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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<p>Here a link to Aotearoa's e-panui (newsletter) with the widest circulation.  The current issue, put out today, has constitutional reform in Aotearoa as its lead story.</p><p><a href="http://www.tangatawhenua.com/rangikainga/2007/issue2.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.tangatawhenua.com/rangikainga/2007/issue2.htm</a></p><p>just to get an additional and different Maori perspective than mine.</p>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<blockquote><p>swearing to return to academic only under duress</p></blockquote><p>Its a vipers nest alright, although I enjoy that aspect somewhat because I quite simply can't seems to care about career advancement (not in a large bureaucratic organisation anyway).  </p><p>But Sissons is like good bedtime reading for (former) academics.  Very easy to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 23:48:46 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>manakura, kao. i'm going to have to come clean and admit to very recently purging all my old articles, and swearing to return to academic only under duress (i kept all the old books, mostly because they seem to impress people).</p><p>just too little money for too much workload. in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:30:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<blockquote><p>there is no way that separate, federal, states could be maintained in a society as small as new zealand</p></blockquote><p>I would have to agree with this, NZL is too small to take the easy path of creating iwi federal states-within-The State, and furthermore the iwi rohe would be far too…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:06:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>i wrote my thesis criticising kymlicka (and kymlicka was my external examiner).</p><p>after arguing in favour of group rights, he goes on to state that the practice of those rights is best maintained 'in the vernacular' (it's a book called, unsurprisingly, "politics in the vernacular"). he even goes as far…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:18:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						Thank you for posting that Kymlicka link.  Although I have not read the books you mentioned I enjoyed reading the summary.  I am not able to address the points raised with any sophistication, but I understood the primary thesis to be that liberal societies must specifically protect minority cultural rights…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:30:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So when Manakura says he wants to create an alliance of minority groups (to presumably set against other groups)</p></blockquote><p>Hmm.... no.  The empowerment of a group that is oppressed and marginalised does not necessarily require the disempowerment of another group (although that is one possibility and probably not a desirable…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:55:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Bennett</title>
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						<p>Weston, </p><p>I pretty much agree. A couple of thoughts.</p><p>(i) Culture and politics:</p><blockquote><p>In principle, I believe that our governmental structures should not politically or economically discriminate between cultures. I tend to think of this as a moral imperative.</p></blockquote><p>We do this already. Our laws discriminate in favor of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:18:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Mark,</p><blockquote><p>[...] the upshot is that we can now live in a colour-blind liberal democracy. That might work if the people who entered into the political relationship under the Treaty consent to this, or no longer exist. If not, then what Tully would say is that an intercultural dialogue must…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:18:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Bennett</title>
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						<p>Great post, thanks!</p><p><br />The Treaty is, no doubt, a collection of old musty rat-eaten parchments. No people should or can be bound to words on paper that are not somehow relevant to their collective self-government. The big 'but' is that the Treaty does have some pretty important and widely-subscribed to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:10:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<p>Kia ora Anjum,</p><blockquote><p>the few notable exceptions are willie jackson on tv &amp; derek fox on national radio</p></blockquote><p>Eye to Eye is easily the best current affairs/interview show on the box.  That Willie Jackon has not replaced Suzanne Wood on Close Up shows Bill Ralston is [insert unchariatble comments here about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:34:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Stephen,</p><p>If your point is that the FSA provides a mechanism for the judicial recognition of certain customary rights but gives title to the Crown (and therefore precludes the direct judicial recognition of customary title), I accept it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:19:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>13.3 is quite clear: "3)  Subsection (1) does not affect customary rights <strong>that are able to be recognised and protected under Part 3 or Part 4</strong>."</p><p>And then Parts 3 and 4 go on to enumerate what may and may not be recognised and protected in some detail. So first,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:55:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Hey Manakura, Stephen</p><p>I should have started by saying that I enjoyed the post.  If I had to say just one thing, it would be that the second part of this quote need not be limited by the first:</p><blockquote><p>Instead Maori should get real and focus on rebuilding strategic political…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:18:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I understand that the Foreshore and Seabed Act does make provision for judicial determination of customary rights to the foreshore and seabed.</p></blockquote><p>Stephen is right; the FSA 'foreclosed any further exploration on that front.'  It removed the common law rights of Maori to seek declarations of customary title to the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 12:00:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						I see that John Key, in the best traditions of Mark Foley, is taking a 12 year old girl from McGehan Close, aptly named 'Aroha', to Waitangi with him &ndash; to act as a human shield against flying debris directed at him, and of course as a prop for those…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:04:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						But Weston, I thought the point was that the courts had not yet clarified what existing common law rights there are? The Foreshore and Seabed Act effectively foreclosed any further exploration on that front. Cullen is fudging; the legislation codifies existing common law rights <em>as Cullen understands them</em>.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:36:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>Deborah,</p><p>I'm not an expert in this area, but I understand that the Foreshore and Seabed Act does make provision for judicial determination of customary rights to the foreshore and seabed.</p><p><a href="http://www.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gpacts/public/text/2004/an/093.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gpacts/public/text/2004/an/093.html</a></p><p><a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=21539" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.beehive.govt.nz/ViewDocument.aspx?DocumentID=21539</a></p><blockquote><p>“Groups will be able to secure customary rights orders protecting their right to continue any activities, uses…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:03:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Great post, Manakura.  