Public Address | Cafe | Speaker: All Been Said https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address InternationalObserver https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=32706#post32706 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=32706#post32706 A mayor ... has thrown a spanner in the works, and we'll doubtless have a whole lot of bickering between now and kick-off. But there will be a kick-off. So, even if our Word Cup curse cannot be lifted, could we perhaps not doubly embarrass ourselves?As an Auckland City ratepayer… ]]> Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:31:49 +1300 Richard Llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=32703#post32703 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=32703#post32703 Jerry Collins story from todays Guardian is absolutely superb ]]> Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:42:55 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31683#post31683 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31683#post31683 Oh and if it's only quotas that are being placed on South African rugby (and not crazy financial or "cultural" changes) then I think Jake White should stay.

If you think about all the famous sports biopics, the great coaches aren't the ones that run away when presented with a…

]]> Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:08:18 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31682#post31682 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31682#post31682 First of all let me say I can't believe I'm going back to arguing the reasons for New Zealand's loss.

Had the AB's continued to play the game in which they started the game kicking into the corners and playing the rugby in the opponents 22 they would have beaten…

]]> Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:01:41 +1300 Neil Smart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31661#post31661 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31661#post31661 I hate to say it guys but you are all a little bit right but have missed the key point. I am talking about the game not the politics.

The All Blacks failing was that they thought they could win the world cup by playing the kind of rugby we…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:49:28 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31658#post31658 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31658#post31658

But, why did we find this out the day after he was elected?
Surely, politicians seeking election should advertise their intended policies BEFORE the election?

But he did!

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:14:33 +1300 Mark Thomas https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31652#post31652 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31652#post31652 Perhaps not surprisingly, Brian Ashton says "you cannot plan for a World Cup"

"Look at the last soccer World Cup – if I remember rightly Italy struggled in every group game yet went on to win the final. We lost a group game and went very close to winning the…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:44:24 +1300 Richard Llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31648#post31648 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31648#post31648 I've often thought that much of the problem in terms of rugby 'watchability' is that the existing laws just aren't applied or are applied inconsistently (which is the nature of the beast I guess in a sport where referee subjectivity is so influential).

If the offside law was actually constantly…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:32:11 +1300 Che Tibby https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31647#post31647 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31647#post31647

Um, I think that's the whole point of a haka. You don't perform a posture dance with the intention of maintaining a sense of humility.

but the intention isn't to pronounce to the world "I AM AN OVER-DRAMATISING COCK", surely?

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:24:55 +1300 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31646#post31646 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31646#post31646

Change the scoring system.

Agreed – games should be decided on tries, not penalties.

Make penalties worth 20 points ... teams will stop cheating and the only way to win is tries!

:-)

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:18:26 +1300 Michael Fitzgerald https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31642#post31642 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31642#post31642 Change the scoring system.
Count only trys and kicks can be added on a count back system if its a draw like cnrs in hockey.

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:00:55 +1300 Mikaere Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31637#post31637 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31637#post31637

Ah yes, that was why! Also his hakas were always OTT.

Um, I think that's the whole point of a haka. You don't perform a posture dance with the intention of maintaining a sense of humility.

I'm so glad that SA won. The thought of England mangling their way to…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:55:43 +1300 FletcherB https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31632#post31632 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31632#post31632 Re: Banks, Eden Park, etc.

I'm no Banks supporter, but I'm also no Rugby-Head either, and him wanting to not put rate-payers money towards Eden Park is fine in my book....

But, why did we find this out the day after he was elected?
Surely, politicians seeking election should advertise…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:38:24 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31624#post31624 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31624#post31624 Just in case we think we're the only ones in disarray, check this from a SA rugby mailing list a friend of mine is on:

"The Springboks Last Hoorah"

The game has left an empty aftertaste. The forward exchanges were ferocious enough but there is nothing much left to savour.…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:34:20 +1300 Bob Munro https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31622#post31622 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31622#post31622

If you were like me it was because he was wearing his shirt unbuttoned quite a way with an over-sized bone carving while making excuses for why his team lost.

Ah yes, that was why! Also his hakas were always OTT.

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:11:59 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31621#post31621 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31621#post31621 BTW best quote i heard this weekend:
As i walked into the pub to watch England (I put Britain above, my bad) play South Africa, the TV3 commentary team were still talking about New Zealand being knocked out. Andrew Mehrtens said "We probably weren't the best team in the competition"…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:41 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31620#post31620 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31620#post31620

But then, we sent a bunch of rugby players and they lost. I guess it's different when you send "gods" and they still lose.

Yes we have quite a bit of humble pie to get through yet

Or you are experiencing what most New Zealanders felt about the game. Instant…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:05:47 +1300 Bob Munro https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31607#post31607 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31607#post31607

But then, we sent a bunch of rugby players and they lost. I guess it's different when you send
gods and they still lose.

Yes we have quite a bit of humble pie to get through yet. I suppose England advanced much further than even their most optimistic supporters could…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:22:18 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31603#post31603 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31603#post31603 I hate to defend Banks, but all he's doing is refusing to spend his voters money on Eden Park. And why shouldn't the voters of Auckland decide there are better things to spend their money on than subsidising the wealthy, corporate sponsored, NZRFU?

Incidentally, I'm English. We lost a rugby…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:56 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31602#post31602 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31602#post31602

I don't know how many registered voters there are in NZ, but Banks got 45,387 votes.
That's over 1% of the total population of NZ.
I think you might have forgotten to multiply by 100?

It was a holiday ...

Fixed.

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:45:36 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31595#post31595 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31595#post31595

A mayor with the votes of 0.019% of New Zealand's registered voters has thrown a spanner in the works

I don't know how many registered voters there are in NZ, but Banks got 45,387 votes.

That's over 1% of the total population of NZ.

I think you might have forgotten…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:17:00 +1300 Charles Mabbett https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31578#post31578 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31578#post31578 The confusion over Eden Park is only one aspect of the huge job that looms in ensuring that the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand is a success.

As Brian Gaynor pointed out in his column in the Weekend Herald, there's is little demonstrable reason to have confidence in the…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:59:23 +1300 Julian Melville https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31569#post31569 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31569#post31569

Anybody else get a jolt when the words "New Zealand 2011" lit up at Stade de France by way of conclusion to Rugby World Cop 2007?

You made it all the way to then? I was already off making the coffee shortly after half time and didn't come back. What…

]]> Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:08:56 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31568#post31568 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-all-been-said/?p=31568#post31568 Discussion from blog post.

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