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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Actually I'm willing right now :)</q></p><p>A couple of hours ago I Liked her FB post from Paris.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						So, let's give her a heads up. I'm keen if you are. Actually I'm willing right now :)
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:14:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						people on the spectrum are entitled to adequate support services as a right, according to our governments who observe the UN Convention about such matters. Whether they actually deliver on that is a measure of our community's political strength, which (surprise) is not that much. Happy December 3rd.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Tom was arguing for different kinds of mind refinement </q></p><p>Tom was simply <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4024115.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">channeling Prince Charles</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:44:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I was glad to see Dr Megan Woods getting a chance in the reshuffle to try make a difference for y'all. </q></p><p>I'd like to believe, her being my MP and all, but I'm not the only one who wondered where the heck she was at those post-quake events attended by…</p>
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						<q>But the choice of training should be up to the individual. It should be noted that dropout from tertiary qualifications is not merely a matter of “some people aren’t suited to it”, but also, and rather more importantly, “some situations – such as not having enough money to pay fees…</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 15:05:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>tradie or a teacher or a nurse</q></p><p>though the last two require qualifications rather than on-the-job training.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						On further reflection, having the incumbent  being mostly bean counters and liars , I'd suggest until an Mp shouts as much as Davis has, for the Media, issues in ChCh won't get the traction so rightfully needed. This "gotcha" driven type Media journalism seems to be the only way to…
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						All I can say, (not being down there and family not in touch too much) I was glad to see Dr Megan Woods getting a chance in the reshuffle to try make a difference for y'all. I imagine that everyone down there including the mps (old and new) must carry…
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						ok take that back then . I did look for a reference other than it being derogatory to Pygmies but obviously not diligent enough because I thought that wasn't like Joe to be so flippant.  Sorry.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Ahem, Pygmies? What's well put there? Let's not be insulting (?) </q><br />I remember discussing Clayton Cosgrove's performance with you here a while back. You made a persuasive case for giving him the ongoing benefit of the doubt, which tallied with my then recent experience of his stumping up to post-quake…</p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>Tom was arguing for different kinds of mind refinement –<br />though the frame “many people are unable to benefit from university” was admittedly a clumsy way of introducing the premise “the present expensive time-consuming degree-oriented tertiary qualification system doesn’t work for many people” and an even less apt lead to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 12:06:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>No one is saying no to free education, just an end to the idea the only education that counts is a costly tertiary one that goes on forever.</q></p><p>And nature just happens to have gifted you with the kind of find mind to make these kinds of decisions on behalf…</p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>“moral pygmies” = “people short of morals”. <br />No shortage of those in National, for sure.<br />“Immoral bastards” might be more politically correct in one sense, <br />but ... possibly ... less generally correct in another.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>That’s what the Labour Party once stood for, before it was white-anted by bean-counting moral pygmies</q></p><p>Ahem, Pygmies? What's well put there? Let's not be insulting (?) Pygmies eh, although my current bean counter is really cool.<br />As an aside I'd wager that National has many more bean counters than…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 11:30:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>“…“Every person, whatever his level of academic ability, whether he be rich or poor, whether he live in town or country, has a right, as a citizen, to a free education of the kind for which HE IS BEST FITTED”</p><p>You need to calm down sometimes bro, your hater gonna…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:10:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>That’s what the Labour Party once stood for, before it was white-anted by bean-counting moral pygmies who imagine their privileges were somehow divinely ordained, rather than being hard fought for by their working class forebears.</q><br />Well put, sir.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 09:23:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<q>A huge number of people – probably the majority of the population – are not particularly academically gifted, hated school, and are not that interested in the drudgery of continuing education. They just want a decent vocational job with a bit of on the job skill up-dating and training and…</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 08:55:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>I’m slightly sceptical of MOOCs as a solution…</q></p><p>We’ve already discovered that to much education simply leads to a qualifications arms race that the middle class is better equipped and funded to capture in their interests than the lower middle class, the working class, the working poor or the just…</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>Why does anyone think automation takes away jobs?</p><p>Like, before the industrial revolution, everyone worked on farms, and then we freed those people up and instead of mass unemployment we got massive wealth and prosperity growth.