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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						No worries, Geoff.  I've had that mistake my whole life &mdash; I'm over being offended!
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>who is dis David Hayward character?</p></blockquote><p>Grovel, grovel, apology, apology, sack-cloth and ashes, get me my hair-shirt... of course I meant the incomparable, incredible, desirable David Haywood!!</p>
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				<title>Kirsten Brethouwer</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's nice to be part of an audience where you're not obliged to politely applaud, where you can yell and throw things (two of my favourite pastimes). It's a powerful experience when the audience can transform a lame melodrama into a hilarious comedy.</p></blockquote><p>I'm all for movie audiences being raucous.…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Social satirist slap...</strong></p><blockquote><p>There is whimsy aplenty on PAS!!<br />Check out David Hayward for starters.</p></blockquote><p>who is dis David Hayward character?<br />I'll get <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Peter_Wimsey" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lord Peter Wimsey</a> onto the case...</p><p>I think you mean the incomparable <br /><a href="http://publicaddress.net/default,3564.sm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">David Haywood</a>...</p><p>Just <em>Sayering...</em><br />:- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:27:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Robyn: just because women were shouting out and recognising the sexist bits doesn't make the film any less misogynistic.</p></blockquote><p>No, and much as I loved <em>Once Upon A Time in America</em>, <em>The Red Shoes</em> and <em>Senso</em> an awe-inspiring amount of craft and technical skill doesn't make a, shall we say,…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Another thought on The Room and sexism. Yeah, it's sexist, but due to its cult status, the film has been gone over with a finetooth comb by its audiences. Every bit of sexism is called out and mercilessly mocked.</p><p>Compare that with your average Hollywood film, where little sexist moments…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:50:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Chamberlain</title>
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						<p>@Jake, thanks for mentioning the Prince Charles sells out early &ndash; was thinking of heading down tomorrow.</p><p>I'm not sure if Wiseau is misogynist or not; it certainly struck me that he was quite clearly working out his own issues in the film (especially with the 'and now you're sorry!…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Danyl, I'm afraid the word 'whimsical' reminds me of librarians doing Lady Gaga parodies, and is therefore verboten.
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Oi, hang on a minute, mate! There is whimsy aplenty on PAS!! Check out David Hayward for starters.</p><p>The problem with watching bad films is that it displaces time you could be spending watching good films.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Geez Danyl &ndash; where'd that mouthfart come from?</p><p>Go check some of the other threads- and have a nice cuppa and a wee lie-down, eh?</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Blimmin' hell. I can't believe I've started a discussion about gender politics in The Room of all things.</p></blockquote><p>It's Public Address System. If you're not turning every single subject &ndash; no matter how fun and whimsical &ndash; into a joyless discussion about gender politics you're not using it properly.</p>
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				<title>Ant Timpson</title>
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						<p>Jose. I think you're Dead wrong. The fans are laughing at her acting/ character &amp; not the real person. Just go see the show with Any Of the cast and crew present and then tell me the fans are being cruel. </p><p>THE RAPE OF LISA sounds like some new andrea dworkin…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						@Jake &ndash; I saw the Room at the Prince of Wales a few months back. It was pretty hectic in there, but good fun all the same.  The amount of people that dress up is quite amazing
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				<title>Joshua Drummond</title>
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						Awesome. The guy with the Jake Heke line was me. I'm glad you liked it &ndash; I don't remember the line getting a particularly big laugh on the night. I think my friends and I might have started another Room meme as well: we started saying "Om nom nom" whenever…
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				<title>Jose Barbosa</title>
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						<p>Blimmin' hell. I can't believe I've started a discussion about gender politics in The Room of all things.</p><p>But ...</p><p>Ant: I don't think the actress playing Lisa is adored by thousands. I think she's being laughed at by thousands.</p><p>Robyn: just because women were shouting out and recognising the…</p>
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				<title>halonineteen</title>
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						<p>Just a quick two cents:</p><p>Last month I spent an afternon with Wiseau questioning him about the film and getting a feeling for the man. I also spent a good few minutes helping him find his car in the car park, which he'd lost. It took Greg Sestero and I…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He's been quoted in the AV Club saying that the trouble with women is that they're manipulative beings.</p></blockquote><p>Do you think he's oppressing women? Or are people &ndash; both women and men &ndash; laughing at his dorky perspective on relationships? I reckon he's been dicked over several times and it's…</p>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Here's a story just for you Aging Gen-Xer Doesn't Find Bad Movies Funny Anymore</p></blockquote><p>Nah &ndash; I still find bad films plenty funny. I've just seen so many (so, <strong>so</strong> many) that I have, I'm a little surprised to find, turned into a bit of a wanker about them. The…</p>
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				<title>Ant Timpson</title>
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						Martin. I'll read it when Im off my phone. My world may shatter!
