Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Not in my name, and not in his either https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Jason Kemp https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284880#post284880 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284880#post284880 Thanks Colin for putting an alternate view out there. There are plenty of churches out there with members and supporters who are more relaxed about this change.

In my experience there is a huge diversity of political views inside churches of all kinds and these span the entire spectrum -…

]]> Thu, 18 Apr 2013 20:26:37 +1200 Jonty https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284868#post284868 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284868#post284868 <.....the effect of your support will be to further reduce the claimed 20% of regular churchgoers. >

Which is why I'm flabbergasted at the enormous sums being bandied about to rebuild Christchurch Cathedral. While I mourn the loss of a splendid piece of architecture, I feel the 20% who will use it should bear the cost of it's reconstruction ... otherwise, forget it.

]]> Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:17:57 +1200 DexterX https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284810#post284810 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284810#post284810 Thu, 18 Apr 2013 07:51:09 +1200 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284788#post284788 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284788#post284788 Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:54:12 +1200 "chris" https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284754#post284754 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284754#post284754 Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:00:41 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284746#post284746 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284746#post284746 Seen on campus, lunchtime today. Headline reads:

“Should homosexual marriage be legalised?”

See the post its? Divided between “support” and “oppose”. Most of them posted to the left of the board, where it says “support”.

Translation notes: Chose “homosexual” rather than “gay” for 同性恋 in an [incompetent, probably] attempt to…

]]> Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:19:28 +1200 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284677#post284677 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284677#post284677 They have become a by-word for mindless prejudice.
Its what those in organisations do. Subsume individuality to the continuation of the organisation, and we have a lot of them govts with all its subgroups, corporations, and so called social organisations. These groupings adopt a lazy confining definition of "people" and…

]]> Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:05:10 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284668#post284668 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284668#post284668 Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:28:01 +1200 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284653#post284653 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284653#post284653 Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:26:15 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284650#post284650 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284650#post284650 Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:45:03 +1200 Martin Lindberg https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284649#post284649 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284649#post284649 The Christian churches need to a take a long hard look at themselves.

For sure, but it's also worth noting that there are no generic "Christian churches". Since most reformed churches don't fall under the "rule" of a worldwide authority, they differ from country to country and often reflect the…

]]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:01:52 +1200 James Butler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284646#post284646 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284646#post284646 St Matthew-in-the-city on Sunday mornings. I had some qualms about endorsing an institution that I don’t believe in, but their devotion to social justice and equality has won me over (I’ve… ]]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:36:32 +1200 The Ruminator https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284641#post284641 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284641#post284641 On the whole I agree with you, but there are some "progressive" Christian leaders out there:

http://www.facebook.com/ChristiansForMarriageEqualityAotearoaNZ

For example...

]]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:13:08 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284640#post284640 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-not-in-my-name-and-not-in-his-either/?p=284640#post284640 Discussion from blog post.

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