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				<title>Sj</title>
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						<p>Hi David. Great to see you've picked up your pen and are wielding it with all the old power and panache &ndash; and some! The Norway on my nerves piece was classic magic-from-mayhem Haywood; I felt like I was there, only without all the baggage. </p><p>And all credit to you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:49:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger Lacey</title>
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						<p><q>You’ve just reminded me of Kiwi Ranch, near Hell’s Gate outside Rotorua.</q><br />I spent a May school holiday at Kiwi Ranch in the mid 70's. It was getting a bit run down by then, half the activities were broken or out of bounds including the flying fox and monorail. The…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:33:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> Sticking timid kids into environments that freak them out</q></p><p>Ballroom dancing ... shudder</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:17:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Damn, just ran out of cigars and the Wild Turkey is low.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:41:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Would that have been Nunhead Cemetery by any chance</q></p><p>Close, but your cigar is withheld on this occasion. And not just because those things are deadly. Deadly, I tells ya! Our nanny state overladies frown severely on such pleasures!</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:27:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Sticking timid kids into environments that freak them out can show them their inner strength, or it can scar them for life.</q></p><p>Yes, I've never got over drama classes from childhood :-)</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Mind you, before I was 18 months old </q></p><p> was four when I broke my arm and sustained a pretty solid concussion when I slipped while running around the edge of a good old tractor-tyre sandpit. Damn thing must have been all of 30cm high. I think I was in hospital…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:59:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q> Sticking timid kids into environments that freak them out can show them their inner strength, or it can scar them for life.</q></p><p>That's not limited to timid kids. Every kid will have things that freak them out, and it's foolish to blind yourself to the difference between thrilled and terrified.…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						Not to mention, different kids have different pleasures.  One of mine is a future mountain climber; the other is a future health and safety inspector.  Sticking timid kids into environments that freak them out can show them their inner strength, or it can scar them for life.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:23:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I kind of took the obvious pleasure we all took in putting our bodies in harms way as a given. </q></p><p>That's not the only pleasure I mean. I'm referring also to things that aren't pleasurable <em>because</em> they are dangerous. A child might like, for instance, climbing a tree, because the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 17:07:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Balances of harms and pleasures.</q></p><p>I kind of took the obvious pleasure we all took in putting our bodies in harms way as a given. </p><p>hmmm actively courting pain ... which thread am I in again?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:36:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>And that is of course the point. This is actually a balance between preventing all possible harm and allowing children to learn by (sometimes painful) mistakes</q></p><p>I'd go further and say for at least the 10th time on this site that considering only the balance of harms is blinkered in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:07:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<p><q>I totally disagree. </q></p><p>I guess I wasn't writing very clearly, since I largely agree with the rest of your post, particularly the "talkback-grade cliche" thing, which is the guts of what I was trying to say.</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>To me, the cry of “we wrap our kids in cotton wool” is up there with zeitgeist cliches like “political correctness gone mad” and “boys are hurt by the feminised teaching environment”.</q></p><p>As the mother of two boys and stepmother of one, and feminist from day one (brought up by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:22:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>To me, the cry of “we wrap our kids in cotton wool” is up there with zeitgeist cliches like “political correctness gone mad” and “boys are hurt by the feminised teaching environment”.</q></p><p>As the mother of two boys and stepmother of one, and feminist from day one (brought up by…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:21:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q> Lack of free play isn’t just a question of supervision, it’s also something schools and parents (more so overseas) do to cram in as much formal teaching as possible into children – music lessons and extra tuition and so forth is part of the middle-class scramble.</q></p><p>Yup. In this house…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						I guess it's my constitutional contraryism to argue against prevailing wisdom going on here.  To me, the cry of "we wrap our kids in cotton wool" is up there with zeitgeist cliches like "political correctness gone mad" and "boys are hurt by the feminised teaching environment".  Maybe they have a…
