Public Address | Cafe | Random Play: The Pope, the Veitch, his Spies and my Brother https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Shep Cheyenne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59888#post59888 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59888#post59888 On the 1st 4 ships. You've got to remeber (& remind them) that their mums were all mail order brides with a try before you buy period.
The famous family photos are all taken a generation & 1/2 later.

]]> Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:56:46 +1200 AndrewD https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59884#post59884 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59884#post59884 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:49:43 +1200 Shep Cheyenne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59676#post59676 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59676#post59676 Why do we need a cultural capital at all?

Let the regions do their thing. Taranaki has a fair bit of cultural capital, with their World Music, Parihaka, Len Lye, and the other acts that travel the regions.

Christchurch has a long running Theatre Sports (which I think I am…

]]> Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:25:30 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59669#post59669 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59669#post59669

Yes, but then that would be because Wellington is NZ's Capital of Culture according to this article

Someone should tell Rupert de Paula that 'plethora' (as in "grab a bite to eat in one of Wellington’s plethora of restaurants") is neither a compliment or a synonym for 'lots and lots'.…

]]> Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:51:58 +1200 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59668#post59668 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59668#post59668 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:39:23 +1200 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59565#post59565 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59565#post59565 Wellingtonians seem to go out of their way not to appear excited by TV presenters, reality TV "stars" and goss mags, though indie filmmakers, musicians and obscure writers are a different story of course. Yes, but then that would be because Wellington is NZ's Capital of Culture according to [[http://www.southafrican.co.uk/travel.aspx?ID=164|this… ]]> Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:47:04 +1200 Shep Cheyenne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59383#post59383 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59383#post59383 It is World Youth Day, any protest needs to be PG in nature and so issues held against the Pope (who has a few – he was Hitler Youth – although not by choice) need to be ballanced against the biggest kids fest – like forever.

Coupled with the new…

]]> Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:36:39 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59380#post59380 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59380#post59380

26.4% is not a majority.

And even if Catholics form a plurality in Australia (and are pouring shitloads of money into economy Sydneyside), that's not the point. Catholics have the same rights to go about their legitimate and lawful business – and be free from harassment, intimidation and criminal nogoodnikery…

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:27 +1200 3410 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59378#post59378 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59378#post59378 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:12:20 +1200 Joe Wylie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59377#post59377 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59377#post59377 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:01:11 +1200 Shep Cheyenne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59376#post59376 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59376#post59376 "The Pope touched me down under"
That T-shirt would do well amonst a few of my friends .

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:41:15 +1200 Shep Cheyenne https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59375#post59375 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59375#post59375 "This was their time in the sun again, and they seemed to be out in force too."

You seem to be talking of Ozzy Catholics as 'other'.
Australia is a majority Catholic Country

Religions:
Catholic 26.4%, Anglican 20.5%, other Christian 20.5%, Buddhist 1.9%, Muslim 1.5%, other 1.2%, unspecified 12.7%, none…

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:48 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59352#post59352 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59352#post59352 What has happened up here is a complex business, entwined with the public relations industry. You bung your PR client heaps for staging a "launch" on a Tuesday night. But to validate that launch, you need to make sure that some celebrities turn up. So you have to create a… ]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:11:34 +1200 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59287#post59287 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59287#post59287

This was their time in the sun again, and they seemed to be out in force too.

*sigh* And when the issues around morality come up some are just a little to willing to think the religious should be consulted.
And there is a rumor the pope does have a…

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:25:45 +1200 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59283#post59283 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59283#post59283

Coals to Newcastle ...

Ooo, burn!

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:43:16 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59268#post59268 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59268#post59268

Wellingtonians seem to go out of their way not to appear excited by TV presenters, reality TV "stars" and goss mags, though indie filmmakers, musicians and obscure writers are a different story of course.

What has happened up here is a complex business, entwined with the public relations industry. You…

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:38:05 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59266#post59266 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59266#post59266

Dear Auckland,

Plz do not send us all your munters. Kthnxbai.

Coals to Newcastle ...

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:29:33 +1200 David Haywood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59224#post59224 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59224#post59224 martin w wrote:

For those not aware, the state government recently legislated that it would be an offence to 'annoy' pilgrims... to the cost of $5500!

It always astonishes (and alarms) me that Australia has no protection for freedom of expression.

And it makes me think that New Zealand should…

]]> Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:16:44 +1200 martin w https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59076#post59076 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59076#post59076 Hello, I should bring to the table a couple of the better papal protest t-shirt slogans...

For those not aware, the state government recently legislated that it would be an offence to 'annoy' pilgrims... to the cost of $5500!

– The Pope touched me down under
– My invisible friend…

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:52:46 +1200 Emma Hart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59075#post59075 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59075#post59075

What that says about either city, is anyone's guess.

Dear Auckland,

Plz do not send us all your munters. Kthnxbai.

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:49:29 +1200 Bob Munro https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59072#post59072 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59072#post59072 Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:46:58 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59069#post59069 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59069#post59069

And in Dunedin they have a mayor that can sing, and even that doesn’t get him into the magazines.

The other week he was on the front page of the ODT singing in a full wedding dress, with veil. I think that makes him about 5 times the mayor than…

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:33:21 +1200 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59068#post59068 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59068#post59068

What I have thought for a while that s that if anyone does a modern-day remake of Henry V (like the BBC did of Much Ado, Taming of the Shrew and so forth), then Ali is a modern-day Prince Hal.

Well, I wonder if there's some Kiwi Sondheim who could…

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:28:07 +1200 Rachel Prosser https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59003#post59003 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59003#post59003

If they did know and didn't do that, then what does that tell us about them?

Perhaps that they are part of the PR industry? I don't read those columns myself (not being an Aucklander) so can't really comment.

One thing I do find amusing is that in his days…

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:55:24 +1200 LegBreak https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59002#post59002 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=59002#post59002 It’s because the vacuous “Celebrity Treasure Island” type celebrities are based in Auckland.

In contrast, when the country’s best political radio broadcaster gets done for a pretty full-on DIC recently, it barely creates a ripple in Wellington.

And in Dunedin they have a mayor that can sing, and even that…

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:52:09 +1200 Tom Beard https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=58987#post58987 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=58987#post58987

"a peculiarly Auckland culture that baffles outsiders"

Yes, that did seem a little odd, including the implication that the only people who refer to "Mercs" and "Beamers" live in Auckland. It is, however, tied up with the desperate attempts to manufacture a celebrity culture, which isn't exclusively "Auckland" but seems…

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:22:07 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=58986#post58986 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-the-pope-the-veitch-his-spies/?p=58986#post58986 Discussion from blog post.

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