restocking the fridge in the morning from the local 7/11

I thought the trick was to drink only the clear spirits, be very careful opening them, & top them up from the tap... and hope that whoever was in the room last didn't already do that.

Yeah, but being Kiwis they probably thought they could get away with restocking the fridge in the morning from the local 7/11, before the maids got in.

Ahh, so you've done that too.

Re: Lomu: remember after one of the other defeats – 1999 I think it was – he…

That's right, they…

He was all class. My favourite comment he made was when McRoberts asked him who we should blame for the loss and Lomu said "Blame the French. They beat us".

He has gone from being a kid…

But maybe it's because NZ rugby is not strong enough. Afterall Fiji stayed in the comp longer than we did :)

And personally I am happy for Fiji. I really really am.

But.

can someone tell the F-ing IRB in the future [1] to ensure that they sell host broadcaster rights to a network who actually has one or two directors who know how to shoot Rugby? Instead of the glut of f-ing soccer directors we've been getting in France?
If you felt…

So I take it I’m the only person who quite likes the bird’s eye views they have for the games at the Stade de France?

One thing I dont understand is why the TMO can't get more involved. I wouldn't recommend that they stop the ref to advise of infringments as the game…

He’d reffed more than one match Kyle (inc. 3 Pac Rim tests this year and our opening romp v Italy.

I was talking about when he was appointed as a world cup referee, which was before our game against Italy.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_IRB_Pacific_5_Nationsthis page he refereed one test match at…

So we lost? Oh well, this team has already…

Never thought I'd say this and mean it, but I'd rather err on the side of generosity where the 'graciousness' of the ABs are concerned. And I don't think it's unduly catty to say there have been, shall we say, one or two occasions where the ABs haven't been…

We are the best nation in the world at winning rugby World Cups. We have won more than any other country. (Three were won by women).

Hope this helps!

"All passes travel forward regardless, it is a law of physics. It is the passing motion we look at generally."

#1,899,075 in my 'Grant Me The Serenity To Accept What I Cannot Change' File.

Heh – well said, and I guess, more importantly (and unfortunately) that includes the result of the game.

Or as Jonah put it, when asked to whom blame should be attached replied, "blame the French. They…

Rule 12 A throw forward occurs when a player throws or passes the ball forward. 'Forward' means towards the opposing team's dead ball line.

Yeah im not convinced that video is right, so through a work colleague im hoping to get one of our current NPC referees to clarify.

My comments about contractual obligations are not intended to slag the players. Perhaps they believe the ref was the devil incarnate, perhaps they believe it was the finest reffing performance known to mankind. My point is that I do…

Could someone please tell me when the grown-ups are back in charge of National Radio, because even there the line between post mortem and necrophilia is looking mighty thin.

I don't understand this but its still damn funny.

For gods sakes would somebody please put that boring, tired, grumpy old has been out to pasture.

Yeah, but that's just Murray Deaker being Murray Deaker – which is Item #1,899,075 in my 'Grant Me The Serenity To Accept What I Cannot Change' File. Could someone please tell me when…

So the Astrodome was filled with 70,000 people, waiting there after midnight to welcome home their crappy, loser team.

It looks like the Fijian team will be given a heroes welcome and a half when they return home – the Fijian government has formed a celebrations committee.

It would be…

Yes, I am a stinking hippy. Feel free to mock and scorn me.

Not at all. It made me feel better after reading Yamis's Murray Deaker story. What a fuckwit. Please, someone get him off air.

But maybe it's because NZ rugby is not strong enough. Afterall Fiji stayed in the comp longer than we…

Apparently some of the players are reluctant to come home right away, which is unsurprising in light of the treatment we have dished out to previous All Black sides.

My husband told me a story about the Houston Oilers today. In 1979 the Oilers were beaten horribly by the Pittsburgh…

I have just been increasingly depressed by the meanspirited ways in which some people are expressing their disappointment with the result

I caught five minutes of Deaker on Radio Sport on the way out, and five minutes of Grant Nisbett on Re:Union before Outrageous Fortune. Deaker was howling at the…

Talking of videos, I do wonder whether this one would be of any use to our fatties, you know, the next time.

Christ, you do need to be Einstein after all to understand this game.

Yes, it's a lovely take on relativity isn't it?

I'm sure that the fateful pass doesn't fall under that principle though.

If that was the principle. But it's not.