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>How the hell are we supposed to feed all these extra people who are going to be around because they didn’t smoke, didn’t drink, didn’t fall off a high building, didn’t drive drunk, didn’t take drugs, didn’t cut their heads off with a chainsaw because they didn’t see themselves?.</q><br />They…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>if we have the balance right</q></p><p>And that is of course the point. This is actually a balance between preventing all possible harm and allowing children to learn by (sometimes painful) mistakes. There is evidence now suggesting children protected from harm have a poorer body awareness, that is they don't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:15:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						David, Ian and other Chch folk:   Talking of young 'uns, I am doing another round of my talk "In Love With Shirley Temple; Cultural Memory, Hollywood ... and Christchurch" for the CPIT research Forum tomorrow (Thursday), around 1.15pm  in L233 (second floor main building on Madras).  All are invited, apparently.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> rubber matting under them, than hard clay</q></p><p>pfft hanging upside down by my legs from monkey bars over concrete and falling on my head never did me no harm harm harm harm</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						In Christchurch a few years back the council holiday programmes had to cut out most of the free play in the schedule because many of the kids couldn't cope with having unstructured time. They did not know what to do with themselves. That is very, very sad and worrying for…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:06:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Oh perleeze.<br />take a friggin concrete pill and harden up. How the hell are we supposed to feed all these extra people who are going to be around because they didn’t smoke, didn’t drink, didn’t fall off a high building, didn’t drive drunk, didn’t take drugs, didn’t cut their heads…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q> We still have a high rate of childhood injury by international comparison.</q></p><p>With London, New York, Tokyo? Where my friends' kids were unable to go out without an adult until they were 10 or 12 and as a result spent most of their lives  doing inside things. I'm not arguing…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						I know it's currently fashionable to complain about kids being coated in cotton wool these days, but I'd much rather play on the cool bright plasticy playgrounds that are around a lot today than the jagged rusty broken-arm machines of my own childhood.  Burma bridges are as much fun when…
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>Polly Fila, don’t she have an MBA? Must be an expert. </p><p>While I'm spleening: designer high-vis vests and hard hats. Pink if you please. Fug off.<br />And the Deputy Mayor who stormed around town in a 4WD ute on  the ratepayer with "Operation Suburb" and her name in large letters…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Yeah. I am totally sick, totally I tell you, of seeing people in hard hats and Hi-Viz because somebody got the pollyfila out. Mental it makes me go already.
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						OSH, HR: a plague on their houses! How long will this managerialism last? We in Christchurch are especially cursed as planeloads of New Zealand’s finest box-tickers have invaded post-earthquakes “to help with the rebuild” and “think outside the Square” (which isn’t hard because the Square ain’t square any more). I…
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Won’t some body think of the children?.</q></p><p><a href="http://rethinkingchildhood.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This guy is</a>.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Ain't it sad to know that we were the last generation to have actual non-structured OSH approved fun.<br />Won't some body think of the children?.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>There was a large abandoned graveyard a couple of streets away that served admirably as a playground.</q></p><p>Would that have been Nunhead Cemetery by any chance, the one with the inverted torches at the gate that made id speshly spooky?.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Growing up in Sydenham, I spent lots of time playing with trains...<br />Riding rolling stock in the shunting yards or catching a ride to the gas works or Addington.<br />Plus lots of climbing to great heights on the rash of high rises being built about the town then, scaling the…</p>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<q>We used to do that on sand dunes. The angle of a sand dune is fairly constant at between 30 and 35 degrees. So, you run as fast as you can and leap over the edge in the most spectacular fashion. The faster you ran the further out you would…</q>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>Asbestos got a bad rap in the eighties because some doctor said it might kill you in 20 years</q></p><p>Nobody told anybody here. Asbestos rooftiles are very common in China. Once helped my father in law put a new roof on the sheep pen, then immediately changed my clothes and…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>The exploratory habits didn't really go away for quite a while.</q></p><p>My exploratory habits took a minor hit one day in Changsha in 1999 when I realised I'd accidentally walked into an army barracks. There were no signs or sentries at the gate, and the camouflage gear on the washing…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						The whole 'lack of open spaces to explore in' thing bothers me quite a bit.  My own parents were quite ingenious when we were growing up in suburban London.  There was a large abandoned graveyard a couple of streets away that served admirably as a playground.  My sister and I…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Maybe it was asbestos, then. Shrapnel 20 ft in the air. Fortunately no injuries.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Very interesting question.<br />If I may be as bold as to offer an explanation of why it is interesting then I shall.</p><p>The  "Fibrolite" would heat up, considerably, and expel any moisture contained in the sheet, there is often a lot in "Fibrolite" as it has a rather high rate…</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						Just on the comments on protective gear making things more extreme. I read a good article a while back (can't find it now) focused on the north face of the Eiger. Back in the 40s it was death trap that took three days to climb. It is now a two…
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>I recommend the little NZ movie Kiwi Flyer.</q></p><p>You've just reminded me of Kiwi Ranch, near Hell's Gate outside Rotorua.</p><p>They had some of the most hair-raising activities a parent of three children, now of a similar age, can imagine. The Magic carpet was literally a Persian rug towed behind…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						'I wonder what will happen if we put a sheet of fibrolite on that outdoor fire?'