</p><p>Freeing up miners and loom workers and scribes and coopers and wainwrights didn't mean…</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<q> Robots could drastically improve our quality of life. The jobs they’re good at—the only ones they’re capable of right now—are the boring, repetitive, strenuous positions. By taking monotonous tasks off our fleshy hands, they could free us from drudgery so we can do what humans have a unique aptitude for:…</q>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>For further reading by the same author on the topic:</p><p><a href="http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-to-keep-a-piece-of-the-pie-after-the-robots-take-our-jobs?trk_source=recommended" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">How to Keep a Piece of the Pie After the Robots Take Our Jobs</a></p><p>I’m slightly sceptical of MOOCs as a solution, because they need an <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/moocs-failure-solutions" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">incredible amount of self-discipline</a> to complete, and completion rates are <a href="https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/03/08/researchers-explore-who-taking-moocs-and-why-so-many-drop-out" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">typically far less</a> than…</p>
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						<q>The employer can’t find the person with the exact right skills at the price they’re prepared to pay, or someone close whom they will have to train for a bit. It’s as much a statement about their stingyness as it is about the availability of the people with appropriate skills.…</q>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p>If anyone is interested, Rodney Dickens has an analysis of house prices and consumer spending in NZ here. Good read and he's suggesting that even if house prices were to fall, rising employment and increasing migration will keep consumer spending high.</p><p><a href="http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/78949/rodney-dickens-says-forget-dairy-and-housing-consumer-spending-central-driver-economic#comment-835804" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/78949/rodney-dickens-says-forget-dairy-and-housing-consumer-spending-central-driver-economic#comment-835804</a></p>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p><q>Essentially, it seems to me that the very way people work is changing.</q>Cue two BBC Radio 4 series on that topic, both currently available to stream through BBC iPlayer, though not to download:<br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0656f2d/episodes/player" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <em>The New Workplace</em></a> (from August 2015; podcast access has expired)<br />and [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06r4kg4/episodes| __The Joy of…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						And wouldn't you, if you were an employer in a competitive industry where everyone else is doing that? In IT, your main cost will be wages. It's what I'll probably do when it comes time to try to upscale my business &ndash; no sane stats graduate kiwi kid is going…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I'm not sure what you're talking about there Swan. Not being combative, but I just lost the thread. A supply shock in what? Jobs? Money? Property? Oil? Milk? I just don't know what you're talking about, so can't really intelligently respond. </p><p>It seems overly confident to state that the full…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>I think there’s an unwillingness of some employers (going up the value chain to corporate purchasers of IT) to (a) pay the rate for the job and (b) develop staff skills rather than expecting to hire people with a 99% fit to their tech of the day.</q></p><p>Employers ruthlessly use…</p>
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				<title>Swan</title>
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						Ben, if we had a supply shock we might have unemployment and high inflation, but that obviously isn't the current situation, it is fairly well recognised we have a lack of demand.  It is arguable that things get difficult when we get near the ZLB but that isn't the case…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I don’t believe there is a major skills shortage in the IT sector. </q></p><p>I find it quite hard to square with being unable to find a job despite huge experience and skills in the sector, and not even having high salary expectations. To me it's just one of those things…</p>
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						<p><q>I don’t believe there is a major skills shortage in the IT sector.</p><p>I think there’s an unwillingness of some employers (going up the value chain to corporate purchasers of IT) to (a) pay the rate for the job and (b) develop staff skills rather than expecting to hire people…</q></p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						Well noted. Despite any ideological bluster, there seems to be a strong element of entitlement among the rentier class, which seems to be particularly strong in Auckland. The same rentier class (all-powerful in NZ and Australia) tend to ignore that the global monetary system, which sees our banks secure wholesale…
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						<p>I don’t believe there is a major skills shortage in the IT sector. </p><p>I think there’s an unwillingness of some employers (going up the value chain to corporate purchasers of IT) to (a) pay the rate for the job and (b) develop staff skills rather than expecting to hire people…</p>
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						<p><q>Well the only way you're going to be able to prove your point is if Auckland has a property crash. From your comments, your interpretation of the wealth effect is different to mine and that espoused by Robert Schiller.</q></p><p>Another thing to consider is that certain political leaders in Auckland…</p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						Well the only way you're going to be able to prove your point is if Auckland has a property crash. From your comments, your interpretation of the wealth effect is different to mine and that espoused by Robert Schiller.
