Family First said Cadbury, Ferrit, Burger King, CRC and Finish had asked that their ads not be shown during the programme...

And now the circle completes:
Burger King are selling Golden Compass toys in their kids packs.

On that basis, is it okay if I continue to objectify the Tui girls?

Feel free – is it just me, or are those ads getting more and more surreal?

my point is that the majority of young people today don't really give a shit about anything because they've never had to.

Well, except the young people in any generation who are among the most fervent activists for whatever their chosen cause is. The ones with idealism. I'm already seeing…

And if you're worried about exploitation shouldn't you also be worried about five-storey high billboards of men in their underwear?

Aww... shut up woman! It's the barest sliver of recompense for six thousand years of patriarchal heterosexism! Well that's my excuse for drooling over the ripped but retarded men…

Today's young people don't really care about much more than going out, getting trashed, getting laid

... which, of course, pretty much sums up young people of any generation, in a society sufficiently free that such behaviour is possible without serious repercussions. Sure, they'll take this freedom for granted if…

What stupid young women

Stupid young men too. Today's young people don't really care about much more than going out, getting trashed, getting laid, and having enough minutes left on their cellphone to stay in touch with allllll their friends.

__Life is a party and you should just chill y'know? I…

Young women are confident in the freedoms and opportunities they have these days so a bit of sexism doesn't bother them?

Well, I don't see an ad as sexist solely on the basis of what the women are wearing. The last one that really got up my nose was an…

Bikini clad girls bouncing along on exercise balls have no connection with burgers.

Or even Primo chocolate milk, which is what the bouncing ads are for. The BK girls rode horses in bikinis, and stood around in a laboratory, wearing white coats with their bikinis.

Young women are confident in…

Bikini clad girls bouncing along on exercise balls have no connection with burgers.

Or even Primo chocolate milk, which is what the bouncing ads are for. The BK girls rode horses in bikinis, and stood around in a laboratory, wearing white coats with their bikinis.

Young women are confident in…

Light is not going to dawn for a while.

It seems as though there's been an absolute blossoming of crude sexist ads in the last couple of years, sometimes wrapped in protective "irony" but these days not even.

Though it does seem that the sexist ads are for products that are marketed towards young men.

We're not seeing anything…

Listening to The Edge there was this Florist ad that used the term "I Treat 'er Mean & Keep 'er Keen" but make up with flowers and it's alright.

Didn't…

This does bring up something I've been wondering about for a while though, which is: did we just fall…

Ah. So it's kinda "Burgers; better fresher. Just like women, really"?

Not even that. There's just these bikini clad models bouncing around on exercise balls – end of story.
Pretty girls = Burger King.
Sex = Sales.
Not a high point in the subtle art of advertising.

But the hypocrisy…

And yet... I can't put my finger on why I find the Burger King ads so tasteless and tacky, but I LOVE the Tui girls.

I think the Tui girls are nominally connected to making the beer in a male fantasy way. Bikini clad girls bouncing along on exercise balls…

Run-of-the-mill "hot" girls in bikinis.

And yet... I can't put my finger on why I find the Burger King ads so tasteless and tacky, but I LOVE the Tui girls.

I have yet to see one of the Burger King ads that everyone keeps referencing.

Run-of-the-mill "hot" girls in bikinis.

Burger King either appear to have realised that the only people who eat there are 15-year-old boys, or they want to reduce their customer base to that demographic.

Ah, but Family First doesn't have the numbers: it's Bob McCroskie and a mailing list.

(shrug) Family First Wages Onslaught Against Free Speech = a couple of companies get a bunch of ranty letters from a vocal minority, and...what? Bully-boy tactics? Family first aren't the consummate evil, just the advertisers…

Ah, but Family First doesn't have the numbers: it's Bob McCroskie and a mailing list.

But that is more than what the pissed-off Liberals have managed, I/O is right. As long as we're going 'that sucks' and not doing anything, why wouldn't the companies keep rolling over?

But it was…

But seriously though, picket Burger King, I want to see you guys in the Oddly Enough section of the foreign newspapers.

TV1 have picked up the new series of Hustle

Yeah, it followed on from repeats of the third season. With TV Guide still listing it as a (R) repeat!

somehow I'm not so enamoured this series

Neither. The episodes I've seen (and I've not seen them all), have been a…

Are we going to accept this? Seriously, I thought this sort of thing only happened in the US? This is a show that screens at 9.30pm! And they've successfully convinced advertisers to pull their advertising. If we allow Family First's action to go unchecked, what next? Will & Grace?

Well, I've…

Gone too far? For crying out loud, it's not censorship, it's market economics. If family first have the irate numbers to convince companies that sponsoring the show is going to affect profits, then more power to them.

Ah, but Family First doesn't have the numbers: it's Bob McCroskie and a…

.... I've just come across this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whYi8sCF5Pg which effectively skewers FOX News for their use of sex to sell the news. Bikini and breast shots during a serial killer report? How long before NZ…

Which also worked out for me because I don't eat burger king anyway.

No that'll never work, your boycott is completely ineffective.