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:40:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I think the spirit of all this is still alive in extreme sports. Protective gear has meant that kids are just more extreme. Their standard gear is much better than what we used to have. But still, you get guys doing this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bGyrGuh--Y" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bGyrGuh--Y</a></p><p>Kudos for his exclamation! Most people it's…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>Fact: Ruth Richardson is a bona fide member!!</q></p><p> Do you mind! I'm meant to be making dinner.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:24:48 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I’m just a bit rubbish at that stuff.</q></p><p> But you're obviously good at other stuff! Having grown up with an ace builder/ all-purpose Kiwi bloke  as a father, it took decades for me to know that it is fine not to be able to change the car's oil, concrete a…</p>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>These days have sadly fast disappeared……</p><p>Unfortunately, H&amp;S has reached all the way to Scott Base. I have been reliably informed that the mid winter skinny dip into the sea through a hole in the ice is now taboo.</p><p>Me? I am a qualified member of the Lake Vanda Swim Club.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:10:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>We used to do that on sand dunes. </q></p><p>Old-school playground swings were the bizzo. With a little practice you could wind up and let go at just the right point in the arc so that you launched up and out and achieved enough height to go quite some distance.</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						It's interesting how 'small-town/country bits of even big cities were a few decades back. Growing up in such settings is a grand way to have narrow escapes. We underestimate the value of 'wild' spaces- even the scrappy eucalypts and tangle of vines next-door to my first primary school (we called…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:52:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>    “don’t bleed on the carpet”. Should be the title of a Kiwi parenting manual.</q></p><p>I'm thinking illustrated in the syle of those "where did I come from" books. But yes, it would sell based purely on the title.</p><p>But these days it more likely to be "don't eat that" or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:51:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<q>I’d open the door to be greeted by “don’t bleed on the carpet”.</q>Should be the title of a Kiwi parenting manual.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Do it right and you can drop more than 5m and land on a steep slope that promptly collapses giving you a nice slidy ride to the bottom.</q></p><p>We used to do that on sand dunes. The angle of a sand dune is fairly constant at between 30 and 35…</p>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						One of my favourite memories of childhood must be just after I started school. We had a new house, and many days I'd come home from school,and my mother would have seen me walking up the street. So I'd open the door to be greeted by "don't bleed on the…
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I recommend the little NZ movie Kiwi Flyer</q></p><p>It is quite good. But they picked the wrong hill, there are much better hills in Nelson for that. Some even have nice run-out areas at the bottom. Not the best one, that has a stop sign. But often, if you time…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 13:13:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>That other brew with iodine and potassium permangate….I think…that goes bang when it dries. :-)  :-)  :-)</q></p><p>Being a smart arse, because everyone likes a smart arse. It is Iodine crystals and Anhydrous Ammonia and the resulting compound is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_triiodide " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Nitrogen triiodide</a></p><p>Oh how we laughed at the teacher…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:49:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						<p>On reflection, we're all bloody lucky to have made it this far.</p><p>Perhaps the cure for being 17 is indeed to turn 18 after all.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:08:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>ChrisW</title>
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						<p><q>Sceptic tank? that's good.</q><br />Essential for scientists &ndash; but one has to be careful in presentation of the overflow.</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						Sceptic tank?  that's good.