Rule 12 A throw forward occurs when a…

"I have been saying for years that passes like those are miles forward.

It gets passed off…

Erm, aren't the players being "gracious" because they're contractually obligated to?

Which marks the official point at which this thread has made me more depressed than the actual match result. Cheers.

I couldn't see where this had been said, however I think it's BS.

To clarify: I didn't ever believe…

Interesting though; I remember thinking at the time how well the SA v Tonga game was done.

He’d reffed more than one match Kyle (inc. 3 Pac Rim tests this year and our opening romp v Italy.
Don’t be misled by that’s on his wiki page….

I noted that a couple of times further up the thread (info from Wikipedia).

But I don't really regard three matches…

New revelations regarding the role of touch judges at the Rugby World Cup. Many have questioned why no-one stepped in from the sideline to point out a forward pass leading up to Yannick Jauzion's try in the French quarter-final defeat of the All Blacks.

But United…

At least Hayman and possibly Woodcock though probably not any of the hookers. Williams probably, and McCaw and Collins. In the backs, Leonard, Carter, McAlister (if he comes back in time), Evans and Toeava... not…

Don’t be misled by that’s on his wiki page….

As opposed to all those other ratshit games that didn't matter at all, because the All Blacks weren't involved? Not picking a fight, RB, but I don't think anyone came to the World Cup to fuck around, do you?

I suspect the point was that there were a heap of…

Christ, you do need to be Einstein after all to understand this game.

Yes, it's a lovely take on relativity isn't it?

I'm sure that the fateful pass doesn't fall under that principle though. The French player who took the pass was in front of the tackled player, which is…

Erm, aren't the players being "gracious" because they're contractually obligated to?

Which marks the official point at which this thread has made me more depressed than the actual match result. Cheers.

I couldn't see where this had been said, however I think it's BS. Watch the footage of the All…

As opposed to all those other ratshit games that didn't matter at all, because the All Blacks weren't involved? Not picking a fight, RB, but I don't think anyone came to the World Cup to fuck around, do you?

Not buying a fight either, but I don't understand your point…

Am I living in the same country? Wingeing about referees is one of the few things that you can bet your house on in any wash-up of an ABs…

Still don't understand your point to Russell.

Interesting stuff on forward passes:

Wow. That's the end of me EVER calling a forward pass from my recliner again.

Erm, aren't the players being "gracious" because they're contractually obligated to?

Which marks the official point at which this thread has made me more depressed than the actual match result. Cheers.

Interesting stuff on forward passes:

Christ, you do need to be Einstein after all to understand this game.

But I'm really struggling to recall a situation where such an inexperienced referee has been sent to control such an important game

As opposed to all those other ratshit games that didn't matter at all, because the All Blacks weren't involved? Not picking a fight, RB, but I don't think…

Interesting stuff on forward passes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s

If I have time I might analyse the 2 passes in question with that enlightenment on the rules.

Agree with the wikipedia thing. On a tangent this accelerated promotion of Barnes is likely to have a very damaging effect on his career.

I think that bad refereeing is part of the game in the same way players play badly at times, but this took it to new lows. In 1995 the ref was awarded a gold watch by the SAs for his "performance". The French would do well to give…

Some fans could do well to remember that. Winging about the ref should not be a core value of NZ rugby

The All Blacks, to their credit, have been gracious in defeat.

I think people prefer to take responsibility for their own performance, if only because its more constructive to…

Winging about the ref should not be a core value of NZ rugby

Well put.

BTW, when the highlights come on next, check out the pass from Carter to Luke leading up to our first try.

Barnes appears to be the new golden boy in English rugby, so presumably there was politics involved, but there's something badly wrong there.

One thing I do remember was the incident in Wellington a few months ago where the French coach was witnessed haranguing the test match ref. and then…

Some fans could do well to remember that. Winging about the ref should not be a core value of NZ rugby

He actually makes some good points (Argentina, games in Apia, the Steve Devine cynicism, reneging on crowd guarantees at RWC2011 etc..)

All points that could be, and have been, made without such unpleasant gloating though. It's weirdly hateful.

But quite what this has to do with Saturday’s game is beyond me.

