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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the people sleeping on the traffic islands.</p></blockquote><p>I was told they were early earthquake warning detectors employed by the state.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Try to hit the beaches in Santa Cruz if you can pop down for a day. Beautiful beaches reminded me of Piha and lovely little town :)
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:14:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Sadly it probably is ....</p><p>Just thought of another fun place to visit &ndash; if you happen to be down near 4th St the <a href="http://www.eastbayvivarium.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">East bay Vivarium</a> for all your reptilian needs &ndash; where the staff look a lot like the product </p><p>At the weekend take a kite and go…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:12:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p><strong>Paul Campbell</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>The funny thing is that "sweltering hot" in Berkeley is pretty rare &ndash; there's a tongue of fog that sneaks across the bay in the evenings &ndash; a natural air conditioner...</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm... I guess Antarctica would be the equivalent natural air conditioner in Dunedin...</p><p><strong>Stewart</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>Which…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:31:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p>David,</p><p>apropos of my little snippet of Greek knowledge, <em>muni</em>  (the Greek word) is pronounced "moo nee" with a slight rising inflection.  Which led me to ponder that Barry Humphries' locating of Edna Everage as coming from Moonee Ponds was probably exercising a modicum of Greek knowledge himself.  It would…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:25:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						The funny thing is that "sweltering hot" in Berkeley is pretty rare &ndash; there's a tongue of fog that sneaks across the bay in the evenings &ndash; a natural air conditioner which means that almost no one in the East Bay has actual air conditioning &ndash; the 2 nights a…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:45:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Oh the life of a stay at home Dad and auteur. C'est si dur, n'est &ndash; ce pas?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:18:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>Thanks for all the handy advice, people!</p><p>Bob (or 'Thunderbird 2', as he prefers to be known these days) and I have been exploring hither and yon &mdash; we're having a lovely time .</p><p>Swelteringly hot here at the moment.   Another long night of writing/illustrating ahead of me; I feel…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:57:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I hear the  <a href="http://www.sortuv.com/22966-Details-Delancey-Street-Restaurant-San-Francisco-CA.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Delancey Street Restaurant</a>, staffed by ex-convicts, is pretty good.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:52:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						If you're into that sort of thing, there is also a really excellent vintage china shop called <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/06/HOGO1C2O1D1.DTL" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Naomi's Antiques</a>, where I got my <a href="http://images.google.co.nz/images?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;hs=G6k&amp;q=franciscan%20atomic%20starburst&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Franciscan Atomic Starburst</a> cup and saucer. (I dream fruitlessly of owning an entire set.)
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						Well as long as we're giving San Francisco travel advice, if you find yourself in need of a decent cup of coffee, go to the Farmer's Market at the wharf in downtown S.F. on Saturdays. I can't remember the name of it (and don't particularly want to reopen the great…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:23:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Again &ndash; if you're traveling up highway 1 up the coast bring your winter woollies the fog rolls in in summer &ndash; a few kilometers inland from the coast it may be wonderfully hot &ndash; go inland where you can to a state park on a river and take a…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:54:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... Bodega Bay (where The Birds was shot)</p></blockquote><p>And where my most magnificent 40th birthday party was held over four fabulous days.</p><p>Don't forget to detour inland and drink some wine.</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						If you get a chance, travel the Northern Pacific Highway--magnificent coastline and interesting corners of American history--including an old Russian trading fort at Fort Ross.   My brother lives in Mendocino (which both Sir Douglas Quartet and The McGarrigle Sisters have sung about). Just up the coast is Fort Bragg, where…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Jackie, Sacha- SF can be wonderful! (The street detritus* aka 'homeless people' was much less evident in the late 1980's/early1990s when I was there.) There is a magnificent museum of jade there...and excellent food...& clang!clang!clang! went the trolley...and one of the best zoological parks in the world...lavish seafogs, great kaimoana...I loved…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:06:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Mark Twain said: "The coldest winter I ever spent was summer in San Francisco" </p><p>The locals laugh at the tourists in their shorts and tee-shirts freezing on the streets &ndash; summer is fog season &ndash; take some warm clothes, don't expect to enjoy the water at the beach in Northern…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Got room in your luggage for a stowaway?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:31:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I've always wanted to go to SF. Something about it just really draws me to it. One of these days.........
