Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Look in the Mirror, New Zealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Katharine Moody https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=341105#post341105 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=341105#post341105 Wage war for 65 million in Iraq? Or bring our quota up to where its been stalled for 28 years now--and wage peace instead..

I know where my $65m would go:

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]]> Wed, 27 May 2015 13:25:07 +1200 Maz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339277#post339277 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339277#post339277 "You see to me, it isn’t enough they want to be “exemplary citizens”. They have to want to be New Zealanders as well, or I’m in favour of keeping them out."

Meanwhile, 1.7mio Syrians and 300000 Iraqis have fled, and Turkey is hosting most of them…

And what you mean…

]]> Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:19:39 +1200 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339208#post339208 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339208#post339208 the first thing that pops into my mind is “schindler’s list”

When I think of Scindlers list , I think of those palestinians who did become refugees from their homeland, and are now not allowed to return. Apparently migrants have taken their places

]]> Sat, 25 Apr 2015 10:15:50 +1200 steve black https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339163#post339163 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339163#post339163 Every time I hear “prosecute those evil people smugglers” the first thing that pops into my mind is “schindler’s list”. I can’t help it. It just bubbles to the surface.

There are times and places when moving people across bordera on a clandestine basis seems to have merit. Making it…

]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:54:53 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339137#post339137 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339137#post339137 Something that now would give him a long prison sentence on his return.

Or an all-expenses-paid trip to Guantanamo Bay.

]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:29:45 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339126#post339126 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339126#post339126 ]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2015 13:03:22 +1200 Tom Semmens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339124#post339124 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339124#post339124 Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:56:43 +1200 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339109#post339109 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339109#post339109 If you are using John Keys mother Ruth as an example of a refugee to NZ, its not correct as she married a British national in the UK in 1948 and came to NZ when she and her husband were 'assisted migrants'

The really interesting bit is that John Keys…

]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2015 12:05:56 +1200 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339104#post339104 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339104#post339104 Oh , that refugee joke.

Im sure they are laughing as they swim for their lives

]]> Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:44:02 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339100#post339100 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339100#post339100 Refugee from Dannevirke ? I think some people seem to have a confused view of what a refugee is.
It was a johke…

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:57:08 +1200 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339099#post339099 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339099#post339099 Refugee from Dannevirke ? I think some people seem to have a confused view of what a refugee is.
Unless Johs father, a Danish born Lutheran pastor was facing war, famine or pestilence, or suffered persecution in Waipukurau when the family left in 1913, refugees they were definitely not. Nor…

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 19:53:52 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339094#post339094 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339094#post339094 fugees...
You can’t tell the good from the bad. We don’t want or need the bad.
Much the same could be said for Kiwis going overseas as well...
I wonder how grateful Australia is for that refugee from Dannevirke, Joh Bjelke-Petersen ?
or Mr Asia

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 17:48:07 +1200 Tracey Barnett https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339092#post339092 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339092#post339092 Steve,
Its so frustrating to hear your perspective. To be honest, it makes such uneducated assumptions. The truth is, statistics show most refugees make exemplary citizens.

When your home country and everything you knew is gone--when you've found safety at what becomes your only refuge--refugees, especially the children of refugees,…

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 17:24:30 +1200 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339057#post339057 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339057#post339057 Like, Al Capone was the result of Italian immigration to the US in the 19th Century, not the fact that (alcohol) prohibition created a huge market that could only be met through criminality.

Suggesting that groups of people are inherently prone to crime is racism. I don't know why Russell…

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:46:20 +1200 Steve Withers https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339056#post339056 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339056#post339056 Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:39:27 +1200 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339044#post339044 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339044#post339044 How about all the “queue jumpers” who arrived here in the 19th century? It turned out that they never had death sentences hanging over their heads back in the old country after all; they were merely “economic refugees”. Your ancestors – Steve Curtis – were probably among them.

And it's…

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:42:38 +1200 Maz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339013#post339013 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339013#post339013 How about all the "queue jumpers" who arrived here in the 19th century? It turned out that they never had death sentences hanging over their heads back in the old country after all; they were merely "economic refugees". Your ancestors – Steve Curtis – were probably among them.

All migration…

]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:54:11 +1200 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339005#post339005 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=339005#post339005 he applied for asylum in NZ

Well he did have a death sentence passed back home, so your point is ? If those who claim asylum and then obtain citizenship, suddenly find their home country isnt persecuting them after all, we can revoke their passport and that allows some one…

]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:18:55 +1200 Howard Edwards https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338993#post338993 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338993#post338993 this guy – unlike your choice, he applied for asylum in NZ, not Australia. ]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:29:08 +1200 TracyMac https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338990#post338990 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338990#post338990 There are larger numbers of those that leave their own countries but can return ?

No.

As for the person who left again to fight against ISIS, does he have a family he's left in NZ? Perhaps he left because of the conflict, but has found a way he can…

]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:00:01 +1200 Robert Urquhart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338988#post338988 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338988#post338988 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:36:22 +1200 Steve Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338987#post338987 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338987#post338987 Just this week we have a person who was acepted as a refugee in NZ, went back to Iraq to join the miliatry in the fight against ISIS.
Australia found that Man Houris, the Sydney gunman, was acepted as a refugee, but after he recieved nationality made frequent trips back…

]]> Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:08:41 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338986#post338986 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-look-in-the-mirror-new-zealand/?p=338986#post338986 Discussion from blog post.

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