Had his bookplate in it,
A nice find. Unless there were two Pat Lawlors from that era though, I'd be inclined to check whether his name might have come…

]]> Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:52:22 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267786#post267786 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267786#post267786 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:38:06 +1200 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267784#post267784 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267784#post267784 Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:34:19 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267351#post267351 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267351#post267351 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 06:32:32 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267350#post267350 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267350#post267350 Went tonight to see a chap Gerald Phillips that silk screened many Tourist Department posters, a real craftsman.
Wonderful to hear that there's someone who remembers how these things were made. So glad that you're able to record his experience.
Told of the pain of the National Publicity Studio being…

]]> Wed, 15 Aug 2012 05:53:18 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267345#post267345 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267345#post267345 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:42:05 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267343#post267343 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267343#post267343 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:37:44 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267326#post267326 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267326#post267326 Flying to Sydney by Solent would have been all right . . .
Apparently the approach was really low – so low that the first sighting of Australia was the towering sandstone cliffs of Sydney, as described by Ruth Park in A Fence Around the Cuckoo. Unlike her earlier arrival…

]]> Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:12 +1200 Jonathan Ganley https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267323#post267323 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267323#post267323 Love the NAC posters on page 30 of the sampler. Flying to Sydney by Solent would have been all right, but I always wanted to fly the Coral Route …

__Tasman Empire Airways Ltd. Tasman Empire Airways Ltd: Go by Tasman Road, the fast smooth aerial highway. ZK-AME. Tasman Empire…

]]> Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:36:23 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267199#post267199 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267199#post267199 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:25:47 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267198#post267198 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267198#post267198 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:20:00 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267154#post267154 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267154#post267154 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:48:29 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267151#post267151 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267151#post267151 it seems odd to me to completely lock away works produced as commercial art.

Oh absolutely. These works should be in books and galleries and they should be talked about. They are all beautiful as art works in their own right.

But they're more than that. They're products of a…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:18:33 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267139#post267139 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267139#post267139 There is also a difference in my mind between display in context, a book about the period, versus a tea towel or t-shirt now, which is not a form of reproduction i can personally condone for any of these posters (accepting however that there is a role for some reproduction… ]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:09:47 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267136#post267136 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267136#post267136 Thx for the thoughtful comments re the Chief, lets not forget he has a name, Topia Peehi Turoa. Ive gone full circle dwelling on this through the day for the sort of reasons Russell went into. It is what it is, from a period, right or wrong. We can look… ]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:06:10 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267132#post267132 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267132#post267132 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:50:58 +1200 FletcherB https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267126#post267126 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267126#post267126 How about these postage stamps from 1980? There was some controversy at the time about depicting the moko of the departed in that context, but the issue went ahead.

I recall a Maori commenter or possibly comedian, suggesting while it was culturally insensitive, he just thought it was great to…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:34:37 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267098#post267098 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267098#post267098 the chiefs and their heads, portraits, images of taonga all are off my list of poster-appropriate.
How about these postage stamps from 1980? There was some controversy at the time about depicting the moko of the departed in that context, but the issue went ahead.

I don't know much about…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:32:32 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267097#post267097 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267097#post267097 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:32:22 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267095#post267095 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267095#post267095 But surely this is also a portrait of an unknown woman, and only generic because un-named? My thinking on this one: she looks like an ideal rather than a person (very well could be incorrect of course). ]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:23:32 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267089#post267089 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267089#post267089 I must elaborate: the chiefs and their heads, portraits, images of taonga all are off my list of poster-appropriate.

Having started this by posting that image, I feel I have to disagree. I think it’s a resonant image, although I’d like to know more about it.

These things exist and…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:07:11 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267084#post267084 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267084#post267084 Looks like i may have to rethink my enjoyment of the Maori chief in the dining room …..

I’ve been wondering how I would feel having one of my ancestors on a tea-towel, and I think not good. On a poster might be OK, if it was respectful. But not…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:50:06 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267043#post267043 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267043#post267043 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:57:25 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267042#post267042 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267042#post267042 (still legal tender or not, I don’t know)

coins and notes never lose their value. Got an old one pound note? The reserve bank will give you two dollars for it.

every year the Crown accounts list a liability in respect of the unreturned (and almost certainly never to be…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:12:46 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267039#post267039 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267039#post267039 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:27:18 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267038#post267038 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267038#post267038 Sounds like you had a pretty awesome grandfather. Knowledge is such a powerful thing.