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				<title>ChrisW</title>
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						<q>sceptic tank overflows</q> Sometimes I find my sceptic tank overflows and I ask "You sure of that?" or even call "Bullshit!" :-)
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>Two ends missing.</q></p><p>Ouch. Since we're making each other squeamish, one of the <em>in stitches</em> incidence involved working on my BMX bike in bare feet. Stood on the each of the open metal toolbox, resulting in a semi-detached big toe.</p><p>What a tool.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> It’s the one that starts where the Konini Road reservoir is now, right?</q></p><p>Yup, but there is another stream that joins it, that starts right up where Konini rd meets the Scenic drive. That's where my home was.</p><p>Those diggings at primary school were great ... and then there was…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> the same stream</q></p><p>Yup that's the one. This was back before the bottom half of Konini Rd became subdivisions so it was mostly bush all the way down.</p><p>I learnt so much in that bush, how to slide down mud banks and <em>avoid</em> the trees, how to recognise bush lawyer,…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> I’m just a bit rubbish at that stuff.</q></p><p>I am too. But lack of money forced me to learn that despite lack of natural skill I could get there if I went slowly enough and was willing to accept that the first attempt would end up in the bin. A…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q> “Good peeing, Mama! HOORAY!” </q><br />Those moments make parenting worthwhile, even if you are in the toilet with the children and the zoo with the possibility of the neighbour or meter man being invited in by one of your helpers.</p>
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						<q>Chop</q>I feel sick now.
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I recommend the little NZ movie Kiwi Flyer. It's about kids in Nelson and their trolley derby. Lots of innovative technologies, dangerous risk taking, bullies (adult and children), and beautiful scenes of Nelson sometimes from the perspective of going downhill at speed.
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						A whole bunch of extremely amusing stories on this thread, I must say.  Thank you all so much!  I've laughed, I've cried, I've felt nauseous.  It's been, as they say, a journey.  A journey in which Paul Brislen has definitely one-upped me in the realm of "taking your daughter into…
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p><q>Sticking four prongs of a garden fork through four toes, <br />tidily two on each foot.</q><br /> Forkin 'ell.</p><p>Two kids chopping. (Wifey's younger sisters). Small tomahawk. Wood chopping block. Tractor shed. Farm. Slightly older one is chopping. Other one wants a go. Slightly older one won't give up the axe. Littly…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>is it any drier in the Powder Room?</strong><br /><q>...The Trough.<br />“EWWWWW” we all shriek together.<br />Eventually we depart the mensroom firm in our agreement that we shall never speak of it again.</q><br />quite an arc from the plight of the trough through to the blight of plighted troth...<br />;- )…</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						My angels when they were three months old (and 9 weeks prem) would settle down to sleep with a growly voice like  Bob Dylan or Rod Stewart. If we put on a female singing lullaby, the boys  would howl and weep (and that was very unusual for them).
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>responding to a request to ‘play music on the computer now!</q></p><p>Hehe, me too. Not dubstep, though, but the opening bars of Hunters and Collecters' Holy Grail or Bob Marley's Iron, Lion, Zion have my wee one doing her absolute best to pound whatever bed she's on into eternal submission.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:41:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>I feel your pain. Literally</q></p><p>+1.  The Word of Fear in our house is 'Again!'.  Demonstrating centrifugal force to Ms 3 by putting her in a basket and spinning round as fast as possible seemed like a good idea.  But not when the lesson needed repeating for the rest of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:20:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Susannah Shepherd</title>
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						<p><q>On rainy days, his preferred method of entertainment was to have me swing him in circles by his heels, and then flip him yelling into the air, so that he somersaulted once (or preferably twice) before crashing onto the settee.</q></p><p>For your future reference, my uncle (and brother) would advise…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 20:35:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Swain</title>
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						<p>Snap?! I grew up near the Glen Eden end of a stream that led to Titirangi/Konini.</p><p>I'm not sure if we're referring to the same stream, but in any case you've just sparked a whole lot of reminiscing about getting up to mischief in the bush out west.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:39:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						<p>You want bathroom horror stories?</p><p>Changing the nappy of a squirmy toddler in a cafe bathroom with highly polished concrete floors and no changing table. Kid bumps dirty nappy spilling contents onto the floor. I stand up to locate more paper towel, put my foot into the mess and immediately…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:24:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<q>I do have 50+ stitches in my leg to show for all this freedom, however.</q>I was the big sister who carried my little brother home from the wars. Stitches and mashed lips were run-of-the-mill. Highlights were him running smack into a metal carport pole: immediately unconscious with a purple egg-sized…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:22:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						Thank you for writing that family horror tale: I laughed until I cried.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:06:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>JacksonP</title>
