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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Charging! Clear!</strong><br />just restarting an old thread...</p><p>here's something that would look good on the waterfront &ndash; if they can just build something that <br />we can get <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1188229/Sydney-Opera-Houses-white-sails-turn-giant-canvas-spectacular-light-display.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Eno to project on</a> <br />(no Telecom ads thanks!)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:09:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just an up date on The Arts Centre in Christchurch.<br />Yesterday a closed 'workshop' was held at the CCC where submitter Rod Carr has the exclusive ear of council.</p></blockquote><p>I also note that the Press story didn't clarify whether Ken Franklin (AC Director) or any representative of the Arts Centre…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:15:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ocktoberfest.<br />They seem to to do a mega party, and every year, not a one off.</p></blockquote><p>how about every Febrewery 6th<br />we have a large culturally <br />inclusive "White Hangi" day?<br />;- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:02:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Just thinking</title>
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						<p>All developments to date have past through our current crop of planners &amp; Architects.</p><p>Just an up date on The Arts Centre in Christchurch. <br />Yesterday a closed 'workshop' was held at the CCC where submitter Rod Carr has the exclusive ear of council. <br />He obviously had more to say than he…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:19:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Yeah right , thats all we need is someone looking down  their nose at the provincials.  <br />Is  someone who clearly' hasnt  a clue' about how we live is going to provide advice on urban planning?</p><p>This is becoming more of a farce than I ever imagined</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:25:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<p>To be fair, the Auckland City Council urban designers seem to have a pretty good idea about what they're up against. I heard &ndash; I think it was the head chap &ndash; on the radio a while ago. </p><p>He'd flown in from South Africa or somewhere to interview for the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:57:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>be part of the solution...</strong><br /><a href="http://www.thebigidea.co.nz/work/jobs-opportunities/design/62165-senior-urban-designer" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Senior Urban Designer</a> wanted for Auckland...<br />applications close Nov 10</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:32:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>Our children will thank us for it.</blockquote> At this point I would like to apologise to RB with my tiny bit of negative attitude toward "party central" but I think Paul L is right, and so it seems were <em>some</em> of us anyway.Plus Brownlee and McCully on the panel? pileeeze!…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:00:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>Queens Wharf redesign halted</blockquote>Our children will thank us for it.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:33:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10607470" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Queens Wharf redesign halted</a></p><blockquote><p>Plans for a development at Queen's Wharf before the 2011 Rugby World Cup have been put on hold.</p><p>The winner of a design competition for the project was supposed to decided today, but Auckland Mayor John Banks and the Auckland Regional Council chairman Mike Lee were not…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:37:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stuart Coats</title>
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						<p>Off-topic....</p><p>Graham, are you worried that people might think your book is a detailed account of the Balloon Boy saga?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:45:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Speaking of the Sydney Opera House, Murphy's Law made its presence felt all the way. Its chief architect quit in disgust, and the entire project ended up 14 years behind schedule and 10 times over budget. Yet it still got built in the end.</p><p>I suspect even in Australia they…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:46:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Took up the Challenge from Graham  after his comment .."Sorry pal and with all due respect, but you you might need to get into a bigger world than the one you live in."<br />Why not have a look at one of the places of the 'world' I have  not seen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:17:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Fraser Gardyne</title>
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						<p>Hi Graham,</p><p>I agree broadly with your points however I totally disagree regarding opening the competition up to international architects.</p><p>The problem is not that we don't have great architects, WE DO HAVE GREAT ARCHITECTS. It's that the whole basis for the competition is flawed.</p><p>The problem with competitions like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:30:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Call me paranoid but...<br />Britomart = railhead<br />Wharf = well... wharf<br />Cruise ships = Prison Hulks<br />Can anyone else see a pattern here?<br /> And then there's the Container Terminal <br />Containers = Cells<br />Scary<br />I said you should be wary of the National Government.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:02:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Graham</title>
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						<p>I would like to make a suggestion. A concept that I hope will spark the public consciousness and engender excitement and passion.</p><p>I propose a Centre for Maori and Polynesian Culture &ndash; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118922507167" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Te Atea</a>. </p><p>It is a scandal that the largest Polynesian city in the world (ignoring the possibility of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:36:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						As an aside, checked out one of those big screens at the NZ conference and events expo t'other day and the really big screen still looks grainy/ pixelated.Not being negative or anything :)