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				<title>Jose Barbosa</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Here's a story just for you Aging Gen-Xer Doesn't Find Bad Movies Funny Anymore</p></blockquote><p>I'll be quiet now. *spends three hours staring into mirror*</p>
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				<title>Ant Timpson</title>
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						<p>Jose nice to be here!  to tell you the truth I think reality may lie in between. The guy is a collossal narcissist but also affects childlike behavioural touches. Imagine a toddlers perspective about women in general !</p><p>I think if lisa was exploited then she certainly came off better…</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>turns out I'm a massive snob when it comes to bad movies, and have no time for this sort of cinematic slumming</p></blockquote><p>Here's a story just for you  <a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/aging-genxer-doesnt-find-bad-movies-funny-anymore,1451/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Aging Gen-Xer Doesn't Find Bad Movies Funny Anymore</a></p><p>Well, it describes me pretty well anyway.</p>
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				<title>Jose Barbosa</title>
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						<p>Hi Ant, lovely to hear from you. I'm sorry I missed Enter The Void, it sounded amazing.</p><p>I think what you're saying is that I should stop being so naive about the casting couch. Fair point, but if you're trying to tell me Wiseau isn't a misogynist and instead some…</p>
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				<title>Ant Timpson</title>
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						<p>Jose I love your insight but it appears wildly divergent from the reality of the alien that is Tommy Wiseau. I think what you read as misogynistic is just a woefully inadequate attempt at dramatic human interaction.   </p><p>If anything he's an overblown romantic with all the finesse of a histrionic…</p>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<p>I said <a href="http://variegated.monkeyfluids.com/post/747683451/c-beams-glittering-in-the-dark" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> at the time; I stand by it.</p><p>(Summary for the link-averse: it turns out I'm a massive snob when it comes to bad movies, and have no time for this sort of cinematic slumming. There is, quite likely, something horribly wrong with me.)</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Generally when people say something is so bad it's good they're less than half right. I'll watch Best Worst Movie, but I won't watch Troll 2.</p></blockquote><p>I see what you're saying &ndash; the 'so bad it's good' routine is mostly just a stupid hipster affectation. But <em>The Room</em> is different.…</p>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						It was my naked back, if it'd been my belly it'd also have been projected on my cock and balls. I think I should revisit that short, there's a lot of potential for hilarity there.
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				<title>3410</title>
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						Burn!
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yet more good reasons I'm glad I skipped it.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I don't think you'd find much to enjoy in The Room. Though there was a strange scene where I was reminded of that film you made where you projected <em>Two Girls, One Cup</em> on your naked belly.</p>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<p>Generally when people say something is so bad it's good they're less than half right. I'll watch Best Worst Movie, but I won't watch Troll 2.</p><p>"But it's so bad you'll laugh and laugh! And oh did I mention the spoons?!" Doesn't do it for me.</p><blockquote><p>The sex scenes mostly…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						That is an accurate description, yes. As long as you add the red roses to the whole thing. Which is what complicates Jose's observation, for me. Is it really possible for something to be simply misogynistic when the auteur is so unconsciously self-absorbed that the sex scenes consist almost entirely…
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and Tommy Wiseau gives tips on shooting a 'sex tape'.</p></blockquote><p>The sex scenes mostly consist of Wiseau's muscular, pitted ass filling the screen as he thrusts up and down in slow-motion to awful R &amp; B music while grunting like a dying ox, with his pelvis positioned somewhere above his…</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This would have been right down her alley.</p></blockquote><p>As long as she was tossing a football around with her friends while they were all wearing tuxedos.</p><p>Oh, and <a href="http://www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-tips-for-making-a-sex-tape-by-tommy-wiseau_1p.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tommy Wiseau gives tips on shooting a 'sex tape'.</a></p>
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						<blockquote><p>Robyn Gallagher blogs beautifully at robyngallagher.com</p></blockquote><p>That she does. Lovely review.</p>
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				<title>Cecelia</title>
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						I haven't seen The Room but I enjoyed your take on it. I once met a young woman who was doing a thesis on spectatorship. This would have been right down her alley.
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				<title>Jose Barbosa</title>
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						<p>I loved how the front door on the first floor was also on the second floor. Kicks Inception's arse for dream-like brain architecture, I reckon.</p><p>On a more serious note (warning: party pooper alert), I'm a little uncomfortable about the film and it's cult status. Wiseau is a bit of…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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