Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Scoop.co.nz's Operation Chrysalis - Ask Me Anything https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Andrew McNaughton https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=338404#post338404 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=338404#post338404 So Alastair, with this proposed move to a new structure for Scoop, what are the plans for dealing with Scoop's substantial and very much in arrears debts? Is there a plan for how to proceed without endangering the interests of your creditors?

Note to others – I am hardly a…

]]> Tue, 14 Apr 2015 04:44:12 +1200 Jan Rivers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337406#post337406 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337406#post337406 There's just over 24 hours to help Scoop renew and refresh it's governance arrangements into a social enterprise/community ownership model. Another $15,001 will see a mobile version on it's way.
You can help too.

]]> Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:11:12 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337252#post337252 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337252#post337252 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:52:52 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337247#post337247 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337247#post337247 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:15:35 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337191#post337191 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337191#post337191 hey some of us is busy.
give us a chance to catch up, sah

]]> Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:28:28 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337190#post337190 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337190#post337190 Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:25:29 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337181#post337181 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337181#post337181 Hi Jan,

VERY WELL SAID!

al

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:46:49 +1300 Jan Rivers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337180#post337180 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337180#post337180 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:16:02 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337179#post337179 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337179#post337179 Snap! NZ = 2 degrees of separation...
the Silvan of course like so much of your fair city is sadly no more
The building is still there though,
looking much the same as it did after Feb 22+...
But you know how those two roll
when yer served lemons make…

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:16:47 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337177#post337177 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337177#post337177 Hi Ian,

Ah tis a small nation. yes GT and Debs are my uncle and aunt in-laws – and the Silvan of course like so much of your fair city is sadly no more!

I shouldn't think the TPPA would have any impact on what we are proposing. What we…

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 16:53:13 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337175#post337175 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337175#post337175 issues facing the news media
Any intimation of how a signed TPPA will affect your new model approach and modern news 'ownership' and subsequent enforcing any property breaches within the signees and beyond?

Interesting times....

ps Hi Al – I think we met through your cousin (and my old mate)…

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:52:55 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337173#post337173 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337173#post337173 Hi Rich,

Good question and no offence taken. IANAL also and at the risk of getting out of my depth I will do my best to answer your question in lay language.

First. Yes we have had the idea lawyered and in fact the idea originated out of the law…

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:16:49 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337170#post337170 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337170#post337170 Out of interest, and I’m not attacking you here, have you had this lawyered at all?

I’m wondering how you expect anyone using your service to be bound by the license agreement. My very rough understanding around “click-wrap” license agreements is that they take effect by swapping adherence to the…

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:33:40 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337168#post337168 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337168#post337168 Hi Ian,

Seriously though it is time that the issues facing the news media – in particular- how to equitably share the cost of providing news services of the quality that a modern digital democracy needs in order to function – be considered by NZ's leading institutions.

All news media…

]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:14:53 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337121#post337121 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337121#post337121 What do you think we should do?
Drag them, kicking and screaming, out of denial and into the 21st century!
;- )

]]> Sun, 22 Mar 2015 07:15:07 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337118#post337118 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337118#post337118 Hi Elmer,

It depends. ATM Auckland University doesn't seem very keen to even discuss it. What do you think we should do?

Al

]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2015 22:14:18 +1300 elmer homofeld https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337115#post337115 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337115#post337115 Hi Al

What happens when someone refuses to pay the license fee?

Elmer

]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2015 20:53:04 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337114#post337114 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337114#post337114 Hi Angela,

We will be setting up that facility after out current crowd funding is complete.

Thankyou for asking :)

Al

]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:38:56 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337108#post337108 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337108#post337108 Hi Jan,

In terms of the Governance Structure for The New Scoop that is still very much a work in progress we imagine there being an editor and possibly a commercial manager in the business with a board supervising them.

Depending how the ownership structure is set up there might…

]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:16:35 +1300 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337107#post337107 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337107#post337107 Hi Alastair,
is there room for supporters to donate small regular amounts direct to Scoop?

]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2015 17:00:12 +1300 Jan Rivers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337105#post337105 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337105#post337105 Hi Alastair,

As you know I'm a fan of Scoop and fully aware of the value it offers. I wrote this piece recently identifying some of the information I was unable to find easily elsewhere (belying the reported comment about content aggregation)

I'd like to know more about how…

]]> Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:17:13 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337074#post337074 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337074#post337074 Hi Hillary,

Technically yes though we do have special rates for NGOs and community groups (40% off) as part of our community.scoop.co.nz initiative with Comm Voices.

I have just emailed you a presentation we have just made up to introduce this whole concept to the Community, NGO and Voluntary sector.…

]]> Fri, 20 Mar 2015 16:57:18 +1300 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337064#post337064 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337064#post337064 Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:27:06 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337059#post337059 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337059#post337059 Hi Duncan,

Well that is certainly not what we want people to do. Though that reaction has occurred elsewhere.

Accessing Scoop while at work is not the same as using Scoop for work.

The former is allowed and fine. The latter is what we are attempting to sell licenses for.…

]]> Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:27:08 +1300 Duncan McKenzie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337058#post337058 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337058#post337058 Hi Alastair

My employee (XXX) sent the following email around. Is this intentional or have we got the wrong end of the stick?

"XXX is not a licensed commercial user of the Scoop website which means that staff are not licenced to access or use their site.

Specifically, note that:…

]]> Fri, 20 Mar 2015 14:21:49 +1300 Alastair Thompson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337054#post337054 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337054#post337054 Howdy Public Adress Community,

The Scoop version of this post (with a bit of extra material) is available here.

Russell has warned me that it may be a little quiet around here today and over the weekend but I will be dropping in regularly to answer any questions you may…

]]> Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:21:50 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337053#post337053 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-scoopconzs-operation-chrysalis-ask/?p=337053#post337053 Discussion from blog post.

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