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		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Southerly: It&#039;s Sad that You&#039;re Leaving Us, Steve</title>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Yay the kindie teachers! <br />And good luck aDavid- sounds exciting!<br />With regard to research funding: been working with Simon Brown from nanoclusterdevices at UC . He's got quite an interesting take on it, and would be worthwhile chatting to. Current govt policy seems still to contain a measure of "we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:36:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>I have a PhD and 15 years experience and I get paid less than a kindy teacher</blockquote> hmm, I'm a kindergarten teacher. Not quite sure what to make of that remark, but I won't take it too badly. I could go off on one, but you've obviously never taught 3…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:54:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Harold Haywood</title>
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						Best wishes for your future venture, David.  I think sometimes it is a good idea to have a change in work.  I remember when I first came to NZ and started on my first job, an old chippy said to me: "The building trade's no good in this country. If…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:20:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>dc_red wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Aren't university scientists compelled to pass on $1.15 overhead for every $1 of research funding?</p></blockquote><p>To clarify: my estimation of $0.50 per $1.00 is <strong>before</strong> the money is delivered to the successful bidder, i.e. the cost of getting the money from MoRST to the research organization.</p><p>The research…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:46:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To extrapolate from the CRI I used to work for &mdash; I estimate that it must cost around $0.50 in administration for each $1.00 awarded (which doesn't strike me as very efficient).</p></blockquote><p>Aren't university scientists compelled to pass on $1.15 overhead for every $1 of research funding? I guess it's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:50:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						Yes, it's quite widely celebrated. Errm, by some people at least.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:00:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>Oh... very sorry to have been absent from the discussion.  I've been catching up on the lawn-mowing and hedge-trimming which various ailments have prevented me from doing the last couple of weekends.</p><p>Thanks to everybody for their kind words... they are *very* much appreciated.</p><p>Stephen Judd wrote:</p><blockquote><p>I for one…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 11:45:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<p>While we wait for David to come to, let's draw up a list of "safe" career choices... here's mine:</p><p>1) Estate agent<br />2) Accountant<br />3) Lawyer<br />4) Local politician</p><p>Are there any productive professions that could go in there?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:43:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And lets talk about the money &ndash; I have a PhD and 15 years experience and I get paid less than a kindy teacher. And the job prospects.</p></blockquote><p>i got out of academe for that exact reason. i now get to do <strong>actual</strong> research instead of being a teaching engine,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:20:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>DAVID! DAVID!!</p><p>knock twice if you're still in the house and can hear us!!</p><p>twice!!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:10:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Anne M</title>
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						<blockquote>Sadly, many of my former colleagues have poured years of their lives into brilliant projects only to have them inexplicably cancelled in mid-stride. I've found myself particularly haunted by the comments of one senior scientist, who told me: "When I look back on my career all I see are decades…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:13:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						<p>Just found an interesting feedscraper. Which does something that I'd considered hacking together some time ago.</p><p>For those of you who are RSS enabled I'd be  interested to learn if this works for you (I've been using netvibes as my reader).</p><p><a href="http://feed43.com/3182016436744535.xml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://feed43.com/3182016436744535.xml</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:31:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<p>It's more of a smoking crater now, but yeah, unhealthy describes it quite well.</p><p>Should let David out so he can respond actually.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						Tell me Juha, how long have you had this fascination with David's groin? Because I'm getting an inkling that it might be unhealthy.
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						<p>Those DIY context tags are great!</p><p>I concur with Che's heroic retreat.  Step slowly away from the internet Juha....No sudden movements.....Nice &amp; slow.....Go quietly and you won't get hurt.</p><p><can one of the moderators send someone round to Juha's...I think he'll offer little resistance...check the usual places for dismembered bodies &amp; stove for bunnies being boiled.  Be really, really, careful though!>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:24:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>oooooo-kaaay....</p><p><backs-slowly-away>nice one there juha...</runs></p><p>on the other hand, you could always ghost write <a href="http://thefault.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> for me.</p><p>so far it's pretty average.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:07:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Did Simon Travaglia ghost-write that?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:13:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hamish</title>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<p><em>"Ten days ago I said goodbye to the Crown Research Institute (CRI) that has been my home for the last couple of years, and set off on my own as a freelance writer. Yes, I am really that stupid."</em></p><p>"No, Haywood. You're this stupid," I said, sinking my boot hard…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>someone once said a writer is an actor who's too lazy to wait tables</p></blockquote><p>Nice- or as in "too lazy to work, too nervous to steal." <br />Yeah, it's just the jealousy of the wannabe writer.</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>someone once said a writer is an actor who's too lazy to wait tables. i always liked that one.</p><p>but really, congrats David. good for you for following something you enjoy and leaving something that just saps your life away. even if it doesn't work out at least you won't…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						I for one would love to see a piece on the state of research in New Zealand. Decades of wasted effort &ndash; that's a powerful (and very sad) line.
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>that's what my friends with 'proper' jobs keep suggesting...</p></blockquote><p>'proper' jobs of course being a euphemistic term for work performed by those without one or more of the following:</p><p>Creative talent.<br />Guts to earn a living out of their creative talents.<br />Lack of success in earning a living from their…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but I bet I would still exhibit the motions of beer-drinking even if my head were removed (which might be an interesting experiment to try sometime).</p></blockquote><p>That does sound like it needs to be tried. And anything else that seems to demonstrate some kind of behavioural relationship between Kiwi males…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Are your health woes anything to do with the STDs you contracted from your previous GP?</p><p>Just trying to help here.</p><p>At least being a Dr., Steve, you can write with authority on just about anything.</p><p>Anyway, welcome to the world of capitalist piggery, brother.</p><p>In short, good luck.</p>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>Jon Knox wrote:</p><blockquote><p>"Freelance writer" &ndash; isn't that a euphemism for....</p></blockquote><p>I fear it might be.  Or, at least, that's what my friends with 'proper' jobs keep suggesting...</p><p>Emma Hart wrote:</p><blockquote><p>One assumes, however, that your near-mummified hands still perform their lift, tilt, and pour functions?</p></blockquote><p>If you're implying that…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Although I suppose buying cheese would suffice, so long as you go to an actual cheese shop.</p></blockquote><p>If it's a deadline week, that means driving to Barry's Bay.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Word-whoring is indeed a dangerous profession. I am slowly becoming chair-shaped, though my ability to procrastinate is now bordering on super-human.</p></blockquote><p>Stacey Gregg and I once agreed, on meeting at the fish market, that buying fish is a particularly pleasing form of procrastination for the professional writer. It just works.…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p>Word-whoring is indeed a dangerous profession. I am slowly becoming chair-shaped, though my ability to procrastinate is now bordering on super-human.</p><p>One assumes, however, that your near-mummified hands still perform their lift, tilt, and pour functions?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Several people have emailed me to ask if I was serious in this explanation of last week's post.</p></blockquote><p><sarcastic font>Let me be the first to enquire then if you are <strong>not</strong> serious in your explanation of last week's post.</sarcastic font></p><p>Hopefully that should address some of the imbalance in the cosmic forces…</p>
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				<title>Judi Lapsley Miller</title>
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						As a fellow self-employed writer/researcher I too can attest to workplace injuries involving sharp knives &ndash; but who knew that the top of knife blades were also sharp! And to make matters worse, there are two sharp edges on top, not just one... makes quite a pretty parallel scar though...…
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