Bob's Bible-fearing troops had their first field-day with Sue Bradford's 'Child Discipline Bill' earlier this year. Bob was up in arms. What would this country come to if parents were stopped from exercising their God-given physical powers on their children's bottoms?

By "Bob's Bible-fearing troops" I'm sure you mean to…

I wish you guys would stop criticising the Sensible Sentencing Trust and actually talk to them or work with them for a long term solution to crime. They are not rednecks or fundies or self promoting like some other groups you mention and we agree on.

Sensible Sentencing does a…

I get that Labour are really pissed with the Exclusive Bretheren, but maybe the solution might have been to make it an offense not to put your name to any material you distribute.

And I'm sure Mr Edgeler – our resident legal Brainiac could correct me if I'm wrong -…

I wish you guys would stop criticising the Sensible Sentencing Trust and actually talk to them or work with them for a long term solution to crime. They are not rednecks or fundies or self promoting like some other groups you mention and we agree on.

Sensible Sentencing does a…

I just don't like my letter box being spammed with glossy paper. What am I supposed to do with it. The toxic crap doesn't burn well.

Are you talking about catalogues from K-Mart? or flyers from Exclusive Bretheren? Or Pledge Cards from Labour?

Putting your name to what you say; Well…

So, perhaps we should STFU with this thread because, you know, it's kinda demeaning to folks who live under conditions of real state media censorship...

Oh no, I think everyone should rant away.

But as far as I know though, the EFB doesn't restrict free speech. It restricts electoral advertising.…

Money isn't freedom of speech. What they're protesting about is the ability to distribute their 'freedom of speech' and making it available to a wider audience.

It feels a bit demeaning to people who are struggling against regimes that actually do restrict your freedom of speech.

So, perhaps we should…

Sensible Sentencing does a…

Money isn't freedom of speech. What they're protesting about is the ability to distribute their 'freedom of speech' and making it available to a wider audience.

Amen, Kyle. "Freedom of expensive distribution of speech" is such an obvious oxymoron.

I've lost whether the bill at present is good or not. But I wish people would…

And right on cue: Bob and Christine turn up on the TV news, together fighting fascism (sic).

Sigh... I really wish someone would put a hundred dollar tax on using 'fascist' in public... But what's you point, Simon? I was on that march, and you may think the issue is…

The only major fault I found was that it was over…

And right on cue: Bob and Christine turn up on the TV news, together fighting fascism (sic).

They're obviously opposed to fasces.

Family First has electoral appeal – Sensible sentencing is lynch mob – what's that other vehicle for self promotion ...For the Sake of our Children.
Hopefully ego will stop them joining forces or is it that the have the same supporters who change t-shirts for the day.

And right on…

McCoskrie, not McCroskie

(pendantic cough)

But ol' McCroskie is unhappy at the police, who refuse to do the same. Yay, the popo!

Slightly trickier to boycott. I can see it now.

"Mr McCroskie, you're not going to report any assaults or burglaries to us? OK, well, safer policing together is our motto, but if you…

But ol' McCroskie is unhappy at the police, who refuse to do the same. Yay, the popo!

Bob is of course using them for his own self promotion & I've got a bit of concern where it will end up.

Family First has electoral…

His position on the cervical cancer vaccine certainly hints that he is not prepared to let thinking about it get in the way of his moral finger waving.

link

NB The Catholic church most definitely disagrees with…

The only conclusion possible is you really are desperate to defend our ruling junta who have left us with little more than pineapple lumps...

There is one other conclusion possible, as per this entry in the Oxford English Dictionary:

SATIRE:
The use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or…

They are both heavily involved in pre-marriage education. They have 4 children.

Joining the dots: proselytising antiabortionists? Not necessarily what I'd term progressive.

This is progressive on the Board of Reference:

Dr Mary DALY and Chris MARTIN
Mary is a GP practicing in South Auckland. Chris is a stay-home dad with a background in boatbuilding and tutoring in…

I freely speak: Californication is rubbish, but I only found this out because I took the trouble to watch it. I won't bother again. I don't even mind Bob getting outraged about it (except that he made me waste an hour last week).

Everyone I know who watched it did…

Ugh. This is, like, high school media studies. Family First need to watch more television.

No no. Less.

You didn't have to be particularly aware to work out, from the pre-publicity, that Californication was going to be tacky and exploitative, shit, I don't read much about TV but I'd heard…

This video from The Daily Show puts the whole thing in perspective (and it's funnier):

Heh, cameo by Jon Oliver!

I hope they sort it out soon. Sounds to me like the writers have got a fair point, but I'd like the daily show back by early next year at…

And I note that this particular "Shut It Down" campaign has somehow avoided being labelled "political correctness gone mad". That of course is reserved for the points of view Family First doesn't share.

heh...I guess the boycott isn't any form of social engineering then...

I freely speak: Californication is rubbish, but…

From what I've heard about the place, writers are somewhere above the homeless but below janitors on the Hollywood social ladder.

