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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oooo, you clever, clever girl!
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:50:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Jackie, if it's bugging you, that would be <em>entomology</em> then, wouldn't it?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:27:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>K.J. Aldous</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>" ... the surface of a catenoid has a mean curvature of zero ... " Are you sure? A catenary's curvature does not change sign &ndash; the second derivative of the function is the function itself, which is everwhere >= 0.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I'm talking about mean curvature…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:48:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I don't know what a catenary is, nor do I care, for that matter. You pointy headed nerdy boys just have to spoil it all with your discussion of etymology, don't you? Eh? Just leave a great piece of writing alone, would ya????
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:03:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>K. J. Aldous</title>
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						" ... the surface of a catenoid has a mean curvature of zero ...  " Are you sure? A catenary's curvature does not change sign &ndash; the second derivative of the function is the function itself, which is everwhere >= 0. Incidentally, "cosy catenaries" would be more poetically rendered as…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:07:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"hills humped in cosy catenaries"</p></blockquote><p>A catenary is, by etymology, the shape of a suspended <strong>chain</strong>, so it's hard to think of a better word to describe the shape of a series of little mountains (by contrast, "range" doesn't suggest any specific shape, so much as extent of variation).<br />But…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:48:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>Kerry Weston</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>You know I've only ever got on a plane twice in my life? I was hoping for a third trip, sometime in the not too distant, but kathleen kennedy's eyeballs might be my undoing.</p></blockquote><p>Don't let me put you off!  Planes are wonderful fun &mdash; I'd even…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:05:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>K. J. Aldous</title>
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						"... hills humped in cosy catenaries" It's not immediately clear why hills would assume this form. Do you have any references on the topic?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:22:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Kathleen Kennedy's eyeballs actually exploded when her plane hit the ground," my mother had told me.</p></blockquote><p>Someone pass the mop....!! </p><p>You know I've only ever got on a plane twice in my life? I was hoping for a third trip, sometime in the not too distant, but kathleen kennedy's eyeballs…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:35:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Russell &ndash; Yes. I was just having a quiet sample of some of the Laugavulin 16 year single malt I picked up from the attached shop. It has totally made me re-evaluate what smooth means
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:06:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>bob daktari</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>The original PO Building I am sure is gone now &ndash; it was falling down and wasn't worth maintaining if memory serves...</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for the correction, Bob &mdash; I've emended that section of the post!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:38:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>This time of year my knees &amp; elbows tell me to move back home to Blenheim or anywhere further north than Christchurch.</p><p>If you're inside in Blenheim you can only tell the season by the colour of the grass on the Whither Hills &ndash; Green is winter, brown is summer, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:30:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>By the way, I think Southland is the nicest part of NZ by a very long way. I'd be interested if anyone can anyone nominate anywhere (in NZ) nicer?</p></blockquote><p>I fear my reporting of any alternative won't compare with your's however, I'll nominate the Golden Bay area as my particular…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:06:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>By the way, I think Southland is the nicest part of NZ by a very long way. I'd be interested if anyone can anyone nominate anywhere (in NZ) nicer?</p></blockquote><p>I've never spent more than a few days there, but Central Otago has to be one of the most visually stunning,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:53:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>@Ben</p><blockquote><p>I was in the original Oban a few weeks back ...</p></blockquote><p>Tell me you visited the distillery.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:51:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						Its been years since I was last there there are a number of bachs or cribs that belong to members of my family. All of these structures were built after the PO had ceased operating from Ulva and had moved to Oban. There is still one house (well small dwelling)…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:33:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>Sorry not to have replied earlier &mdash; had a fractious baby all morning.  But delighted that you guys have enjoyed my ramblings.</p><p>Apologies for visiting homesickness upon your mother, Danielle.  Despite only living there for five months we feel rather homesick for Southland as well.</p><p><strong>bob daktari</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>I spent…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						My mum, born and bred in Invercargill, says this piece made her homesick. Well played!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:32:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>you might want to count the number of buildings on Ulva</p><p>I spent my childhood years summering on Ulva... magic place</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:00:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>I thought a bus ride around an island with less than 5kms of road a bit 'rich' &amp; went to their charming local museum instead.<br />Love the transposed error in horseshoe bay and 1/2 moon bay having been confused.</p><p>What of the building &amp; property boom on the island?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:31:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I was in the original Oban a few weeks back and was commenting on the beautiful islands/ferry rides around that way when both of us (Kiwis) realised neither of us had actually been to Stewart Island. But with the sales job done above I'll have to make the effort
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:00:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						As ever, David, evocative and beautiful prose you write. I feel privileged that we get to read it.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:52:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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						wonderful writing david
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:27:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>You say it so well David, indeed evocative</p><p>When I realised what the weather would be like when you were due to cross I rather hoped you might pospone </p><p>But it is worth it, just for the views if nothing else</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:12:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Capewell</title>
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						What an evocative piece of writing, thanks a lot. :)
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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