Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: Judith Collins and the hand-grenade handover https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=369144#post369144 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=369144#post369144 Inside out – Aaron Smale

Article adapted for international consumption:

Why are there so many Maori in New Zealand’s prisons

]]> Wed, 14 Dec 2016 12:04:16 +1300 mark taslov https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=369143#post369143 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=369143#post369143 Private Business, Public Failure

Auckland University sociologist Dr Tracey McIntosh points out that if we go right back to European settlement, there’s a long history of locking up Maori. “There was a desire to incarcerate significant numbers of our people,” she says.

It’s a salient point, given the fact that…

]]> Wed, 14 Dec 2016 10:15:34 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353184#post353184 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353184#post353184 Bloody hell!
TPPA...
Saudi bribes...
Cartels OK...
Judith Collins....

Just what is this country being groomed for?

]]> Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:33:44 +1300 John Palethorpe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353169#post353169 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353169#post353169 Wed, 09 Dec 2015 12:45:47 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353126#post353126 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353126#post353126 Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:35:04 +1300 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353074#post353074 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353074#post353074 But we also need to be very careful about how we treat people whom we have used the power of the state to incarcerate. The state has extraordinary power over prisoners, and we need to be very sure that power is exercised responsibly. Otherwise we become complicit in brutalising prisoners.… ]]> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 09:00:05 +1300 John Palethorpe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353071#post353071 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353071#post353071 Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:37 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353070#post353070 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353070#post353070 has not been cleared of. ]]> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:05:14 +1300 Deborah https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353069#post353069 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353069#post353069 No problem spending over $100,000 per year per prisoner. I guess a disabled person would have to pose a threat to the community to warrant such an investment.

If this line of argument is pushed hard enough, we end up with hard labour and bread and water diets for prisoners,…

]]> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:03:22 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353068#post353068 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353068#post353068 I think it was the implication of prison rape (“with a cellmate”) that was really beyond the pale. That’s a long way below the standard of character we should expect in a minister of the Crown.

It's below what we should expect of anyone. Ever. This crap is textbook rape…

]]> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:57:08 +1300 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353067#post353067 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353067#post353067 Prisoners get more investment in gaining employment. Better a crim than a crip, apparently.

In terms of 'acceptable' government expenditure for daily upkeep, most definitely. No problem spending over $100,000 per year per prisoner. I guess a disabled person would have to pose a threat to the community to warrant…

]]> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:48:19 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353059#post353059 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353059#post353059 After all there isn't much difference between prisoners and disabled people, is there?

Prisoners get more investment in gaining employment. Better a crim than a crip, apparently.

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:57:17 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353055#post353055 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353055#post353055 I think it was the implication of prison rape ("with a cellmate") that was really beyond the pale. That's a long way below the standard of character we should expect in a minister of the Crown.

Absolutely. In the mid-2000s a South Australian TV ad publicising increased penalties for drink…

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:58:43 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353050#post353050 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353050#post353050 I think Grant Robertson was correct when he doubted that Collins’ inflamatory comments were directed at a specific individual, though she certainly made no effort to clarify her position once the media and police had colluded to deal to their scapegoat.

I think it was the implication of prison rape…

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:42:42 +1300 william blake https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353048#post353048 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353048#post353048 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:38:57 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353047#post353047 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353047#post353047 ...given her new insights so she won't make statements in the future like the one she made a few years ago about the anticipated punishment an autistic man could expect in jail (and which was reported on Public Address).
I think Grant Robertson was correct when he [[http://blog.labour.org.nz/2011/03/10/justice-and-compassion-in-a-time-of-tragedy/|doubted that Collins'…

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:18:55 +1300 Rosemary McDonald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353044#post353044 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353044#post353044 Heard that Serco was also about to be given a contract to provide ‘care’ for some of our most severely disabled adults, until the prison mess made the media.

Please, please tell me they were not going to hand over the care of some of the TRT clients?

Those people…

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:29:44 +1300 Hilary Stace https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353041#post353041 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353041#post353041 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:47:16 +1300 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353040#post353040 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353040#post353040 Johnnyboy wont be making a mention of the history Oh no no
From the Harold..

"I am pleased to welcome Judith Collins back to Cabinet. Judith has been a competent Minister, and will quickly be able to pick up the Police and Corrections portfolios that she has successfully held before."…

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:42:33 +1300 Angela Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353033#post353033 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353033#post353033 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:48:18 +1300 John Palethorpe https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353032#post353032 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353032#post353032 I forgot to mention, you can sign our No To Serco petition here....

http://www.actionstation.org.nz/noserco

We'll be in touch!

]]> Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:32:57 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353031#post353031 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-judith-collins-and-the-hand-grenade/?p=353031#post353031 Discussion from blog post.

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