I'm a little confused by the latest piece of comment from the fine writers at the Times:

Wow. I thought I'd seen it all, but I think that's the nastiest piece of chip-on-the-shoulder slime I've ever seen under the byline of an alleged sports journalist. What a horrible little man.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/rugby/2007/10/new-zealand-exi.html

If the All Blacks were so unspeakably arrogant and such incredibly bad sports, what does that make England when this comes from the keyboard of one of their “leading rugby writers”? I…

Nothing so intolerant as a Greenie questioned, eh?

Does this mean Dan is a Green ? Great, let's get him on some billboards at the next election; maybe we'll score Craig's vote :)

Actually, I didn't see any ads after the game – too busy preparing for a scheduled retail…

I had to stop lurking just to respond to this, because I have been waiting for someone to say it since Sunday.

Surely consistency in his offside rulings cannot be measured due to the large imabalance in…

Before we sink Ted and all who float with him shouldn’t we examine this issue for what it might mean? I for one think it means the promotion of the very skill set…

How about I react in kind and tell you to fuck off you gaybo hippy prick? :)

Or how about we accept some people have different values around what…

So that'd be the sort of "hugely significant" event where no one scored or was penalised or got injured and the ball didn't change hands?

Russell,

The penalty was in the play immediately following Carter’s cross-kick. That meant France went into the shed with their tails up; they have said…

I’m sad the AB’s went out, I didn’t lose any money, but I really did think they were good enough to pull it off (unlike abysmal Wales). I am however quite excited by the prospect of a French team who appears cannot be…

Oh and also slightly off topic, but am I the only person who was shocked to see tears in Dan Carter's eyes when he came off?

No – then again, I've never really been moved by Dan Carter's eyes. They're certainly not his primary profit center.

As I’ve previously posted (you must have missed it), in ’99 and ’03, the ABs we were beaten by better teams on the day as they have been before and will be again.

But none of the apologists today will offer anyone who had a greater influence on the…

Here's an amazing clip from the scene of the giant rugby ball in Paris

Hey, cool – Madeleine Sami makes an appearance in it and offers some words of wisdom.

why can't you acknowledge that the referee's performance also had a significant impact on the result?

Look, I don't want for a minute to come off as a cheerleader for Wayne Barnes. Clearly some of his decisions were marginal at best (yellow card) or very liberal (offside? What's that?) but…

I just checked Barnes' record. It's much worse than I thought.

Before this tournament started, Barnes had controlled ONE game at the highest level: France vs Italy in last year's Six Nations

His three other tests were in last year's Pacific Five Nations.

WTF?

Barnes appears to be the new…

I just checked Barnes' record. It's much worse than I thought.

Answers a lot of questions. "Stitch up" doesn’t seem any less appropriate.

I just feel gutted for the All Blacks.

Oh and also slightly off topic, but am I the only person who was shocked to see tears in Dan Carter's eyes when he came off?

Like Kyle says, I thought at the time that Dan was probably upset that his own tournament was over with his injury – it's…

Twisting it a little – but a mouthy git/sniping prick is exactly who we needed on the field – a Mashall or Weepu – not a porn star – shud've known we were fked then.

If you mean Greganesque referee ear-chewing, then I'll concede that (sometimes incessant) direct communication is…

I’ve just heard former All Black coach Graham Henry say on TV the Luke sin-binning was significant because it occurred when the All Blacks were on top.

If we were so on top, why were we illegally obstructing players to stop a try being scored?

I presume he meant on…

The Carter kick was part of a period of play where we couldn't clear it from our line leading up to the first French points; HUGELY SIGNIFICANT in the balance of the match. That is discussing what happened on the field.

So that'd be the sort of "hugely significant" event…

I refuse to blame to referee.
I blame the person who appointed him to officiate a game he clearly was not capable of refereeing.
And is not a kiwi, Paddy O'Brien, the IRB refereeing supremo?

I just checked Barnes' record. It's much worse than I thought.

Before this tournament started,…

Twisting it a little – but a mouthy git/sniping prick is exactly who we needed on the field – a Mashall or Weepu – not a porn star – shud've known we were fked then.

But rugby is about strong male values, and blubbing (in public while the game is still on) isn't what I expect from test match hardened All Blacks.

I am so glad your anally retentive, hopelessly retarded, minimalist emotional palette is rejected by rugby heroes such as Dan Carter. Boys need…

"Angry All Black fans have struck out hard on the internet, posting on a site dedicated to the "hatred" of referee Wayne Barnes.
A page on the social networking site Bebo is dedicated to criticism of…

Of course the ref had an big impact

Who had a bigger impact on the result? Answer that honestly and then we can all continue with the age old discussion about the mythical perfect game the AB’s are supposed to play.