E Chris – I am so lucky. From my earliest childhood, I have known that whanau/korero/ aroha is the first part of real life: that ability to provide food (garden/sea garden/fishing of all kinds) and utilise…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:47:24 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267036#post267036 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267036#post267036 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:39:16 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267034#post267034 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267034#post267034 The sixpence had a huia on it….
I laughed at that: my Huia has a sixpence in his heart I'm sure. For me, Maori imagery on coins is more acceptable than unattributed/lower-case attributed images on advertising. Coins are of value; advertising is taking mana for someone else's profit. Teatowels are…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:28:23 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267033#post267033 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267033#post267033 The sixpence had a huia on it….
If you have a Waitangi crown, it is worth a lot of money…

Most of my old coins were found one way or another – it's amazing what shows up if you've got an eye open for it, and how many of those…

]]> Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:22:42 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267025#post267025 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267025#post267025 Agreed. But it seems to be a bit of a theme in NZ history. For example, old coins:
The sixpence had a huia on it….
If you have a Waitangi crown, it is worth a lot of money…
I think me & mine, as South Island Maori, decided to retreat from…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:35:56 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267022#post267022 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267022#post267022 Can you imagine a “visit New York” poster illustrated with a mugging?

Now there's a concept for a range of tee-shirts
"Come to New Zealand... pst!... wanna buy a powerstation."

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:28:55 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267021#post267021 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267021#post267021 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:26:28 +1200 FletcherB https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267020#post267020 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267020#post267020 Also note in the original post how a couple of the volcanos are depicted in (mild) eruption… Maybe not the best time to visit?

Trying to scare people off?

Can you imagine a “visit New York” poster illustrated with a mugging?
Hey its just a possible highlight… you probably wont…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:14:44 +1200 FletcherB https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267019#post267019 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267019#post267019 I love the kitsch juxtaposition of the posters at probably best linked to earlier by Chris W.

A picture of a lake, with the name of the lake.
A picture of a bird with the name of the bird.
A picture of a flower with the name of the flower.…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:07:24 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267013#post267013 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267013#post267013 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:55:04 +1200 Pete Sime https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267011#post267011 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267011#post267011 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:43:11 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267008#post267008 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267008#post267008 Did you also know ‘Maoriland’ was the first cable (then-twitter!) address for the Dept of Tourist and Health Resorts?

I didn't know that. Can't say I'm surprised, the name does seem to have been quite widely used back in the day, the Maoriland Worker, for example.

Of course, googling "Maoriland"…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:19:36 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267005#post267005 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267005#post267005 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:49:45 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267004#post267004 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267004#post267004 I find the Maori posters a bit creepy and disrespecting

Agreed. But it seems to be a bit of a theme in NZ history. For example, old coins:

Centennial half crown with a Maori maiden taking centre stage.

One shilling, 1947, warrior poised ready to strike.

Thruppence, 1933, two mere.…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:41:25 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267001#post267001 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267001#post267001 That retro-innocence vision of NZ as a South Pacific paradise is comforting.
Sadly not retro. I still meet plenty of North Americans and Europeans who still think the South Pacific is a paradise on earth populated by noble savages and all that bollocksI was more thinking of the innocence about…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:12:27 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267000#post267000 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=267000#post267000 Oh yes. We have been asking visitors what they think of New Zealand since there has been New Zealand.Cringeworthy being at a media scrum and it's gone swimmingly until "Whaddaya think of..." comes out. I always wanted to yell "who gives a fuck we just want to hear you sing/act/whatever..."… ]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:03:40 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266997#post266997 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266997#post266997 the healthy kiwi ones made up of fruit and vegetables

teeworthy too

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:50:36 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266996#post266996 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266996#post266996 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:45:30 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266995#post266995 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266995#post266995 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:43:32 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266993#post266993 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266993#post266993 Some very fine artwork in these posters.

Why do we care so much what foreigners think of our scenery? We already know it's amazing. And it's not like most of us can take any credit for it. The geysers aren't hand-cranked...

I was amused recently when a Canadian friend, visiting…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:40:28 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266992#post266992 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266992#post266992 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:40:10 +1200 Glenn Pearce https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266991#post266991 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266991#post266991 I love those Railways Studios posters ! Letham gallery had an exhibition a while back with some of the better ones, fantastic.

This is not bad as a reference either, a little wider than just the tourism posters.

[ http://www.fishpond.co.nz/Books/Paste-Up-Hamish-Thompson/9781869621049 ]

A favourite of mine are those 50's/60's Dental health…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:37:03 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266990#post266990 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266990#post266990 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:36:02 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266989#post266989 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266989#post266989 That retro-innocence vision of NZ as a South Pacific paradise is comforting.

