Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Protesting private prisons https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address nzlemming https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=345092#post345092 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=345092#post345092 Or is it just part of his activities as an unpaid shill for the National Party?
We assume he's not paid...

]]> Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:16:19 +1200 Dave Patrick https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344923#post344923 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344923#post344923 Just got around to watching this. It says:

1. These deaths, injuries and apparent attempts to defraud are a good thing, because they give the private system a chance to demonstrate its superior accountability.

That's what I can't get my head around – is he seriously taking the position he…

]]> Wed, 29 Jul 2015 17:32:41 +1200 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344878#post344878 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344878#post344878 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:24:20 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344874#post344874 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344874#post344874 Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:00:55 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344861#post344861 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344861#post344861 Amazingly, Anne Tolley maintains that Serco could be considered to deliver social services.
"If they can deliver great results for people, why not?".
Why not indeed! After all, Serco now has experience of providing "service" to one deprived section of our society. And really... what sort of country would we be…

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:27:03 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344845#post344845 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344845#post344845 [redacted for commercial sensitivity]

I think you're onto something here Steve. Think for a moment what would happen if this group took over Serco's Mount Eden contract. After all, Serco pretty much let them run the place already so just cut out the middle man. This group has plenty of…

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:47:31 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344843#post344843 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344843#post344843 How about tendering out the public duties of the Police?
These guys seem to fit the bill...
Protective' of community
Marua Rd resident Jane Estrada said [redacted for commercial sensitivity] were often protective of the local community.

Once during a power outage, the men knocked on every…

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:18:39 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344842#post344842 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344842#post344842 There is no way any Government should be allowed to sell the care of its citizens into the hands of profit-driven corporations.

The most unseemly corporations at that...
School meals by Rentokil?
Now, that don't seem right.

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:05:10 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344840#post344840 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344840#post344840 Mike Hosking has been thinking hard about this issue – it’s actually a sign that private sector accountability is working

Just got around to watching this. It says:

1. These deaths, injuries and apparent attempts to defraud are a good thing, because they give the private system a chance to…

]]> Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:01:45 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344835#post344835 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344835#post344835 Mon, 27 Jul 2015 23:07:12 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344834#post344834 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344834#post344834 bum rap

Bum wrap, even. ;-)

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 23:05:58 +1200 Rob Stowell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344829#post344829 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344829#post344829 Mon, 27 Jul 2015 21:10:47 +1200 Dave Patrick https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344827#post344827 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344827#post344827 it's actually a sign that private sector accountability is working ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 20:42:05 +1200 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344818#post344818 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344818#post344818 on the radio ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 18:15:32 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344812#post344812 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344812#post344812 razing…
…standards
Did someone mention flags?

why…
Just the word gets me
all aflutter
and tied up in knots…
We’ll not plight our troth
to just any old cloth,
oh no.
It must be tailored
and bespeak the people
and aired to show
people have bespoken
Then
Let’s run it…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:33:05 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344809#post344809 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344809#post344809 Garrick Tremain ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:49:10 +1200 Kevin McCready https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344807#post344807 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344807#post344807 Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:18:05 +1200 Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344796#post344796 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344796#post344796 Being subjected to extreme bullying is probably not going to help.

Perhaps it would be more useful to identify the people who would be helped by extreme bullying and discuss them separately.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:20:47 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344788#post344788 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344788#post344788 That old private companies do it better mantra is getting a little tired.

I remember a late 80s cartoon showing a guy being led from his office in handcuffs, while in the foreground a receptionist explains to a caller that he's investigating opportunities in prison privatisation. Perhaps everything old is…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:05:55 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344786#post344786 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344786#post344786 Drug addiction is a mental illness, which requires a more therapeutic responce, according to the literature. Being subjected to extreme bullying is probably not going to help.

Let's upgrade that "probably" to a "definitely".

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:46:06 +1200 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344785#post344785 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344785#post344785 There is no way any Government should be allowed to sell the care of its citizens into the hands of profit-driven corporations.

Back in 2010...http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10679855...Allied Work Force was eyeing an opportunity in the lucrative healthcare sector, well experienced in employment and recruitment.
Shortly thereafter a friend, an ACC client, was sent…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:45:30 +1200 Alfie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344780#post344780 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344780#post344780 The paltry outlay for 120 subscriptions to Private Eye (one for every MP), could have saved this country a fortune!

Damn right Ian! As a former subscriber to Private Eye I've read numerous damning reports about Serco over the years, from incompetence and mismanagement to outright taxpayer fraud.

Despite their…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:36:40 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344767#post344767 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344767#post344767 Serco pilots a failure...*
The paltry outlay for 120 subscriptions to Private Eye (one for every MP), could have saved this country a fortune!

Who ever negotiated this PPP deal was dreaming if they thought SERCO would act differently to the way they have on virtually every other PPP contract…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:37:53 +1200 John Palethorpe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344743#post344743 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344743#post344743 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpEtmPVNYrA ]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:50:16 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344742#post344742 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344742#post344742 Meanwhile in Serco news: one English council has paid £10m to get itself out of a long-term Serco services contract, which will still represent a saving for council tax payers.

And a Novopay-like debacle in another county.

Meanwhile, Serco shares:

Serco was forced to issue four profit warnings last year…

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:48:08 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344741#post344741 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-protesting-private-prisons/?p=344741#post344741 Discussion from blog post.

]]> Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:48:08 +1200