It’s not about the French. They brought the best…

The fact that the French, in desperate…

I refuse to blame to referee.

'nuff said

the referee had a significant impact on the result.

Who had a bigger impact?

Yes, the All Blacks lacked composure when things went wobbly, and yes there were failures of leadership and selection. But why can't you acknowledge that the referee's performance also had a significant impact on the result?

I don't think anybody is saying that the referee had a great day, and…

I blame the person who appointed him to officiate a game he clearly was not capable of refereeing.

And is not a kiwi, Paddy O'Brien, the IRB refereeing supremo?

Except he had his backed turned to him is a decent sized exception.
Even backhanded I cannot see Luke McAlisatiar with his arm across the chest.

The thing that might have given pause to a more experienced referee than Barnes was Jauzion's Olympic-class dive. If you look at the clip…

Exactly right. It was the ref who stopped us scoring tries despite our glut of posession. It was the ref who decided ...

And on and on. Yes, the All Blacks lacked composure when things went wobbly, and yes there were failures of leadership and selection. But why can't you…

But I will admit it was strange…

Still under advantage, the French spun it, chipped, and ran into retreating defenders.…

Picking a clearly unfit Keith Robinson for the quarter final with the logic that he needed to be match hardened for the “games to follow”. Complacency mixed with arrogance, and motivation for the opposition. Unbelievable.

You make some good points, but what exactly did Robinson do wrong, or not do…

I’ve just heard former All Black coach Graham Henry say on TV the Luke sin-binning was significant because it occurred when the All Blacks were on top.

If we were so on top, why were we illegally obstructing players to stop a…

Just as well it was an average kick in the first place; otherwise he’d have conceded a penalty try.

Hard Man Robinson was pretty anonymous throughout in a game that should've suited him. The Crater kick…

except he had his back turned to the guy

Except he had his backed turned to him is a decent sized exception.
Even backhanded I cannot see Luke McAlisatiar with his arm across the chest.

(I guess then we're not arguing about McAlistair's right to hold his ground.)

Sure the ABs could have been better (that's their cross to carry no matter how well they win). And they regularly lose to better teams…

The tight five (including Robinson) owned the French at…

I'm saying the ref had an undue and disgraceful influence on the outcome.

Exactly right. It was the ref who stopped us scoring tries despite our glut of posession. It was the ref who decided we should let Rokocoko and Sivivatu become passengers in the second half. It was the…

He himself admitted it wasn't, that he merely positioned himself and held his ground in the other guy's running lane – surely the definition of what obstruction is? You do that kind of stuff near the try line at your own peril I would have thought.

I'm not a rugby…

You don't often get to gloat in NZ, so I'll just say...

DUCKS! 4-1! The Stanley Cup! Haha!

Dude, that is HARSH.

As for the complacency bit; which one of the following was not complacent?

Picking a clearly unfit Keith Robinson for the quarter final with…

And if McCaw thought we had such good cause for a penalty he should’ve pointed this out to Barnes.

Yes, I think if had Gregan been our half back we would have won the game.

In all football codes you are allowed to hold your ground. If you run at…

And the Ottawa Senators are 3-0-0. It's early days, admittedly.

You don't often get to gloat in NZ, so I'll just say...

DUCKS! 4-1! The Stanley Cup! Haha!

Now returning you to your scheduled rugby misery.

And BTW, is there seriously anyone out there who still thinks the McAllister check was purely accidental?

He himself admitted it wasn't, that he merely positioned himself and held his ground in the other guy's running lane – surely the definition of what obstruction is? You do that kind of…

The pick and go grind was the way to go against a very resolute French defence

I think history may prove otherwise.

And if McCaw thought we had such good cause for a penalty he should’ve pointed this out to Barnes. He was criticized after the MCG shambles for not…

Kind of the opposite in 2002 where the ref didn't bottle and stood up and awarded a legit penalty to minnows that Italy never expected would be given because they were playing minnows.

Nothing wrong with that initial penalty. The ref totally lost his cool in extra time, starting off…

They just didn’t realise they were playing in a game without the offside laws. In any other test we would have seen 4-5 kickable penalties for the AB’s in the final 60 minutes.

