Public Address | Cafe | Random Play: The Seduction of the Strange https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Lucy Telfar Barnard https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=137480#post137480 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=137480#post137480 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:12:15 +1300 tussock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136635#post136635 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136635#post136635 Re: "This is worrying"

No it isn't, you're just getting old.

Really, kids spend a long time on the net because the net kicks ass. It's like newspapers, radio, TV, music, magazines, books, hanging out doing nothing, that time behind the bike sheds, board games, all the latest cool toys,…

]]> Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:45:54 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136586#post136586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136586#post136586 Meanwhile — had to have a little giggle at Rudman of The Raj's pitch to be the Trinny and Suzannah of Kiwi architecture.

Living in the world capital of architectural facadism, it's hard to blame Auckland's Indian community for thinking the rest of us would welcome with open arms their plan…

]]> Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:31:33 +1300 Keir Leslie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136579#post136579 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136579#post136579 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:23:22 +1300 Tom Beard https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136536#post136536 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136536#post136536 Um, not as much as is implied here; see the Calcutta High Court and various other Gothic Revival structures. Likewise replication of Classical originals. I mean, yeah, not exactly the same thing, but I can't see how it is any worse than a Triumphal Arch after the Roman or whatever.… ]]> Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:57:33 +1300 Jolisa https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136496#post136496 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136496#post136496

And fairy lights...

Definitely fairy lights!

]]> Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:44:31 +1300 Mrs Skin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136426#post136426 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136426#post136426 Stephen – I think it's perfectly appropriate. It follows naturally from the question Graham asked.

I personally don't have the energy to get into a discussion about it today, so I haven't. But I don't think you should be concerned.

]]> Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:48:07 +1300 andrew llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136398#post136398 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136398#post136398

I was told that Sydney was all right, but Melbourne would have been "better". I don't know how people determine such things,

Neither do I, but Perth would have been better still. :)

Seriously though, I like both Sydney AND Melbourne.

]]> Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:06:38 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136322#post136322 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136322#post136322

Taj Mahal !

did someone die?

Taste is the enemy of art!

and art is the enemy of the state

]]> Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:22:56 +1300 bronwyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136288#post136288 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136288#post136288 Steven, I think there's still a tremendous amount of victim blaiming that happens in these cases, and that's one of the reasons people don't talk about it.

One excercise we do with students in class is looking at a scenario where a young woman victim wears what could be called…

]]> Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:33:22 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136240#post136240 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136240#post136240 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:48:50 +1300 dc_red https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136238#post136238 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136238#post136238 Or, as they say in Ohakune, "three thumbs up!"

I think it's about time we had a similar check box labeled "Rugby" – that way we can create a Ministry of Rugby, fund them with a yearly budget from the check box and hold them to it, no cost overruns.…

]]> Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:43:33 +1300 bronwyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136211#post136211 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136211#post136211 And on another note, two big thumbs up to a replicant Taj Mahal.

Take that Ohakune and your giant carrot!

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:04:56 +1300 bronwyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136209#post136209 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136209#post136209

Just what is the believable statistic on sexual abuse? In the past few days I have heard one in four women, then one in three. To me, innocently asking, these seem extremely high ratios not to mention significantly different.

As one of those people that throws about statistics like this,…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:02:09 +1300 Julian Melville https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136171#post136171 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136171#post136171 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:45:26 +1300 Keir Leslie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136146#post136146 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136146#post136146

There's quite a bit of difference between adopting an architectural language and wholesale replication.

Um, not as much as is implied here; see the Calcutta High Court and various other Gothic Revival structures. Likewise replication of Classical originals. I mean, yeah, not exactly the same thing, but I can't see…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:38:21 +1300 Tom Beard https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136134#post136134 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136134#post136134

Except, to be honest, it's too late to put fake Gothic architecture in Christchurch, we've already got a lot of it, especially on the Square; it's too late to try and make Dunedin look like Edinburgh, the good burghers have already tried that.

So why not make bits of Auckland…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:11:34 +1300 LegBreak https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136124#post136124 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136124#post136124

Dykes... on bikes? Please? I've been good all year...

You see, if we really put our minds to it, this National Theme Park thing could really be the answer.

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:57:54 +1300 Mrs Skin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136105#post136105 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136105#post136105

And make sure the national cycle way is dotted with plenty of windmills and dykes.

Dykes... on bikes? Please? I've been good all year...

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:33:16 +1300 Nick Westgate https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136086#post136086 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136086#post136086

Why do people send an e-mail asking for your assistance but then have some weird block on your reply.

