Our Glorious Leader, John almighty, wants to look after normal Kiwi Battlers to protect them from "rapists and murderers**" by ignoring what the Australian…

She’s commented quite strongly on how…

One example, despite yesterday's denials from the Minister.

The Prime Minister has apologised for saying that the opposition back rapists – which they obviously don't. The Leader of the Opposition has apologised for saying the Speaker is biased – which he obviously is.

The…

Don't forget they also sign to pay for their removal . Push 'em out, remove all rights, charge 'em. Nice.

Michelle holds the Party line....

Michelle Boag, the former National Party president, says she is "disgusted" by those evil women who stood up in parliament and dared to share their experiences of sexual abuse. How dare they make it…

http://www.maoritelevision.com/news/regional/kelvin-davis-continues-march-against-sexual-violence

And walk he did. Not a show for the media...he walked.

Up hill and down dale with a very small support crew.

If I hadn't seen him with my own coldly cynical eyes...I would have doubted the story.

Kelvin Davis…

Well yes, though his final paragraph, where he claims that "The political civil war of the last week has done nothing at all for any of the detainees on Christmas Island" is standard Dunne touting himself as Mister Common Sense once he's…

As Rob's pointed out in his original post, Key threw a dead cat into the room to distract from being criticised on a real and…

Really. It makes me sick with anger and sadness.

How can we as New Zealanders treat our own citizens like this?

How can our PM and the speaker behave this way in parliament?

How can our country stand beside Australia…

I don't know much about the rules (standing…

The Bogan-in-Chief!
Right Honourable, hah!

"Tough on crime" is actually "tough on criminals". Well, poor brown criminals, not middle-class white…

http://poeticalessay.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/

Claire Trevett....

If apologies were commodities the Government surplus would be assured in perpetuity given the extent to which demand is outstripping supply.

I'm not seeing it like you are Russell. It appears that the guard is in motion, has to step around the guy with the beard and…

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/289451/no-nz-rapists,-murderers-on-christmas-island

They need a TMO

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/11/new-zealand-female-mps-mass-walkout-pm-rapists-comment

So much for NZ's repuatation for progressive politics.

Dan Parker allows the women who walked out of Parliament to tell their stories. My eyes were welling up and then Marama Davidson spoke and I just felt really angry about the way she's been treated.

The clip also includes video…

And, to be fair, there are good reasons for that.

lovely freudian slip :-)

You could call a vote of no coinfidence, but the party benefitting from bias is hardly going to add their votes.

It's really a question for someone with the right legal expertise for something authoritative, but as far as I can tell this is ruled by sections 12 and 13 of the Constitution Act 1986.

And as I read those two sections,…

The Governor-General? The Ombudsman (when she's not too overloaded)?

Carter acknowledged that Key yelling "you back the rapists!" at Labour and the Greens yesterday was unparliamentary. But then said that Key couldn't be required to apologise because no one objected at the time. When Opposition MPs pointed out they…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo

Some bad people, sure, but it appears the Prime Minister was making shit up yesterday.

Sometimes they clarify things other times they just make you cry, politicians and shrooms.

I'm also confounded by some people who constantly apologise and outright mock or insult anyone who disagrees with their chosen ideology…

Serious question, given his/her ability to shape the debate in the chamber, it is important the speaker is unbiased and has a competent understanding of the rules of the house (as well as an ability to hear shouted abuse…

Thanks for the update. Now about those detainees...

On that note, bias among political journos…

He's a speaker in name only.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/73925970/parliament-in-fresh-uproar-over-prime-ministers-rapist-remark

clickety clack, clickety clack...

"There is no evidence of that remark being repeated".

None that he wanted to see or hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42I9jM9vS0

I'm not a qualified lip-reader, but what does he say at approx. 55 seconds?

http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/distant-riot-causes-unrest-at-home-2015111017

Looks to me like he's repeating it. (Once or twice, it should make no…

Of course Carter couldn’t do anything about the incident…

my experiences with this sort of response is akin to hearing stuff or the heralds headlines (but never the article) being recited back to you verbatim

or…

*Excludes those with Chinese names.

The changes…

Where's that arm twisting PM we've been promised for so long.

Perhaps St Helen was a little rattled over reports that a bunch of natives had been plotting to catapult cows at her and Dubya. A bit like Key taking it badly over…

You could have knocked me down with a feather! Didn't she preside over the enhancement of human rights?:

While recognising important areas…

If only! It's the BSA, they're more likely to say the errors "weren't material" and decline to uphold the complaint.

The least they can do is ask: will the real John Key please stand up?

Then: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/286714/key-to-ask-australian-pm-to-release-nzers

Now: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/289358/pm-stands-by-'rapists'-comments

However, Kelvin Davis is showing how to keep playing the character line. Will his colleagues follow suit or get sucked into the hand-wringing that…

well spotted, English is pretty disinterested until that point, then grins and hides it by reaching for a glass of water to cover his smirk.

That Key goes back to the…

I know this is a side issue in an otherwise enlightening article, but, really?

At conference, the Labour Party
a) came out in support of capital, and
b) dismantled the one single policy that could have mitigated the impact of asset sales on…

A forced acknowledgement of the error, buried at the end of a bulletin many months from now after everything's moved on!

