Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: If the fish stinks ... https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361790#post361790 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361790#post361790 Computer analysis of the images?

That's got to be where they're heading. It's also something that if NZ made it work I think a lot of countries would buy off us. And our reputation as sustainable would get a boost too, simply because we had that system.

I work in…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 16:10:33 +1200 Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361788#post361788 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361788#post361788 But either way the solution is to increase funding to allow them to operate independently and not to simply accuse them of being corrupt.

I agree with the first part, more funding is essential.

But I did not mention corruption. I think it's interesting that my impression of MPI is…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 16:05:55 +1200 Kiwiiano https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361786#post361786 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361786#post361786 Thu, 02 Jun 2016 15:36:33 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361783#post361783 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361783#post361783 Thu, 02 Jun 2016 12:05:31 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361782#post361782 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361782#post361782 Thu, 02 Jun 2016 12:01:38 +1200 Howard Edwards https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361781#post361781 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361781#post361781 I thought Shane Jones had sorted out the fishing industry in NZ and the Pacific – surely it can't be broken again?

(NB: May contain traces of sarcasm

Indeed – if anyone knows about video footage it's Shane "a mighty kauri has risen" Jones.

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:56:52 +1200 Barry Torkington https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361780#post361780 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361780#post361780 It's all quite absurd. Trident received the contract because the quota owners demanded it. They were given the choice of who they preferred to work with and unsurprisingly chose Trident.
The accelerated roll out of 400 cameras to cover the commercial fleet raises some basic reality issues. Each vessel would…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:54:22 +1200 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361779#post361779 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361779#post361779 This is bollocks. You just said those same cameras showed dumping and illegal activities that were not prosecuted.

So IF there was abuse of the cameras then either it was really incompetent abuse and failed to delete the illegal activities
OR
There was no abuse of the cameras.


My impression…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:41:04 +1200 Idiot Savant https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361777#post361777 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361777#post361777 And so, a new series of questions arise. Who, in this so-called open and transparent system, entered the RFP process? Why was Trident Systems preferred over the other applicants? Which individuals made the decision to award the tender to Trident, and on what criteria? And how did MPI and industry… ]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:23:09 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361773#post361773 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361773#post361773 MPI is full of good dedicated hard working folks who believe their job is worthwhile. I'm sure there will be the odd bad one in MPI but that's true of any organisation. To go after MPI when the problem is the government is just picking on the easy target.

And…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 11:06:20 +1200 Tim McKinnel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361768#post361768 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361768#post361768 To clarify the camera situation for you, there is no suggestion the cameras were misused. Also, the footage we know about because of a leaked report was captured by another company.

Greenpeace does not think the fishing industry should be monitoring itself. You are welcome to a different view.

I…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:39:27 +1200 Paul Brislen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361766#post361766 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361766#post361766 Let me tell you about the 20 year struggle to get access to the report that defines our snapper fishing industry.

Oh wait, I can't because after asking for nearly 20 years (yes, twenty years) the report is lost and cannot be produced. Yet our policy relies on it.

MPI…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:26:29 +1200 st ephen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361763#post361763 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361763#post361763 Twenty years ago I talked to a guy who worked as an observer on fishing boats in the Southern Ocean. He said the by-catch reports radioed in were something like:
Boat A – 1 albatross, no dolphins
Boat B – 0 albatross, 1 dolphin
Boat C – 13 albatross, 7…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:11:41 +1200 Bart Janssen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361760#post361760 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361760#post361760 we do see that type of capture everywhere from policing to politics, but it’s still a bad thing

My experience with them has been different.

But either way the solution is to increase funding to allow them to operate independently and not to simply accuse them of being corrupt.

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 09:58:01 +1200 Moz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361759#post361759 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361759#post361759 MPI is full of good dedicated hard working folks who believe their job is worthwhile. I'm sure there will be the odd bad one

My impression from a few random contacts is that MPI has quite a lot of people who feel that commercial fishing is under attack and will…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 09:52:58 +1200 Bart Janssen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361754#post361754 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361754#post361754 And just as an aside MPI is way way overworked and underfunded. Going after MPI is just attacking the lone policeman on the block.

The problem is this government has decided that funding MPI will limit their ability to make tax cuts next year.

MPI is full of good dedicated…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 09:44:53 +1200 Bart Janssen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361753#post361753 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361753#post361753 No matter what access MPI has to what would ultimately be many terabytes of footage, if an industry is responsible for reviewing, analysing and reporting on itself, there is a risk of abuse,

This is bollocks. You just said those same cameras showed dumping and illegal activities that were not…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 09:40:01 +1200 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361752#post361752 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361752#post361752 I thought Shane Jones had sorted out the fishing industry in NZ and the Pacific – surely it can't be broken again?

(NB: May contain traces of sarcasm)

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 09:11:54 +1200 Paul Brislen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361750#post361750 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361750#post361750 Well said, Tim, and I couldn't agree more.

LegaSea is the recreational fishing lobby group and we've called for a Commission of Inquiry into MPI and its handling of all these matters.

A Commission of Inquiry is defined like this:

A Commission of Inquiry (Commission of Inquiries Act 1908)

An…

]]> Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:53:04 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361749#post361749 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-if-the-fish-stinks/?p=361749#post361749 Discussion from blog post.

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