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						<p><q>Of course. For most major combinations of demography and opinion there are some examples of people like that. But I was hoping to get an idea of any particularly significant groupings.</q></p><p>In my case, I'm tempted to vote Labour again, largely on the strength of the proposed Digital Apprenticeship Scheme.…</p>
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						<p><q>What you are saying is quite right, but that's not how people actually think during bubbles. It also works in the other direction, when asset prices crash. And this is a scenario that the govt is terrified of.</q></p><p>In gambling circles, it's called 'double or quits'.</p><p>The overall point is…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>We have had low inflation for I think about 6 years, and similarly high unemployment. Therefore, monetary policy has been too tight.</q></p><p>It's a bit hard to make therefore-type conclusions about this stuff. It's possible that we could have high inflation and high unemployment too, which would be even more…</p>
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				<title>Swan</title>
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						The actual interest rate alone doesn't determine whether or not monetary policy settings are appropriate for a given situation.  An OCR of 4.5% might have been too low in the mid naughties, just as an OCR of 3% has proved to be too high recently.  We have had low inflation…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> For what I hope are obvious reasons, I won’t be sharing the specifics of that information publicly.</q></p><p>Well, I can guess what the reasons are anyway. The Colonel doesn't give away his special blend of 11 herbs and spices to just anyone.</p><p><q>There are, of course, people who aren’t unemployed…</q></p>
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						Have there been any expelled MPs over the years? I thought they all walked. I don't think anyone's ever come back though, unlike the Nats revolving door with ACT.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						understood, but if they had expelled them from the party it would have been easy not to invite em.
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						I think they invited everyone who has ever been a Labour MP &ndash; really, they only had the choice of doing that or restricting it to those who have always been in the party &ndash; otherwise they'd have to make a value judgement about each of the renegades.
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p>I am no economist but we have the lowest interest rates since 1964, so where are the new industries looking to employ people in full time work?</p><p>MH is only half right about jobs being a critical issue, it’s the quality of jobs, not casualised, part time; working in poverty.</p>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						The wealth effect from housing is pretty weak in NZ. House price inflation benefits only those who are downsizing. So while case can be made that all those Auckland retirees moving to Tauranga might be spending more, those trying to get their first home will be worse off.
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				<title>Swan</title>
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						<q>Well, Labour: one of the main reasons for unemployment is that interest rates are set too high for the real economy, the reason they have to be high is to stop Auckland house prices rising faster that they are already, and the reason house prices are rising is that income…</q>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						The wealth effect was first hypothesized by Robert Schiller, who stands apart as one of the more respectable behavioral economists of our time. What you are saying is quite right, but that's not how people actually think during bubbles. It also works in the other direction, when asset prices crash.…
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				<title>linger</title>
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						Still struggling to see any nett benefit for most people. Unless you take out a reverse mortgage or suchlike, or cash up and move to a cheaper suburb, an increased property value doesn’t affect actual cashflow. Without such measures, any perceived “wealth effect” from the value of one’s own residence…
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						No. As house prices rise, people tend to consumer more, particularly if they own their own homes. Speculation is simply driving up asset prices, but the "wealth effect" is felt by others, regardless if they're speculating or not.