Exactly! these people are being punished TWICE for the crimes that some…

http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/31/article_17386.php

(b) Australian refugee and asylum policy:

http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/31/article_17291.php

The Prime Minister will *not* get away with whitewashing Serco's incompetence and Australian's repressive approach to human rights and…

And bingo it worked. The PM has successfully turned all the Kiwis in Australia awaiting deportation into degenerate criminal scum. It doesn't matter that many are simply…

It does seem to me that that line in particular is a breach of the broadcasting standards.

That in addition to the blatantly deceptive reporting of the numbers is well outside the standards.

If this doesn't work, not only the detainees…

Here’s an example. Mid-way through Key’s performance he yelled ‘Labour can back child molesterers (sic) and murderers, I’m backing New Zealanders.’ The line doesn’t make any sense in the context of the debate, because – as Key has pointed out – the detainees on…

On the other hand…

Two stories which neatly illustrate the Australian & NZ deep state attempt at controlling the narrative vs. actual verifiable stories of real people. It pays to bear in mind the Australian government…

Question to Gordon Thomas('Mayor' of Christmass Island)...

How do you feel about New Zealanders being held there?

I come at from this point of view: If somebody is born into our community, or is raised in our community, whose life is shaped by our community, whatever they do in…

I assume Key has got the poll results and they've told him his voters wouldn't mind if Christmas Island was a permanent gulag.

On the other hand, Herald editorials and other "establishment" voices are…

Why?

This is what's bothering me most about the latest exchange.

The resulting conversation, including…

But is it real steam if it’s not RL? The streets are empty.

The whole idea of deporting people because they’ve committed crimes, versus not deporting people who are citizens who’ve committed the same crimes, is abhorrent.

We are all responsible for the care and nurturing of everybody that forms…

It’s normal for political journos to be biased to one…

Four of the 199 Christmas Island detainees are sex offenders and a further six are separately classified as child sex offenders (which includes pornography). The 40 New Zealanders on the island may or may not be among them.

Human rights issues in Australia ! Big Topic. Well out of reach of the New Zealand Parliament. Overcompensate they will.

Gower did the same thing. It's bizarre. Davis's first words were a polite "excuse me, Prime Minister". He did use the word "gutless", but he wasn't at all aggressive, or obstructive.

He's got no concessions at all from Turnbull and has to smile while saying how great Australia's policy is. Seems weak and ineffective to me although it…

Repurposing Christmas Island was a Tony Abbott initiative that Malcolm Turnbull seems happy to continue. He's also retained Abbott appointee Peter Dutton as Immigration Minister, despite Dutton…

Not just uncritically, misleadingly. I'm really angry about this.

And didn't make it clear that this wasn't only Christmas Island – indeed, seemed to deliberately obscure that important distinction – didn't note the total number (some of whom are…

When TV3's political editor is uncritically running Key's lines, it's hard for other lines to get through.

ETA

Here you go:

Figures released later show Australia has 585 Kiwis on its deportation list including 34 child sex offenders, 22 murderers, 16 people conficted of rape and sex…

This might play better if Key were actually standing up for something. He's rolling over on Kiwis being deported. He's rolling over on poor treatment of kiwis…

I don't think it would ever enter our PM's head to modify his behaviour in the House or anywhere else for that matter.

The difference is, this time Labour MPs did more than just say "Oh, ref! Not fair!", and…

Watch his mouth...he nearly said "boy".

And the look on Carters face.

And Turei's hand gesture....

A rich, middle aged Pakeha calling a Maori MP "son". An old, rich Pakeha guy condescendingly talking down to a Maori women MP. And a white settler PM and his white settler speaker siding with…

Justice Minister Amy Adams…

Well first up, a responsible government would have called out Australia on it's human rights abuses at the UN.

And yes I know we're really good mates with Australia but frankly if your mate is beating up it's own then…

Seriously, I think the Labour Party is walking into a trap here. Unless they can explain exactly what more they would do to support the detainees, and convince the public that it would be a worthwhile use of Government funds and resources to…

As I understand it, supporting them includes supporting their bid to stay in Australia. If they already…

The NZ Government should protect the rights of NZ citizens against the injustices of foreign powers.
It's what you call a fundamental issue.

I think perhaps Our Leader sees his Maori Party support disappearing.

No wonder he is acting like a cornered cat.

All hissy spitty....

Easy response to that: Privilege complaint. Its a breach of privilege to assault a member in the course of their duties, and DPS need to be…

Getting punished twice for one crime.

And the person who should be supporting you giving you the finger.

Both Martyn Bradbury and…

For many of them, that is true. But it was also true that Lorraine and Aaron Cohen wouldn't have been in Penang Prison were they not drug traffickers. Same for Schapelle Corby. But they received consular and diplomatic support anyway.…

I think this was an opportunity to both score points against the opposition and also to re-frame the detainees to limit public sympathy for them (and by extension those opposition…

That's it: John Key is not behaving as a Prime Minister should. The niceties of governance elude him.

Yes. I just saw someone on Facebook buying the whole "they wouldn't be there if they weren't dangerous, violent criminals" pitch.

Sigh.

"I kind of agree with that stand up guy John Key – we don't want those nasty criminals to come back to NZ"

Key knows his audience, it certainly isn't us here, and it isn't the parliamentary press gallery.…

Just another day in NZ politics under this govt

nothing to see here other than some cat corpses littering the hallways

all so very depressing

Key was rattled by Davis, and his response has been to lose his temper and lash out like an insolent bully.

It’s not the worst assault ever, but that’s beside the point. Key was in no danger – he was already on his way. And Prime Ministerial…

Carter's performance today was unbelievable. Bear in mind that…