Sadly not retro. I still meet plenty of North Americans and Europeans who still think the South Pacific is a paradise on earth populated by noble savages and all that bollocks. It's an interesting attitude to see in…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:29:32 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266988#post266988 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266988#post266988 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:26:58 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266987#post266987 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266987#post266987 on Retronaut, including this one, which I just had to repost here. (Credit: New Zealand Tourism Department / National Library of New Zealand) ]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:16:47 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266986#post266986 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266986#post266986 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:15:17 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266985#post266985 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266985#post266985 You might like this one.

Reminds me of a Push Push song.
But this from ProbablyBest reminds me of Russell somehow...

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:07:43 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266984#post266984 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266984#post266984 Love them; I wish I could get reprint posters of these.

Try here.

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:42:53 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266983#post266983 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266983#post266983 Page 31 of A First Year in Canterbury Settlement by Samuel Butler. I love the description of the conversation. ]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:40:22 +1200 Hebe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266982#post266982 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266982#post266982 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:38:42 +1200 Simon Grigg https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266981#post266981 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266981#post266981 Oh yes. We have been asking visitors what they think of New Zealand since there has been New Zealand.

I've mentally noted too that I can no longer express opinions about the homeland as somebody based in the outlands without being pulled up sharply by those still in-country.

That I…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:30:38 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266980#post266980 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266980#post266980 if that helps.

Indeed it does, thanks, although Google has no excerpts or reviews.

This one also looks fascinating. Good thing I'm on holiday, damn internet has so many tangents to follow.

I found mine in a Wellington second-hand bookshop. Which is actually where I found most of my favourite books.

Which…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:55:35 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266979#post266979 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266979#post266979 The excellent 1959 anthology Verdict on New Zealand

Surprisingly difficult to google. Will persist, though.

Published by A.H. & A.W. Reed, if that helps.

I'll look out for a copy for you — it's a very, very interesting book that substantially informed my introductory essay for Great New Zealand Argument.

I…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:44:11 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266978#post266978 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266978#post266978 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:32:17 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266976#post266976 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266976#post266976 And some more. Wow, only 29 hours from San Francisco to Australia and New Zealand on new DC6s, with day-long thrills in gay Honolulu! And Air New Zealand's 'edge of the world' is pretty cool too – don't sail too far east, you might fall off!

Alright, I'll stop now.

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:24:58 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266975#post266975 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266975#post266975 You might like this one. ]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:18:08 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266973#post266973 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266973#post266973 Here's a few more 1930s posters. ]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:12:18 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266972#post266972 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266972#post266972 The third and the final image in the main post. You can almost see where Helen Clark found her image.
I remember such things from back in Britain, British Rail posters were in a similar vein.
It is a crying shame the way successive Governments have destroyed the institute of…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:10:43 +1200 Peter Alsop https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266971#post266971 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266971#post266971 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:39:45 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266970#post266970 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266970#post266970 The excellent 1959 anthology Verdict on New Zealand

Surprisingly difficult to google. Will persist, though.

ETA: This looks interesting, but much earlier than the likes of Kipling, Twain or Butler.

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:34:50 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266969#post266969 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266969#post266969 especially the latter who seek reassurance about the former

Oh yes. We have been asking visitors what they think of New Zealand since there has been New Zealand.

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:29:43 +1200 Robyn Gallagher https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266968#post266968 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266968#post266968 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:22:39 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266967#post266967 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266967#post266967 Most visitors are highly impressed by New Zealand's natural attractions, and fond of, if somewhat exasperated by, its people.

especially the latter who seek reassurance about the former

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:20:36 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266966#post266966 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266966#post266966 The excellent 1959 anthology Verdict on New Zealand, edited by Desmond Stone, features visitors' accounts as far back as Samuel Butler, including those of Mark Twain and George Bernard Shaw.

Most visitors are highly impressed by New Zealand's natural attractions, and fond of, if somewhat exasperated by, its people.

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:14:07 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266964#post266964 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266964#post266964 I seem to recall reading that Rudyard Kipling, after his visit to New Zealand, said something about how he'd never heard people talk so much about hard work and do so little of it. Googling now... This has a rather more positive spin:

His visit to this country in 1891…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:46:53 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266963#post266963 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266963#post266963 Up against the wall...
I have memories of a lost Eldorado of those posters: as a kid in Sydenham, the Railway was a large part of the informal entertainment infrastructure, many a weekend was spent playing under the Sydenham/Colombo over-bridge and along the tracks, towers and tunnels – and stacked…

]]> Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:40:34 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266961#post266961 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266961#post266961 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:01:05 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266960#post266960 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-selling-the-dream-the-art-of-early/?p=266960#post266960 Discussion from blog post.

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