Yeh, that's the question that should've been asked of Paddy O'Brien. 'What the hell's happened to offside,…

Sydney Morning Herald

Canberra Times

Queenslan Courier Mail

Peter: But no England team has ever gone into a football world cup touted as the dominant team and favourite in the way that the ABs were before this tournament. Brazil usually and the Dutch in 1978 and 1974 but never England.

True, the dominance doesn't tie up but I…

They just didn’t realise they were playing in a game without the offside laws. In any other test we…

And dispute your assertion that it is correct for a ref to favour the host team.

I'm not saying it's correct, I'm saying it's what happens, way more often than not. If you don't expect it, or if you freeze when it happens (a-la Azzurri against Korea in 2002), then…

It sounds strange to say it but maybe the ABs just weren't ruthless and clinical enough?

Are you saying that the ABs couldn't have won the game yesterday?

No, I'm saying the ref had an undue and disgraceful influence on the outcome. And dispute your assertion that it is correct for a ref to favour the host team.

Like I said earlier, the serious game-changing decisions…

[Brazil,] who went to several of those interim world cups with absolutely fantastic teams (Socrates, Falcao, Zico anyone?), and who for five long tournaments discovered to their cost that playing the prettiest football doesn't always win you the game.

Sadly, the beautiful and romantic game often loses to the prosaic,…

Part of the reason for this is that opposing sides will spend far more…

Peter: But no England team has ever gone into a football world cup touted as the dominant team and favourite in the way that the ABs were before this tournament. Brazil usually and the Dutch in 1978 and 1974 but never England.

I think it was Giovanni who pointed out…

So was the scene at St Lukes mall a couple of hours later, when I dropped to kids off at the movies. People — men especially — were wandering about distractedly, hoping that a little commerce night change the subject.

Men at shopping malls, the whole world's gone topsy-turvy. In…

Me too. That story reminds me of the night England lost to West Germany on penalties at the 1990 World Cup.

Funny you should mention this Richard, as I was thinking yesterday that this game is similar to the ABs loss yesterday. 1990 was arguably England's best team since 1966…

england win right? (grace forbid...)

then imagine the ditty, "one wee war and one world cup!!"

Not to mention the papers. Yer 'Super Soaraway' Sun will just not be able to resist some rowdy, Falklands-related stirring:

"Paul vows to Sack Argie Defence"

"Jump-Jet Johnny ready for war"

"Gotcha! Again!"

etc...

The final was poor but for most of the tournament it was a really fine world cup – Roger Milla and the Indomitable Lions of Cameroon, Roberto Baggio and Toto Schillaci, and Gazza's tears. Oh, the memories. Sigh.

That's a tournament we lost in spite of a host-friendly referee (Schillaci's…

england v argentina in finals (not too unlikely)

england win right? (grace forbid...)

then imagine the ditty, "one wee war and one world cup!!"

(and if it was our people in france, then straight to jail. that monet is exquisite.)

And when the…

I seriously hope this wasn't any of our people ...

Me too. That story reminds me of the night England lost to West Germany on penalties at the 1990 World Cup. We were at Wembley (to see the Stones) and lots of the crowd had radios etc to listen the…

Drunk intruders punch hole in Monet

No dead bodies or cryptic messages left in blood?

I seriously hope this wasn't any of our people ...

heh! Crediting our drunken hordes with the ability to locate a Monet is perhaps overly generous. But just to be on the safe side perhaps somebody ought to check on the Rodin on display at Te Papa.

The Devil's in the detail or hadn't you guessed?

Drunk intruders punch hole in Monet

And the Wellington Phoenix are battling along okay too. Not over promising but not disappointing either.

And the Ottawa Senators are 3-0-0. It's early days, admittedly.

And, knowing it was actually the Devil in the numbers is not making us feel better.

It was the milk devil on the AB's weetbix!

But there really was such a lot of hubris being spun about the ABs' chances.

Not from us there wasn't.

Collins and Oliver, for example, spoke publicly about how they’d rather be playing, and I’m sure others thought that privately.

The half-million dollar cost of their trip to the games was largely covered by community fundraising.

"Rugby doesn’t influence the economy

We thought we’d mention this in case the unthinkable happens this weekend and France – not the other team – qualify for the semi final of the rugby world cup...(What with Dougie not even on…

When you have recent ex-coaches like Mains and Hart going on about a likely 30+ point win, it must have an effect.