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						<p><q>I mostly grew up in the northwestern suburbs of Christchurch, where there were plenty of undeveloped sections on which to get up to mischief</q></p><p>Similarly, we had free rein over the bush, cliffs and waterfalls around Whakatane’s Hillcrest suburb. I recall from the age of 8-9 we only really went…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:58:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Eventually we depart the mensroom firm in our agreement that we shall never speak of it again.</q></p><p>I am horrified <em>and</em> helpless with mirth.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:21:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I realized only recently that the family changing rooms at pools are actually meant for father-daughter and mother-son combos. I'm just hogging it, when my boys and I are perfectly safe to expose to the perpetual shower hogging old men soaping their balls, of the standards men's changing room, and…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:03:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Brislen</title>
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						<p>Toileting with boys is one thing but with two girls...</p><p>I shall relate this tale on the basis that they're not reading it and nor is their mother.</p><p>Picture, if you will Dad with two daughters (3 and 6 I want to say) on a trip to the zoo. It's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:30:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I, too, was lucky enough to have tribes and wild spaces in my childhood.</q></p><p>Playing on the street with the local kids used to be thing when I was little. Lots of memories of swimming completely unsupervised at the beach (by which I mean we were supposed to go to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:30:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<p>My youngest saw me disengage the privacy lock on our bathroom with a breadknife one morning.  I made the mistake of closing it behind me later that day, and next thing I hear her bashing away at the paintwork with a knife she's retrieved from the drawer.  </p><p>I've learned to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:26:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>But she and Bob are growing up with a father who makes things. Real things, things they can touch and break and then watch him repair. It’s a kind of magic.</q></p><p>I feel the lack of being able to provide that for my boys. I think we faced some special…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:20:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Our home in Titirangi backed onto reserve. I could and did literally walk out the back door into the bush to randomly play.</q></p><p>I mostly grew up in the northwestern suburbs of Christchurch, where there were plenty of undeveloped sections on which to get up to mischief (such as hurling…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:14:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Carol Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>I, too, was lucky enough to have tribes and wild spaces in my childhood. </q></p><p>I may have mentioned this here previously, but my brother and I were turned loose to forage at the local dump, which was just round the corner. <br />And then there was the time the two of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 16:05:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>So this is where that horrible ALAC advert came from.</q><br />I always thought it came from <em>that</em> baby swinging scene with Donald Sutherland in Bertolucci's <em>1900</em> &ndash; shudder!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:41:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Unless I was very quick, Bob would clamber into the upper boughs, almost invisible in the greenery. “No, I’m not coming down. I’m living in this tree now. I don’t live in Christchurch any more.”</q></p><p>My older brother cured me of this annoying habit by the ingeniously simple method of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:37:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>My stomach turns in horror at the thought of my children doing what we used to do.</p><p>There was a pohutakawa tree that used to , and probably still does, hang out over a cliff, at least 10 metres above a stretch of hard flat rock next to the sea.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:42:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Less validating recently was my youngest discovering how to lock me into the toilet.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:41:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						My solution to having a child who won't stop talking until he falls asleep, and another child who won't go to bed without far too many stories, was to put them together. You can set your watch by their bedtime now.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:39:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Parental instructions issued from a lavatory are difficult to enforce; unnecessary lingering almost always leads to disaster.</p></blockquote><p>What amazes me is that you were ever left alone at all to... do your business. I often have an in-room audience of a preschooler, a toddler and a dog. The only advantage…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:39:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						Our home in Titirangi backed onto reserve. I could and did literally walk out the back door into the bush to randomly play. I remember following the stream down the valley to where I discovered eventually it emerged into the suburbia of Glen Eden and walking the 5 or so…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:30:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>I, too, was lucky enough to have tribes and wild spaces in my childhood. I’m not sure whether that served or actually generated an appetite for risky behaviour.</q></p><p>Same. My friend – now a prominent businessman (you know who you are) – and I owned the alleyway between our houses…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:20:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen R</title>
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						<p><q>As long as we were home for dinner, nobody really cared what we were doing.</q></p><p>The only time my Dad got upset was when we told him we'd been digging caves in the hillside next to the creek out the back of the neighbour's place.</p><p>That was the week that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:18:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>The tribe of kids I grew up with in my street used to play in the abandoned quarry across the back paddocks. Twenty foot high cliffs, and a big shed full of… quarry stuff. As long as we were home for dinner, nobody really cared what we were doing.</q></p><p>I,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:57:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>On rainy days, his preferred method of entertainment was to have me swing him in circles by his heels, and then flip him yelling into the air, so that he somersaulted once (or preferably twice) before crashing onto the settee. He would happily partake of this activity for hours.</q></p><p>So…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:47:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Aidan</title>