I especially like the way that you point out that Maori would love to be subject to the rule of law – Foreshore and Seabed case anyone?  Wouldn’t it have been great if the legal process had been allowed to run through, instead of being ruled out…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:38:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You can build as many boats as you like, you can own a few boats (but not too many), you can steer the boat now and then, but you better not ever rock the boat.</p></blockquote><p>Nice, Yamis.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:12:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So within a Western liberal democratic and free-market structured State Maori are free to be Billy T and Anika Moa but not Eva Rickard, or Tame Iti . We are given the generous allowance to be a musical-sporting-all-singing-all-dancing people, but not an independent-in-control-of-our-own-political-and-economic-destiny people.</p></blockquote><p>I like this bit.  I've always…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:32:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>hmmm... only just found this post. melbourne is great. am writing from the state library building. the room i'm in is a vaulted dome four stories high.</p><p>looking forward to taking some time to read this!</p><p>maybe tuesday.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:43:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>anjum rahman</title>
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						<p>i also have to say that this was a brilliant post.</p><p>there are several aspects that strike me as interesting:<br />1.  how very little we get to hear maori perspectives like this in the MSM.  i know it's to be expected, but it's pretty damn sad.  one of the problems…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:27:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						For those asking about tino rangatiratanga and mana motuhake &ndash; google it, or even better ask someone you know who is involved in the struggle(s).  I don't wish to speak to these because I'm not a paid up memeber of any sovereignty movements; my iwi and hapu leaders have recently…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 11:52:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Miller</title>
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						<blockquote>Maori need to let go of the idea that negotiation and ‘partnership’ with the Crown is the only viable path to tino rangatiratnga and mana motuhake. As a keen history pupil I have no faith in the Crown whatsoever as a true and honest Treaty partner. Instead Maori should get…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:43:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>great post, many thanks indeed.</p><p>i was at that lecture and it dawned on me that Dearest Bill ain't all that bright at all. i don't know how he ever managed to promote that idea, that much was smart i agree. </p><p>but remember his brilliance achieved one of National's greatest…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:05:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Thanks for the very insightful analysis. I'd never considered the "official bi-cultural project" in this light (and I'm not sure I do now) but it's a fascinating notion.<br />I was lucky enough to be taught by the late (and I reckon great) David Novitz for a few years- and he…</p>
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				<title>Robert Wilson</title>
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						<p>This was a very interesting post &ndash; I thought you made some insightful points.</p><p>Can I follow up on your response to Mr Feltoe's question?  </p><p>What is that you, personally, want in the political relationship between Maori and the Crown?  Or perhaps, to your point, a better question would be:…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Paul Wood</title>
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						I can see the movie now: <em>What Maori Want</em>, starring Mel Gibson as John Key, Leader of the National Party, who suffers a freak accident and suddenly finds himself able to understand the thoughts of the Tangata Whenua...
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				<title>Lawton Hakaraia</title>
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						The Treaty is in princple about &ndash; Partnership &ndash; Protection &ndash; Participation.  Without these principles Maori would be on the persecution list similar to our friends across the Tasman &ndash; the Aborigine.  The Aborigine is the oldest race in the world and have probably been persecuted from their origins -…
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Thanks for this! <a href="http://www.arena.org.nz/The%20Treaty%20of%20Waitangi.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.arena.org.nz/The%20Treaty%20of%20Waitangi.htm</a>
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						<p>Mr. Manakura,</p><p>This article will take quite the muse before a real discourse emerges.  </p><p>Give me an hour, and I'll respond.</p>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I promise I'll read your post again, but for now I only have one question: What is it exactly that Maori want?</p></blockquote><p>I reccommend you ask some of your friends with the brown faces?</p><p>I could tell you what I want as a Maori person,  but I would never be…</p>
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						Usually at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_De_Siecle." target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_De_Siecle.</a>
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				<title>Andrew Feltoe</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-e-tu-bill/?p=6739#post6739</link>
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						Yeah, like famines, menstruals, and the Black Cap's ability to bat well. ;)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:13:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-e-tu-bill/?p=6735#post6735</link>
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						Isn't cultural nationalism just one of those ugly things that goes in cycles?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:22:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-e-tu-bill/?p=6732#post6732</link>
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						<p>Not only do our politicians live in a parallel universe of their own creation (remember history is written by the victor but the little people live, breathe and die regardless), they also want to own the stories they create.<br />A small island state like NZ must be tolerant for it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:54:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Feltoe</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-e-tu-bill/?p=6731#post6731</link>
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						<p>Hey Kane,</p><p>A veritable tome here.  Much appreciated.</p><p>I'm a British citizen who came to New Zealand ten years ago (and heading back in a month).  In sociology and cultural studies in university we looked at the smoke and mirrors surrounding how people define themselves and their place in cultures.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:33:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-e-tu-bill/?p=6728#post6728</link>
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						vivat crescat floreat 	"may it live, grow, and flourish!"
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 03:58:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-e-tu-bill/?p=6722#post6722</link>
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						<p>I'd just make one comment:</p><p>It would be really helpful if we'd abolish the term "Crown" and replace it with the contemporarily accurate "Government and People of New Zealand" or some less clumsy formulation (the Aussies use "Commonwealth").</p><p>Because in 1840, the "Crown" was the elected (by a limited franchise)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:03:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:03:11 +1300</pubDate>
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