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The wounded and disabled of American society get to live in the street.</p></blockquote><p>The photo I show my students is one I took in the Fisherman's Wharf area of SF, of a guy crammed into a corner rubbish bin (head and arms just visible), waving a cardboard sign which read…</p>
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				<title>nz native</title>
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						<p>My kids went to the usa a while ago, they got to go to disney land, las vegas, knoxberry farm etc etc.</p><p>The thing from their trip to america which stuck in their minds the most was......... the people sleeping on the traffic islands.</p><p>The people walking with all their…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>BART's not for getting around SF though &ndash; it's really a wide area transit system &ndash; makes a single pass through a lot of cities &ndash; more like a train than a subway. </p><p>What ever you do don't take a car &ndash; in SF Muni is the way to go:…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>As this thread is something to do with America I thought I'd post this here. Scuze me.<br />The sending of "our troops" to Afghanistan has raised some interesting points, in my head at least. Phil Goff was being interviewed on te news last night and just before they cut the…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BART is great</p></blockquote><p>Why thank you Dinah :).</p><p>It did however cause me some confusion when I first went to SF.</p><p>We visited SF several times when we were living in Davis and found it quite hard to find. It such a big city that you can drive/bus/BART/walk around for…</p>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						BART is great. You fly into SF, get on BART, and the next thing you know you've been met at the appropriate Berkeley station (well maybe you changed trains along the way) and you're eating at Fat Apples.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayward_Fault_Zone" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bound to be</a> &ndash; more like likely some lawyer getting ready for the post quake law suits "It's Haywood's fault ...."
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:54:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>The HAYWARD Fault?? Typing error on the geologists part. They KNEW he was coming.  The Bog. The Bart. It is a sign.</p><p>FX: Cue X Files lick.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						all the 1950s double decker freeways like the one that collapsed (and I normally should have been on that day at that time &ndash; went to work a day early that week) have been torn down at this point &ndash; the bridge that partly collapsed is due to be replaced…
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Methinks it was the Spanish Inquisition!! Totally unexpected!</p><p>Come on the second Book. Significant Other even chuckled in bed over the first one! </p><p>Walk the Bridge. Stay out from UNDER the freeways. </p><p>and....agggghhhhhh....Have a nice day!</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						BTW that part of down town Oakland is quite safe at night too &ndash; good restaurants &ndash; the Jack London thing is a bit of a tourist trap IMHO &ndash; oh and you can take the ferry to SF during the day.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>yes but SF MUNI in particular is known for it's particularly, umm, aggressive drivers &ndash; mind you I've seen some pretty aggressive passengers too .....</p><p>But don't let this discourage people from taking it SF has a quite functional public transit system, despite the drivers it works well and goes…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						What can I say, don't give up your night job.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Ok David, we know you're only in it for the MUNI.
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						I'll give you a micro-discount on the new book...
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I suspect there might be a profitable side-line in Writer Patting.</p></blockquote><p>I demand micro-payments for my kind words. It's an area of human expression that is unaccountably un-monetised at present.</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Then later, I experience horrible moments of clarity when I ask myself: "Why am I writing this?", "Who will read it?", and "Have I finally flipped?"</p></blockquote><p>I suspect there might be a profitable side-line in Writer Patting. "No, really, sweetheart, it's funny/kind/sad/awesome, you rock, you really do, have another coffee."</p>
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						<p><strong>giovanni tiso</strong> wrote:</p><blockquote><p>I found the MUNIs on the LA buses incredibly courteous, and I was probably the most inept customer they had encountered in quite a while.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, admittedly I've had loads of super-nice bus drivers as well.  In fact, this has been the only objectionable person that I've…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>David: I can't wait to start wasting my time reading your new book.</p><p>I would recommend a trip to Oakland (maybe during the daytime), to visit Jack London's Tavern, and see the freight trains trundle down the middle of the street past the Jack London Inn.  There is a great…</p>
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						<p>I found the MUNIs on the LA buses incredibly courteous, and I was probably the most inept customer they had encountered in quite a while.</p><blockquote><p>Why would anyone waste their time writing and illustrating something like this &mdash; let alone reading it?</p></blockquote><p>I know of at least one person who…</p>
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						<p>Stewart explains all:</p><blockquote><p>Name: stewart<br />Email: [withheld]</p><p>Message:<br />You won't be surprised to hear that "muni" in Greek is a word for 'cunt'.</p><p>Not sure of its true spelling (cyrillic alphabet, etc) but you can bank on that one.  So maybe it wasn't the Latin they used for it, but…</p></blockquote>
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						You can cut&paste the remark I emailed you about &ndash; it was for general discussion before there was a 'Discuss' button...
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						<p>Okay, so a bunch of people have emailed to say that they also want a discussion thread here.  Fair enough!</p><p>So in the spirit of responding to our readers' wishes...</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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