Public Address | Cafe | Random Play: Politics on the pages https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46948#post46948 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46948#post46948

From an ethical and legal point of view, they're probably pretty pissed off. But in terms of advertising revenue, craccum probably benefited from this whole scandal.

I don't think so, and here's why: For the sake of argument, I'm the National Party's campaign director, and I sign a contract with…

]]> Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:22:13 +1200 GuannyL https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46947#post46947 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46947#post46947 hmmm.....
I just reread your post, and I realise now that you probably meant arresting international students would piss off auckland uni...

nvm me...

I'm gonna go sleep now

]]> Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:51:47 +1300 GuannyL https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46946#post46946 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46946#post46946 Firstly, I'm NOT saying what they're saying is right- because what they did was very wrong and very stupid.

but come on, Auckland Uni being pissed off about the disturbance to their revenue?

As soon as the incident occured, the editor of craccum contacted all the national media outlets. He…

]]> Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:45:37 +1300 Rich of Observationz https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46736#post46736 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46736#post46736 I'm fairly sure you could be convicted of stealing a free magazine if it was without the owners consent and you intended to permanently deprive the, etc. The owner is allowed to control the manner of its distribution.

Anyways, even if the Falun Gong *were* a political organisation determined to…

]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:31:39 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46635#post46635 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46635#post46635

Graham, I am one of the few who does read W Somerset Maugham; top chap. I think his reputation has suffered because few read short stories these days, a form in which he excelled.

I was hoping Maugham would have a bit of a E.M Forster bounce following the release…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:46:23 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46633#post46633 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46633#post46633 In... 1997 I think... a mad nutter wrote a letter to the editor to Critic down here. And then decided to change his mind and wanted it pulled.

However Critic had already sent the publication away to the printers, and wasn't going to reprint because someone changed their mind on…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:45:59 +1300 InternationalObserver https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46629#post46629 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46629#post46629

I think a better analogy would be DB hearing about said ad, then sending employees out to unilaterally prevent distribution of Craccum.

Heh heh.

Why would they do that when all DB need to do (after hearing about the ad) is call AUSA and have them unilaterally prevent distribution of…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:11:39 +1300 Paul Litterick https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46628#post46628 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46628#post46628 Russell, I think I had a Thetan in my eye.

Graham, I am one of the few who does read W Somerset Maugham; top chap. I think his reputation has suffered because few read short stories these days, a form in which he excelled.

The taking of Craccum issues is…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:08:27 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46609#post46609 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46609#post46609

Without saying that's a good thing, it's not anywhere near a similar situation.

AUSA own Craccum, if they don't want to advertise things that compete with their own events, they can. If they want to do it so late in the stage that they have to glue pages together...

Sure,…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:28:43 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46605#post46605 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46605#post46605

Yes, that right is reserved by AUSA, who about 10 years ago glued shut the first two pages of Craccum to prevent students from seeing an ad by Lion Breweries for an event in competition with the DB sponsored Orientation festival ...

Without saying that's a good thing, it's not…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:46:58 +1300 InternationalObserver https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46601#post46601 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46601#post46601 by what right do you swipe copies of the magazine to "edit" out an advertisement you object to?Yes, that right is reserved by AUSA, who about 10 years ago glued shut the first two pages of Craccum to prevent students from seeing an ad by Lion Breweries for an event… ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:13:09 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46586#post46586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46586#post46586 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:15:49 +1300 underscore_b https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46569#post46569 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46569#post46569

So although I'm pretty neutral about the practice and promotion of FLG in New Zealand, I'm pretty annoyed about their promotional tactics.

Well, yes and no, Guanny. I'd argue that FLG has more or less been forced to adopt a fly-by-night approach because otherwise they basically get stonewalled by the…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:04:18 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46560#post46560 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46560#post46560 And while I'm not down with Falun Gong's attitude towards homosexuality,perhaps you can forgive me for not being particularly down with the PRC's view that homosexuality is a "moldering life style of capitalism" that is ""abnormal and unacceptable to the Chinese public."

Though to be fair, sodomy is no longer…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:03:02 +1300 Graham Reid https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46558#post46558 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46558#post46558 Just to keep this one boiling . . .

Re "politics" in "art": seems to me every CD I get by an alt.country band/singer these days has some anti-Bush song. Should they come with a consumer warning?
I have been surprised when people tell me they are badgered by Falun…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:56:31 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46556#post46556 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46556#post46556

but I don't have a lot of sympathy for the group's supernatural claims,

Fair enough, but may I counter with a suspicion that most PA readers wouldn't be on board with the "supernatural claims" of the late Karol Józef Wojtyła — or his views on homosexuality and abortion — while…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:51:16 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46550#post46550 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46550#post46550 Oh, and here's a religious cult you can really despise.

The Scientology droids have come to visit The Fundy Post.

I thought Mr Litterick had a funny look in his eye last night.

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:32:45 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46549#post46549 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46549#post46549 I would politely suggest you and your group might want to look a little more carefully at the cultural context in which you live — a liberal democracy as it happens — and consider that Falun Gong (whether you or I or anyone back home in China likes it or… ]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:28:43 +1300 Michael Stevens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46543#post46543 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46543#post46543 I have Maugham's short stories and dip into them every few years. "The Three Fat Women of Antibes" is still one of my favourite short-stories ever. And Rain – well, what can I say but I wish I had that talent.

He is very much of his era, but I…

]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:44:31 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46531#post46531 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46531#post46531 It's like, if I went to a show that was advertised to promote New Zealand culture, and the organisers insisted that although some performers were from the National party, but it was a show purely about New Zealand culture.And then I went in and the lyrics were like "vote national,… ]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:23:31 +1300 Kotare https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46522#post46522 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46522#post46522 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:15:14 +1300 GuannyL https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46509#post46509 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46509#post46509 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:18:37 +1300 GuannyL https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46508#post46508 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46508#post46508 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:15:28 +1300 Leigh Kennaway https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46498#post46498 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46498#post46498 As a politician who spends an inordinate amount of time with other pollies, I'd have to agree with a lot of the comments above..... although there are also some astonishingly brilliant minds in the corridors of power too... hopefully they balance one another out!!

And as a very minor local…

]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:51:35 +1300 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46497#post46497 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46497#post46497 This page ripping is only the latest in a long line of defacement, burning, removing pages, lawsuits, censors injunctions, and other forms of abuse sent in the direction of the illustrious magazine.

Surely, this incident is something to celebrate and not condemn?

]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:40:24 +1300 daleaway https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46488#post46488 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46488#post46488 "The wrong sort of people are always in power because they would not be in power if they were the not the wrong sort of people."
Jon Wynne-Tyson

]]> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:51:08 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46487#post46487 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/random-play-politics-on-the-pages/?p=46487#post46487 Discussion from blog post.

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