When your coach picks Keith Robinson to get him fit for the semi-final it has to rub off.

Right, like "Why does love do this to me?"

And "Back to the devil you know"

But there really was such a lot of hubris being spun about the ABs' chances. I know hindsight is 20/20 but the danger of being so dismissive about the opposition is that sometimes it comes…

Couldn't Telecom change all the dialtones to play snatches of patriotic music when you make a call?

Right, like "Why does love do this to me?"

Why couldn't Air NZ paint all their planes black and have the staff fly and serve coffee wearing rugby kit? Couldn't Telecom change all the dialtones to play snatches of patriotic music when you make a call? Why couldn't Parliament switch…

You take a considered stand and you take your chances in these things. It is the columnist's lot, and an enjoyable, invigorating one whatever the outcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7m-JkxQU54…

Now where's that white flag got to?

Jim Kayes: Forget '99,…

ANd I think Andy Milne and legbreak got it pretty much right.

To which I'd add, they tackled liked demons, we missed two that counted given they only got the ball about twice. Imagine what a better…

You play to the conditions and guess what, when you play against the hosting nation you also play to an extent against the ref.

In a two point game France scored half their points against 14 men and made the break that led to the winning 7 pointer from a…

The tiny upside as a result is that we will likely end up in the same group…

alternative view explained here

Hey! I was moving from 'bargaining' to 'acceptance' this morning, and you ruined it by being all mean!

In hindsight, I think all the cr@p I heard on radio sport yesterday afternoon may have influenced how I read the comments this morning. Yes, yes, I understand listening to Murray Deaker…

Something not quite right there…

Grow up.

Hey! I was moving from 'bargaining' to 'acceptance' this morning, and you ruined it by being all mean!

Actually, Stephen Jones is right, and we have to deal with it.

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far. When you make the other team complete 173 tackles, you must be doing something right, and the other team is doing something simply enormous. Both teams have to be given credit (the…

Actually, Stephen Jones is right, and we have to deal with it.

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far. When you make the other team complete 173 tackles, you must be doing something right, and the other team is doing something simply enormous. Both teams have to be given credit (the…

But would you really say that it wasn't the best team who won on the day, is that what you take out of the game?

Well judging by some of the comments here, thats exactly what people are taking from the game. Wah wah, the ref cost us the game,…

Having just read it, no he isn't.

We have to deal with defeat, but that man's bitterness towards anything to do with NZ & in particular rugby is simply bizarre.

You play to the conditions and guess what, when you play against the hosting nation you also play to an extent against the ref.

Are you saying that the ABs won in 1987 because they had hosting rights ?

Paul Waite is right on the money.

That being said, I…

Nice message for the All Blacks from Paul Waite at Haka.

Uhm... if by nice you mean: you were beaten by the ref, guys, we're right behind you, then I guess it was nice. It's an awfully simplistic way of looking at it, though, and I would hope that most…

Mitchell's team was good,…

I went to the gym afterwards.

The Freyberg was unusually busy for that time on a Sunday afternoon. Possibly a lot of guys thinking "after that, this might be my big chance" but…

if you remove the pacific islands because they were ruled by the brits

You don't even need to do that with all of the Pacific.

Fought against Samoa in WWI. Us in the Land Wars (kinda). Etc.

To anybody suggesting Gatland – Go the Mighty Magpies! (my one piece of great news at the weekend!)

Paul, to Mooloo fans, that was just about the point where the day definitely couldn't get any worse :)

There's probably more teams in the show they've warred with than not..

actually, if you remove the pacific islands because they were ruled by the brits via us till recently, and australian and us because we were british till recently...

then the english have fought everyone

(oh, you'd have to…

So was the scene at St Lukes mall a couple of hours later, when I dropped to kids off at the movies. People — men especially — were wandering about distractedly

That's just men at shopping malls, horrible sterile places that they are, it's got nothing to do with the…

To anybody suggesting Gatland – Go the Mighty Magpies! (my one piece of great news at the weekend!)

There's probably more teams in the show they've warred with than not..

I was about to say the same thing.

Do the Land Wars count?

It's funny – looking at the stats, the ball handling, the 15 phase movements – you wouldn't think it possible.

Which just reinforces what true believers have always known: the secret to our success lay in Carl Haymens beard.