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>When it comes to recipes, Roger’s been known to channel the spirit of Aunt Daisy.</q></p><p>Many thanks for that Mr. Wylie...we were in need of a good laugh. :-)</p>
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						<q>Where you have property bubbles, you also [have] higher discretionary spending</q>by the small minority of the population actively involved in property speculation &mdash; which does not support growth in employment or wages for the majority. Invoking the thoroughly discredited "trickle-down" theory is just taking the piss.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>which supports employment and wage growth</q></p><p>but that's not what we're seeing, is it?</p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						I'm going to be a little disruptive here about unemployment. Since the GFC, global capital has been on the hunt for a home where interest rates are high, therefore the Aussie banks have been on a roll with wholesale funding that they can flash at property speculation, which has been…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I was severely tempted to run him over one day as the sour old bastard put his wheelie bin to the kerb as I happened by. Such a destructive arsehole.
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						<p><q>another spectacular misjudgement</q>Yah, of the “step away from the festering corpse” variety. On what planet is any continuing association with Douglas <em>not</em> an obvious electoral weapons-grade biohazard?</p><p>@Joe: It appears Labour <em>can</em> make this kind of stuff-up ...</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>another spectacular misjudgement.</q></p><p>They've also invited Michael Bassett, who unlike Jim Anderton will be attending. The very same Michael Bassett who wrote a glowing review of Brash's Orewa speech, and later gloatingly revealed that he'd written most of it. You really couldn't make this stuff up.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>they've invited him to dinner</q></p><p>another spectacular misjudgement.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>What might be on the menu?</q></p><p>When it comes to recipes, Roger's been known to <a href="http://imperatorfish.com/2009/05/16/sir-roger-apologises-for-recipe-confusion/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">channel the spirit of Aunt Daisy</a>.</p>
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						<p><q> they’ve invited him to dinner:</q></p><p>What might be on the menu?</p><p>Slow cooked superannuitant?</p><p>Deep fried lean cuts of unemployed youth?</p><p>Lightly sauteed brain of has -been economic despot?</p>
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						<p><q> they should get a job, for as small a wage as possible </q><br />Not to mention all that welfare they're sucking up. Roger Douglas plans on having a chat about that to his former soulmates seeing as they've invited him to dinner:<br />[[http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11552297|"I'd like to talk to the odd one about the…</p>
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						Does the term "jobless recovery" come to mind? Especially with scientific and economic commentators increasingly speaking of the "Luddite Fallacy" becoming less of a fallacy with each passing day.
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						<p>This reminds me of Harold Macmillan's quote:<br /><q>“I am always hearing about the Middle Classes, What is it they really want? Can you put it down on a sheet of notepaper, and I will see whether we can give it to them.”</q></p><p>The trouble with this sort of approach, now…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>How about working together for a common goal, the future we are creating by our present actions for our future generations.</q></p><p>Well yes. Our forefathers did that. They invented, improved and discovered all kinds of things to make life easier, to make the working week shorter, to increase leisure time,…</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>Jobs matter to people.</q><br />a lot of things matter to us people.<br />How about working together for a common goal, the future we are creating by our present actions for our future generations. Yes money is good too, its why we go to work now. But current and forseeable policies…</p>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q> Madame Boag got her knickers in a twist </q></p><p>Thanks,  Sacha,  for planting that image in my brain....</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q> What do you, realistically, suggest they do instead? Stick with a policy that the media uses as a stick to beat them with?</q><br />Although I reckon they could have had better messaging around this (e.g. that it's a tax on speculators and will increase investment in productive assets), the reality…</p>
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						Jobs are certainly a biggie. Madame Boag got her knickers in a twist only yesterday on Q&A over an opinion poll verifying the public's concerns thusly do not match govt priorities. #fleg
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				<title>Rob Salmond</title>
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						<p>@Ben:</p><p><q>'m curious, Robert, who it is that Labour sees as the target voter for this kind of push. Is it the unemployed themselves? Do they have some kind of evidence or information about just which voters might think jobs is the number one issue to the point that it…</q></p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Rewarding/pointless is a quadrant.</q></p><p>For sure, I don't really want to slice and dice it. Just giving the cliches of central tendency so far as work goes. I'm currently doing unpaid work that I love &ndash; looking after children mixed in with postgrad stats training, and I'm only an attitude…</p>
