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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						What it shows is that the two times France were going to score tries they were pulled back for forward passes.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:33:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						What it actually shows is how weird the French victory over New Zealand was. Right now all I want to see (other than the final) is a one off test between the All Blacks and this Argentinean team.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:04:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Argentina 34, France 10. Doesn't that put into perspective how crap our bunch of choking show ponies are.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:21:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						(where "we/us" = fellow supporters of <strong>any</strong> team, and "strangers" = "people of other or unknown team affiliation"; this isn't limited to All Black supporters, or Kiwis)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:48:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Danielle: the paradox may be resolved by noting we usually only voice our doubts among ourselves, not in public among strangers. So observers within NZ will see us angsting, while observers overseas are more likely to infer arrogance. Unless they've been following the PA threads.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:41:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>As The Main Ingredient so accurately sang, some years ago: 'Everybody plays the fool sometime/there's no exception to the rule'. </p><p>(BTW, my husband, also not-truly-invested in rugby as an American, noted to me that he was really surprised by how much insecurity NZers have about how well we play rugby.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:53:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Thom James</title>
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						As an Englishman with very little interest in rugby, it has caused me a good deal of amusement to watch New Zealand search the very depths of its soul over the last two weeks as it attempts to come to terms with the unthinkable. I thought to myself, "How sad,…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:51:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't know about over-invested in rugby culture, but I'll bet if it had been rugby and not soccer that Fijian goalie wouldn't have been banned!</p></blockquote><p>Yes. I was disappointed that the Fiji 7s team was allowed to play here last year. The distinction apparently, that the 7s was an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:34:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						I don't know about over-invested in rugby culture, but I'll bet if it had been rugby and not soccer that Fijian goalie wouldn't have been banned!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:31:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What are you all going to pod about over summer?</p></blockquote><p>What we always podcast about...sport and crap.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:58:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						<p>Yeah, great work Dropkicks. My fav bit of the podcasts are when, after you all booo the DOTW, someone goes 'wanker', or 'dick' or the like under their breath. That bit's class. </p><p>What are you all going to pod about over summer?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:18:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Llewellyn</title>
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						<p>Yeah, thanks Guys, you provided a valuable rugby-tragic community service. Sort of a cathartic 'Dear Abby' for those who took more than a few days to get the angst out of their system (I think I'm over it now, albeit with the the very occasional <em>did-that-really-happen?</em> moment.)</p><p>C'mon Wellington.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:07:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Y'all know we'll still be going over on our blog eh?<br />Heck it's only just over 4 months until the Super 14 (blech!), the non-muntery will continue</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:38:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Hey, thanks, Dropkicks lads and Russell for Some Foreign Field.</p><p>It was good, and it gave me an in to the world of rugby. I'd never ever cared before, but the world of non-muntery rugby comment and culture was something I could get into.</p><p>I'm not sure how it happened,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:51:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>Thanks a lot guys.  It's been swell having you.</p><p>Cheers,<br />    Brent.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:27:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						So long guys. Good work.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:18:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						And also there needs to be some discussion around the current fine-line between the All Blacks marketing machine and the MSM. Both the way that the media would report anything that Adidas or Heineken* might tell them about but also how they would "invent" stories and issues. Remember the locking…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:14:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Unless something flippin' interesting happens in the final and then we might do a postmortem
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:11:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:11:36 +1300</pubDate>
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