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:22:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Don't you think you're being just a tiny bit negative there, Sofie?</p></blockquote><p>No ;)</p><blockquote><p>The Irish fans will travel up from their team's first match in New Plymouth during the first week</p></blockquote><p>See! there's the first problem!</p><blockquote><p>And you won't want them in Kingsland.</p></blockquote><p>Yes ,there we agree, let them…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:15:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Chasing you around the threads here, Russell but I was just wondering what Media 7 is doing this week (I know you are at SPADA next week--will see you there)</p></blockquote><p>We're doing body image and Bill Francis.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:10:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>True, but may as well be a caravan park then.Hell, we know it can be driven on. It can handle the weight. Don't see much point in a journey all the way back to a a water front, when festivities start round the corner.</p></blockquote><p>But that's only on Eden Park…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:10:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Looks like we are, troublingly, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10607112" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">on a wavelength with John Banks</a> ...</p><blockquote><p>Auckland City Mayor John Banks is considering canning the Queens Wharf upgrade amid growing concerns the city will inherit another mediocre development.</p><p>"One of the options could be to do next to nothing," he said yesterday.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:59:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think we lose sight</p></blockquote><p>True, but may as well be a caravan park then.Hell, we know it can be driven on.  It can handle the weight. Don't see much point in a journey all the way back to a a water front, when festivities start round the corner. Plus…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:29:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Chasing you around the threads here, Russell but I was just wondering what Media 7 is doing this week (I know you are at SPADA next week--will see you there)
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:11:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wouldn't go down to the waterfront for Rugby. What, do they think these folk are thick?</p></blockquote><p>I think that they're marshalling the campervan crowds downtown, which makes sense &mdash; you'd rather have them there because they'll want to party every night, and there's neither the capacity or the tolerance…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>which is why the brewerys are opening as many bars there as fast as they can.</p></blockquote><p>Well, the Kingslander, been there for quite some time but The Macs Neighbourhood Bar is actually owned by the 3(?) guys who own Wagamama. So they are not silly eh? I think that is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:29:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I love Auckland. It breaks my heart to see what a shallow political/sporting/populist agenda is doing to my city.</p></blockquote><p>Hear hear! I will plug again these people who I have much respec' for. Yes please, anything they do would be just fine. How's this for<br /><a href="http://plusmood.com/2009/03/regium-waterfront-zaha-hadid-architects/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> outside the square</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:07:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						"Party Central" is going to be the Kingsland strip, which is why the brewerys are opening as many bars there as fast as they can. The council should be working out how to close New North road from Bond Street to Kingsland Ave without causing traffic chaos before the huge…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I think making some space for the hordes is a good idea &mdash; and face it, we've bought the bloody thing from Ports of Auckland anyway &mdash; but I think now I'd actually prefer it to be simply cleared and filled with temporary structures for the RWC. That would be…
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>The Sydney Opera House is not a wharf. It was a headland, which previously contained  a tram barn.<br />But this makes my point, they  started from a cultural centre, which they needed and found a suitable site. <br />Here  we have a wharf , one of many,  and the reason there…</p>
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				<title>Graham Reid</title>
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						<p>UMMMMMMMM . . . . Sydney?<br />You have never heard about the "Opera House"?<br />The last great 20th century work of genuinely iconic [ and i don't mean in that mundane NZ use of the word "iconic": aka Dave Dobbyn, Marc Ellis] national symboliism.<br />I'm thinking public architecture which might…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Martin Scorsese's doco on Bob Dylan (which screens on Sky this week)</p></blockquote><p>It's on ONe! (Sat., 10:35pm)</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>For many of us, we'd like local body politicians to deliver basic, decent services at reasonable cost and not fuck things up with noise limits on city bars and the like.</p><p>However, that isn't good enough for the people that run for office. They want to build *iconic* structures so…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:32:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>There is no great mass of people thronging to get to the end of Queens Wharf.<br />It was an ill conceived idea to use  the area for a  party central in the first place , lets not turn a bad idea into a massive mistake by throwing more money at…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:21:12 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:21:12 +1300</pubDate>
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