Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Part 16: Charisma - Just a Dark Horse?

Richard Irvine

Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:30:16 +1200

Mike – yes I thought Parore got a lot of grief during his time, probably becuase he a. was good looking b. had bags of confidence and c. lived in Auckland more than anything else. He didn't really fit with the down home 'gee shucks' attitude we Kiwis love so…

LegBreak

Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:08:27 +1200

Simon g,

Well said on the Stephen Jones Syndrome; we do still seem to get sucked in by that bait.

But Selvey's article (and I am enjoying listening to him on the radio at the Cup) has a fair element of green envy in it I thought.

Anyway, wait until…

simon g

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:48:37 +1200

Let's not get sucked into the Stephen Jones Syndrome, where press reports from overseas are cherry-picked and fed to our thin-skinned public in a mutually sustaining round of fabricated outrage.

Mike Selvey is a good writer, one of many in the UK press. And in context his comments were hardly…

Matt Crawford

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:11:47 +1200

Hang about: this side has made two of the top three succesful run chases in One Day International history, right before the tournament starts and gets called boring.

Yes the cricket in this tournament has been more muted compared to the Chapple-Hadlee series simply because of the lopsided nature of…

Mike Graham

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:59:08 +1200

Astle? who was he again?
Isn't it amazing how quickly you can forget someone when the team is performing well without him.

And Richard – I agree with your first para above re England, but I don't usually think of Parore at the same time as Turner and Crowe. Was…

Bingle Struthers

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:42:09 +1200

Hard to disagree with that sentiment about charisma being a dangerous quality among sportsmen. The New Zealanders have a much improved steel in their eye in recent times. Partly it's a result of the team culture of showponies Parore, Cairns et al having dwindled. Astle was widely regarded as providing…

rodgerd

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:30:47 +1200

Funny thing is, Viv Richards is saying nice things about New Zealand, and one of the things he likes is that they're getting on with the job without a lot of noise and posturing.

Richard Irvine

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:17:24 +1200

Isn't this a kind of Pot / Kettle / Black situation? Flintoff and Pieterson aside, England has an equal number of grafters / journeymen. When Nixon got called up during the Commonwealth Bank series, he was selected largely on the basis of being 'a bit chirpy'.

Tall poppies in the…

simon g

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:32:46 +1200

I enjoyed Grant's post. That c-word again ... shades of Matthew Engel in '99.

But there's an element of truth in the comments. The best cricket sides (a purist writes) have batsmen and bowlers who win Tests, and then transfer those skills to the artificial game (ODIs, Max, 20-20, next…

Paul Williams

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:44:00 +1200

Hang about, this from a nation that produced such personalities as Jonny Wilkinson, Becks and Princess Anne? FFS!

Though I think you're right, NZ is a team of all-rounders; a few dibbly-dobbly bowlers and a class paceman and finger-spinner combined with a single but fragile stroke-maker and a handful of…

Public Address

Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:44:00 +1200

Discussion from blog post.