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						<blockquote><p>In my original post I was really only talking about the CBD as being a shithole.</p></blockquote><p>I'm with the side that says CBD will not live until people can walk freely and get home with ease and without driving.  I'm sure the world looks fine <em>from a car window</em></p><blockquote><p>I…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:07:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Alec Morgan</title>
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						<p>Auckland perhaps is bigger than all of us...a grubby futurist grittscape arrived inconveniently early. There are islands of quiet but Graham Reid accurately tags worst offender the CBD. <br />(younger readers may prefer to go to the next post). Queen Street peaked in the 70s in my recall as an active…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:54:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						I gotta say that on a recent trip back to Akl, I was pleasantly surprised by how timely, clean and cost effective the trains were (compared with in the '80s when I used them to go to school). The road traffic, on the otherhand, was worse than Sydney.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:10:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						I grew up in Auckland, but thankfully got out in 1993. It astounds me that Queen Street still allows anyone with a car to drive it's length. Personally I think Dunedin should shut down George Street to a series of malls, allowing on traffic to cross it. The argument seems…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:48:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						<p>Graham Reid wrote:</p><blockquote><p>And sorry, I don't get the Carlaw option. The Stanley St motorway entrances are a racetrack and bloody complicated. There are few ways into that entrance to Carlaw (down Parnell Rd!!?? You gotta be kidding!) Access and egress look impossible there. How do you get to Carlaw…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:35:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>all commercial deliveries other than couriers to be done before 9am and after 6pm</p></blockquote><p>sorry man, that's impossible.</p><p>when i worked delivering pheonix drinks to downtown the only time of day you could deliver was between 9-11 and 2-4. any other time and the retailers were either closed or too…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:47:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graham Reid</title>
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						<p>reece asks where i live.<br />I am in the large apartments which have just been completed so look brand new (and i'm pleased to note sellers are pricing accordingly)<br />Thankfully we are not in the ones opposite morningside station which have laughably bad "eaves" put over some of the windows.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:34:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Zippy Gonzales</title>
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						Yes, the Domain is Heaven in the Orkland Hell, but what got me is the amount of people who drive through it as a thoroughfare. The council could earn a good sum of money putting a toll booth in the middle.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:09:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						errata,    Russell!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:25:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						Lovers lane Russel!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:25:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Domain was my recent discovery as well. At the risk of repeating myself, protect every little inch. Screw those Carlaw park advocates who want to take &ndash; just a little bit &ndash; for parking. Philistines.</p></blockquote><p>To be fair, they'd be taking a little bit of the domain that no…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:20:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						So do you think its infighting that holds us back or other interest groups such as developers who want to be able to continuously foist substandard buildings upon us?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:19:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>why it is that here in enzud we always go for the cheapest shittiest nearsighted option?</p></blockquote><p>See my post above.</p><p>Also, it's the flip-side of the "number 8 fencing wire" mentality. Being handy with number 8 fencing wire is very helpful in an environment where money and materials are not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:11:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						<p><em>The main drag is becoming increasingly ugly.</em></p><p>The main drag is, mainly a drag.<br />Are you in that block of units adjacent to the railway tracks Graham? The one that has been under repair since about 18 months ago? I really hope for your sake not, they look pretty shoddy…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:06:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Marcus Neiman</title>
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						<p>Rich: You perhaps forgot to mention abolishing the NZ Herald, or at least breaking its local monopoly...</p><p>While I agree that FPP needs to go, I think you will find that there are (relatively modest) campaign limits for local government elections. </p><p>The problem is that due to the lack of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:26:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>dgFieldsWhere do we start!</p><p>The system of local government is fundamentally broken:<br />&ndash; the success of outer Auckland is intrinsically bound up with the inner city, yet we have a regional body with limited powers (and which covers places that are not and should not be part of Auckland), combined…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:05:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>true. there are very, very few things that would make me take to the streets in protest.</p><p>impinging on the domain is one of them.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:29:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Auckland certainly needs a bit of a kicking. The motorway might be ok for Che but it is flaming nightmare to negotiate a route from the airport to the North. On a par with the worst set of intersections in the world, and I have seen a few.</p><blockquote><p>On a…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:09:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Marcus Neiman</title>
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						Notwithstanding central government's apathy and fear towards Auckland, there certainly is a problem in terms of the quality of local government in Auckland. At the level of elected representatives, voters are faced with the Cits and Rats/Nats types whose twin obsessions are hosting mega-events and limiting rates, or City Vision/Labour…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:03:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the "Bring Back Queen" upgrade...what a joke!</p></blockquote><p>What puzzles me about this the most is that amongst the new blue stone pavers, there appear to have been areas left (or repaved) in the old pink ones. I wonder why.</p><p>I'm not convinced that new street paving will liven up Queen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:16:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Well, I blame Muldoon. Or rather, I blame the trauma of Think Big. The failures and the white elephant debt taught generations of us that big projects were always and necessarily a bad idea. Whatever self-confidence we gained from the big public works projects of earlier decades leaked away in…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:12:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>J Wilkinson</title>
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						<p>Couldn't agree more.</p><p>Living in Grafton, I walk everywhere I need to go (with the exception of meetings in the burbs and the weekly grocery shop)...I LOVE Auckland. I especially love my eccentric little neighbourhood.</p><p>But the CBD appears to be on a downhill slide.</p><p>Recent examples:</p><p>&ndash; the intended…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:45:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Llewellyn</title>
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						While you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn't lament the decline of Auckland in terms of infrastructure, transport, architecture, social cohesion, yada yada, what depresses me even more is that we have had many of the finest minds in NZ working on a variety of solutions for eons.…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:39:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Friends and I have kicked around the idea of a series of semi-nostalgic books called "The Ghost Building of...(Insert city)." &ndash; the best pictures we could find of the iconic buildings we've lost, plus appropriate reminisences. Ok it'll never happen- but in an equally "it'll never happen"- wouldn't it be…
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>i've lived in both cities and would choose wellington any day of the week.</p><p>i mean, i really, really tried to love auckland, but it was just too hard to live in. i went to many if not all the places graham mentions, and discovered many of my own (anyone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:20:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						The most depressing aspect of the decline of Auckland is the generalised feeling of powerlessness to do anything about it. Everyone laughed at the “Absolutely Positively” campaign that got Wellington kick started several years ago now, but the capital is over-achieving and Auckland is most certainly under achieving.  When I…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:05:15 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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