What kind of bounce did you get?

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:13:35 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136012#post136012 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136012#post136012

Taste is the enemy of art!

Too right. Mrs. Skin's on the money with the sequins. Let's have LEDs too. Lots of them.

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:08:58 +1300 Keir Leslie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136007#post136007 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136007#post136007

A replica of Edinburgh Castle in Dunedin. Cathedral Square could do with Big Ben. A Golden Gate bridge across the entry tro Wellington Harbour.

Except, to be honest, it's too late to put fake Gothic architecture in Christchurch, we've already got a lot of it, especially on the Square; it's…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:41:32 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136006#post136006 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136006#post136006

a vulgar tacky piece of shite

And that is why it would fucking ROCK. Taste is the enemy of art!

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:41:04 +1300 Michael Stevens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136003#post136003 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136003#post136003

a vulgar tacky piece of shite

So out of keeping with Auckland how, exactly?

(Just keeping the Auckland / Welly thing going. It's like LA/SF. Or Melbourne/Sydney – although those two are much more alike than the inhabitants care to admit).

Rich, what are you tring to get at here?…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:33:03 +1300 Karen White https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136000#post136000 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=136000#post136000

I have used the Quality/Comfort Hotel in Cuba St several times and have enjoyed the made-over heritage building (its a registered Historic Place) in a relatively central/convenient location

I concur. Very convenient & reasonably priced. Can be noisy if you get a Cuba St side room lower down.

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:23:22 +1300 Jim Cathcart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135994#post135994 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135994#post135994 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:17:11 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135993#post135993 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135993#post135993

The one in three in a lifetime figure wouldn't surprise me. Most people will never talk about their experiences with anyone but those they are extremely close to, and even then they often don't.

If the parameters include not feeling able to say no then, based on anecdotal evidence from…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:13 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135992#post135992 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135992#post135992 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:05 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135987#post135987 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135987#post135987

a vulgar tacky piece of shite

So out of keeping with Auckland how, exactly?

(Just keeping the Auckland / Welly thing going. It's like LA/SF. Or Melbourne/Sydney – although those two are much more alike than the inhabitants care to admit).

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:10:22 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135985#post135985 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135985#post135985 When I lived in the US the federal and state income tax forms would have check boxes "would you like to give 1$ to "

I think it's about time we had a similar check box labeled "Rugby" – that way we can create a Ministry of Rugby, fund them…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:02:18 +1300 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135964#post135964 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135964#post135964

Just what is the believable statistic on sexual abuse? In the past few days I have heard one in four women, then one in three. To me, innocently asking, these seem extremely high ratios not to mention significantly different.

The one in three in a lifetime figure wouldn't surprise me.…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:21:25 +1300 LegBreak https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135962#post135962 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135962#post135962 I’m surprised the Minister for Tourism hasn’t been his normal creative self on this.

A replica of Edinburgh Castle in Dunedin. Cathedral Square could do with Big Ben. A Golden Gate bridge across the entry tro Wellington Harbour.

Hamilton could become our own Vegas (or was that Rotorua?) . Tauranga…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:13:44 +1300 Jono https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135961#post135961 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135961#post135961 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:13:07 +1300 Mrs Skin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135960#post135960 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135960#post135960 Agree with Michael. Maybe if we added sequins..?

I'd love to see something unique and as beautiful as the Taj Mahal that responds to its environment, i.e. the site, the Indian community in NZ, etc.

Robyn tells me the one in four stat is wrong, but it may depend on…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:10:08 +1300 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135959#post135959 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135959#post135959 Austria has a little Taj – and a whole lot of other shrunken stuff – but at least they have the decency to quarantine it in the service of a worthy cause.

Re. Melbourne and Sydney. It's hard to visit Melbourne without being asked if you've ridden the trams yet.…

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:05:43 +1300 Michael Stevens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135957#post135957 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135957#post135957 It will be a vulgar tacky piece of shite that shouldn't be allowed IMNSHO.

OK for Las Vegas, but not here.

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:53:30 +1300 Sam F https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135955#post135955 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135955#post135955

What is the poet said, "I contain multiples"? We all do.

Multitudes... and yes, Song of Myself is one of my favourite poems ever.

The microTaj should make for an interesting landmark on the way into town.

]]> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:34:47 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135954#post135954 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-seduction-of-the-strange/?p=135954#post135954 Discussion from blog post.

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