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						<p><q>I’m curious, Robert</q></p><p>That was a question for Rob Salmond, btw. I just realized I have no idea if Rob's a Robert and definitely shouldn't presume to call him that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 14:10:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						yep, about as likely as MH saying changing TV show hosts is good.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:34:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p>Last week on, um, whatever his tv show at 7 is called, he was banging on about the flag vote and how we should change it.</p><p>"Change is good" he said. Presumably, he'll be happy to say we should also change the gov't in 2017, because, like he said, change…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:21:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>many sane and promising policy statements</q></p><p>Research has shown that people do not vote based on policy. </p><p>Influencing social discourse is crucial. Some parties have been better at it than others. That has to change before people will vote differently.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:19:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>are people in NZ under the delusion that the Nats did well with the GFC?</q></p><p>given the failure of political communication to the contrary (despite ample evidence), yes</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 13:16:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						Unfortunately the Australian experience suggests that things like CGT need bipartisan support or they'll be quickly undone after a change of government. New broad taxes are rarely popular, so it's an easy win to the incoming government to at least promise to get rid of it. The GST was bipartisan…
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						So are people in NZ under the delusion that the Nats did well with the GFC? Just look over the Tasman, where the Labor govt did an awesome job, and unemployment barely budged.
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						Don't think it's totally accurate to say that the media hated the CGT policy idea. Plenty of commentators supported it (e.g. Bernard Hickey). I think more accurate to say that many people, including media and &ndash; more importantly &ndash; voters, hated it. Plenty of voters have relied on investing in…
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						Rewarding/pointless is a quadrant. A lot of people do pointless work but find it rewarding &ndash; much of the tech/design industry for instance.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:05:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						<p><q><br />4%. In the Neo liberal world do we need negative interest rates to have jobs?</q></p><p>Given that it has worked wonders in Japan, I would say not.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Again, Labour delivered the message poorly….</q></p><p>Labour has, on many occasions, delivered many sane and promising policy statements.<br />The Media and those who have only their own interests at heart, have stuck their collective fingers in there ears shouting “LA LA LA LA CAN’T HEAR YOU” and then stated, truly,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:01:09 +1300</pubDate>
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						I'm curious, Robert, who it is that Labour sees as the target voter for this kind of push. Is it the unemployed themselves? Do they have some kind of evidence or information about just which voters might think jobs is the number one issue to the point that it changes…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:55:36 +1300</pubDate>
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						The modern news media is also on the verge of bankruptcy and increasingly kept there by government subsidy (e.g Mediaworks).
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:45:18 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>I actually don't believe that NZ will elect a left-wing government until after the crash.</p><p>What will Labour offer when Auckland house prices drop 60% and the banks are crashing: haircuts and austerity?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:43:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p>"Well, Labour: one of the main reasons for unemployment is that interest rates are set too high for the real economy,"</p><p>4%. In the Neo liberal world do we need negative interest rates to have jobs?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:38:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Labour was caned by that media for it’s CGT </q></p><p>Again,  Labour delivered the message poorly....</p><p>....and the media capitalised,  to The Incumbent's benefit.</p><p>As a non voter,  with no Party affiliations,  I sometimes wonder if Labour is being sabotaged from within.</p><p>Just when they seem to be resonating...boom!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:14:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>So you just ruled out a capital gains tax. Smart.</q> </p><p>The modern news media is an uncritical member of the ideological state apparatus dominated by and run by the winners of the neoliberal economy, and they hate CGT because a large number of them are property speculators. </p><p>Labour was caned…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:51:27 +1300</pubDate>
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						Well, Labour: one of the main reasons for unemployment is that interest rates are set too high for the real economy, the reason they have to be high is to stop Auckland house prices rising faster that they are already, and the reason house prices are rising is that income…
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>The media gave up reporting on unemployment a decade ago (the unemployed don’t consume) and it isn’t the issue it once was. The poor and the unemployed are now invisible and nowadays the news leads with sightings of Taylor Swift.</p><p>The only thing that would put jobs front and centre…</p>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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