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						Great pic Russell!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:37:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Darling daughter. At one point, we got a bit nervous about filling in another set of ACC forms, in case we got a visit from CYPFS. </p><p>My mother didn't so much encourage me into danger as just not pay much attention if I wasn't around. She used to gratefully leave…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:35:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Elder son returning from low earth orbit, many years ago.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:13:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Aidan</title>
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						I feel your pain. Literally. The adorable Aardman movie “Chicken Run” morphed into “Chicken Pie Machine” game. Haven’t done it much in the last few years, but when pushed into it the other day I almost killed myself – my son is now almost 12 and he is BLOODY HEAVY.…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:51:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>Hoot. What’s a few painkillers betwen father and son when you can be a launchpad.</p><p><q>Did your parents allow you to make fireworks or similar? </q><br />When my 14 yr old stepson came back from Oz to live with our family at 12 hours notice, we had no idea what to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:34:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jono Baddiley</title>
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						<p><q>Did your parents allow you to make fireworks or similar? Do you let your children?</p><p>Give me something to cheer me up when I awake to a damp English Monday.</q></p><p>I once set fire to my parents hedge. Dad said to use a bit of petrol to lift an oil…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Robison also of course literarily threw his son around a lot when he was little. One of the early chapters relates the various types and names of propulsion. The mildest was making the roundabout in the local park go as fast as it could. Of course this made Robison senior…
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						My father had a couple of bullets he "brought back from the war". It was a large calibre short cartridge bullet. He was foolish. One day he "showed" me how to whack it with a hammer and a nail and make it go bang. I was less than 5 years…
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						The action tales in Raising Cubby are too numerous to mention. John Elder Robison's special interest that developed into a business is restoring old British and European cars eg Land Rovers, Rolls Royces and Jags (he has a  wonderful story of taking Chairman Mao's BMW with its blacked out windows…
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><q>I am now reading how Cubby made his own fireworks when he was a child.</q></p><p>Oh, I did that!  I was an irresponsible child as well as an irresponsible parent.</p><p>I'm heading off to bed now (midnight in the UK), but I'd be interested in tales of irresponsible and dangerous…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>I'm just reading one of the best memoirs about child rearing ever &ndash; it is by 'Aspergian' John Elder Robison and is his story of raising his own son. The title is: Raising Cubby: a father and son's adventures with Asperger's, trains, tractors and high explosives.</p><p>As a teenager the…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Her two-year-old’s life has been packed full of building, plumbing, electrical work.</q></p><p>But she and Bob are growing up with a father who <em>makes things</em>. Real things, things they can touch and break and then watch him repair. It's a kind of magic.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Glad to be of service, Mr Norkington!</q></p><p>I think the two of you are close enough for you to call him "Norks".</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Few things are more relaxing than listening to someone else deal with your protesting child.</q></p><p>A similar principle operates when your children have become somewhat older and you are within public earshot of a parent trying to manage a difficult young child or children.</p><p>You <em>could</em> be annoyed. But, really,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:39:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						Glad to be of service, Mr Norkington!
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				<title>Nat Torkington</title>
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						<p>BRAVO!  LIKE +1 FAVOURITE FRIEND SUBSCRIBE PLEASE SEND ME INFORMATION ON YOUR PRODUCTS AND/OR SERVICES!</p><p>(this is how we say "thank you, you wonderful man" on the Internet)</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><q>Now if 'hanger' had been given to aviation enthusiast Gary Numan, he would've had it as 'hangar'...</q></p><p>Thanks for that, Ian!  Now corrected (it's amazing how mistakes can get past).</p><p>I figure I'm already screwed in the resthome stakes, so I'm now operating on the "hung for a sheep" system…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Wonderful tale, as always David, but you do realise that Bob and Polly will read all these one day, and <em>then</em> decide on your resthome...</p><p><q>I believe the spelling was subcontracted to Noddy Holder from Slade.</q><br />Now if 'hanger' had been given to aviation enthusiast Gary Numan, he would've had…</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						Oh, and ‘pozidriv’ is really spelt that way (not ‘pozidrive’ as you might logically think).  I believe the spelling was subcontracted to Noddy Holder from <em>Slade</em>.
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						This piece was written at the request of a Public Address reader.  He probably wishes to remain anonymous (although I can reveal that his name rhymes with Tat Norkington).  All complaints should be directed to him.
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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