Heh heh. We've all heard the joke about every waitress in Hollywood is a waitress-slash-actress, but this video from The Office really takes the cake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6hqP0c0_gw

This video from The…

Oh BTW hope to see you all at the March against the Electoral finance Bill, 10 am Aotea Square, Auckland tomorrow. Fun.

Yeah...seems Bob will be there .

"Hi – Bob McCoskrie from Family First. I’m passionate about issues affecting the family.
I’m sure there are many issues you’re passionate…

Californication commits the unforgivable sin of making the main character a writer- cue lots of self-indulgent/smug/self-loathing wish fulfillment. I mean c'mon, how many writers in LA actually…

The War On Science. BBC documentary investigating the controversial legal battle underway to demand the teaching of intelligent design as an opposing theory to the theory of evolution.

The interview with Bob McCroskie on bFM is interesting because he admits that he hadn't actually watched Californication before calling for it to be boycotted.

But, unless the networks give him a preview copy (to ensure some good, negative publicity?), he would be unable to legally view it except by…

It is kind of strange how the people who shout the loudest about 'family values' always seem to end up in court on kiddie-fiddly charges.

Eww... not quite what I was thinking of, and while I think Krosky The Klown is an idiot who should be allowed to talk his…

What is it with Prime actually screening stuff?

Having a ready source of non-US material could come in handy for them in the next few months if the fountain of mediocrity from the US dries up with the writers' strike and all.

Someone must have said to Duchovny you're a wooden actor & he took it as a compliment, he's reason enough not to watch.

No way, he's great. He's wooden alright, but in the Bill Murray sense, not the Ronnie Reagan sense. Last night he managed to remain wooden while banging a…

he only conclusion possible is you really are desperate to defend our ruling junta who have left us with little more than pineapple lumps

dad4justice, is that you?

On a related them, I was re-watching Life of Brian the other night and wondering exactly how thick you'd have to be…

We've been watching the Dresden Files on Saturn. At least, my other half has been, whereas the wooden over-acting and general lameness have made me flee the room.

It's not good enough to be engaging, but doesn't reach the depths of unaware crapulosity that makes a show a 'guilty pleasure'…

Comeon Russell, Craig, you’d call it in if the mitten was on the other paw. If its good enough for the goose and all that.

What, was the nun wearing mittens? Whose paw? And there was a goose involved?!?

Wow, I gotta start watching this show! Thanks for the heads-up,…

The interview with Bob McCroskie on bFM is interesting because he admits that he hadn't actually watched Californication before calling for it to be boycotted.

Something the MSM shoulda/coulda asked before reprinting FF's press release (with a phone quote inserted for good measure)??

Maybe even all in consecutive weeks.

What a novel concept – would the audience put up with it?

Apparently Family First's cohorts in Australia gave them a summary of the show, and so it seems like FF's outrage was based on a plot…

Wow, I stand corrected. What is it with Prime actually screening stuff? First Dr Who, and now this?

My mum's pissed she doesn't get Prime. Imagine if they'd bought Torchwood. They might have... played it or something. Maybe even all in consecutive weeks.

(Of course, I've already seen it thanks to aforementioned friends in America, but the gesture is nice).

Are the Dresden Files coming to NZ?

Only from "friends in America". And if it really does end up screening here, they'll bury it in some time slot no-one watches, just like they do with anything else good (The Wire, Veronica Mars...)

the Dresden Files

I've never been able to watch that show, the title just gives me the creeps. Couldn't they have given the title character a different surname? Albert Aushwitz? Ned Nuremburg?
yeah, yeah, I know, it's from the book

I think you mean an actor playing a Fireman having simulated intercourse with an actress playing a nun.

I meant actually as in it wasn't a dream sequence unlike the scene in Californication.

Okay, not sure of the House Rules, and this is probably breaking Nettiquette but .... I'm cutting and…

Personally I'm just angry I missed the first few episodes, guess I'll just…

And yet a few weeks back on Rescue Me we had one of the Firemen actually having sex with an actual Nun! Not a peep from Bob

Give the man a break: he can't possibly actually WATCH the stuff he's trying to get taken off air, so he needs some…

... even vile fucktards I wouldn't let anywhere near my children unless supervised by a sane person with a taser

It is kind of strange how the people who shout the loudest about 'family values' always seem to end up in court on kiddie-fiddly charges.

I remember…

And yet a few weeks back on Rescue Me we had one of the Firemen actually having sex with an actual Nun!

I think you mean an actor playing a Fireman having simulated intercourse with an actress playing a nun. Just as I don't think Dennis Leary actually raped Andrea…

And ironically enough, Three just pulled Saving Grace (a show whose…

Bob McCroskie's brain went into overdrive. His widely-reported analysis was that "sexual liberation" was the cause of this abuse.

There must be some confusion in the FF ranks because Garth George says the abuse just ain't so.

An interesting gameto play is to try and match up George works, which come…