Start eating it, briefly. Then stop. And write letters to them telling them so. They'll feel the cut in their profits and link it to your letter and…

The complainants have every right in a free society to express their opposition to the show. But in demanding that companies pull advertising slots during the programme, and several have done so, or that viewers boycott TV3 altogether, they go too far.

Gone too far? For crying…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/thepress/4273211a24077.html

What do PAS readers think? Am I right, or am I Don Quixote?

You're right. Feel free to be Don Quixote if you want, I don't mind what you do in the privacy of your own home.

And speaking of Californication and the Advertiser Ban driven…

On a related note, Family First and the catholic church really, really want you to watch Californication. Why else would they put out a press release about perverted sex & drug use in it?

And anyone who thinks Californication is kewl – let alone lets their kiddie winkles watch – has…

...and as for that creepy character that fronts Ferrit. I wouldn't leave him alone in a room with young children.

That's okay, I have a nice special place all prepared for him already. And I'm 27 so it's alright...

Family First said Cadbury, Ferrit, Burger King, CRC and Finish had asked that their ads not be shown during the programme...

Um, wtf, Burger King? You wanna talk about really offensive content on television? Have you seen your ads lately?

On a related note, Family First and the catholic church really, really want you to watch Californication. Why else would they put out a press release about perverted sex & drug use in it?

By the look of this article on Stuff
advertisers have turned away with only minimal pressure.

Family…

the 9.30pm timeslot is a bit close to family viewing times

Oh, so C4 were well out of order with their screening of the SouthPark movie the other night at 8.30pm? Which pretty much launched straight into

f#ck
c%ck$ucker
lickmyb@lls
@rsehole

Of course they didn't have the balls to say cnut.

but it only took six episodes to figure out that this thing wasn't going anywhere. Farewell, Pussyman, farewell.

Well that's poured cold water on that!

'The show makes many references to the work of Warren Zevon'. Yay! It can't go wrong.

In…

Family First has called for families to boycott companies advertising during the first episode of what it…

It looks like there are still last minute attempts to avoid the strike going on.

Nope. It's started.

Also, another boo... no more Daily Shows until further notice because of the strike? Did I hear that aright?

It looks like there are still last minute attempts to avoid the strike going on.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j9z48HzVgG3HdYSBT2GVQZwoUq0A

It does seem a pretty valid issue, writers wanting more of a share of the…

Also, another boo... no more Daily Shows until further notice because…

At least when Americans strike they do it properly ... none of this "three hours next Tuesday" guff. Go out, stay out, see you in five and a half months.

Looks like the Dom's plans to be the next Ryan Seacrest are well underway, according to this story anyway, although ratings haven't been great.

I think it's hilarious how in that story he relates that he was working on his tan before the audition. Note to Mr. Fanta Pants: if…

Chase says the New Jersey mob boss "had been people's alter ego. They had gleefully watched him rob, kill, pillage, lie and cheat. They had cheered him on. And then, all of a sudden, they wanted to see him punished for all that. They wanted…

Whoa – totally right,

You sound surprised. ;)

Hex has played before (series 1, I presume), on TV2 at about 1.00am on a weeknight.

Whoa – totally right, I looked back at the listings for week 43. Nice to know the listing actually wasn't wrong. TV.com has ep details.

Looks like the Dom's plans to be the next…

This in itself is, like, totally awesome, but it gets even more awesomer: it's hosted by Dominic Bowden.

Wow. Now he's world famous in EnZed, and taking the world by storm.

I feel stupidly proud, and I think he's terrible at hosting those shows.

I always choose my words thoughtfully

I spotted the ironicness – I just wanted an excuse to use the visual pun 20mg = ZOMG!!!!

Nurse, we need a thesaurus in here, stat! Set it to superlative, and add 20MG of hyperbole.

Hey, I always choose my words thoughtfully. Send that nurse to someone who is truly illin'.

This in itself is, like, totally awesome, but it gets even more awesomer

Nurse, we need a thesaurus in here, stat! Set it to superlative, and add 20MG of hyperbole.

Hey I found Hex in the Listener, but they've got the little 'return season' marker on it – does anyone know, has an earlier season already screened (or is this a repeat)? I remember reading about it a while back but I didn't think it had been on yet.

No…

There's a new American TV series called the Next Great American Band. It's kind of a cross between Idol and Rockstar – it's bands competing for the prize, not individuals.

This in itself is, like, totally awesome, but it gets even more…

If you like watching possibly the biggest bunch of harmless weirdos imaginable dress up in…

but the youtube links (& I think google video) are identified when you post a simple youtube url on public address and it then gets interpreted correctly...

Yep. The guys were keen to keep real HTML out of the forums, so if you want to embed a YouTube or Google Video…

What's the secret Jon?

I don't think there is a secret...I can recall being baffled about it a number of months ago when I saw that someone had managed to embed youtube in the public address system....infact I spent a bit of time attempting to "guess" if there was a…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfY1qdmoVg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMfY1qdmoVg

Marie Osmond crashes on Dancing With The Stars

I can't find the one where Brooker politely suggests that Brits who like to sneer at American television should pull their heads out of their fat, stupid fucking arses

Word. It's interesting to look at the origins of the "quality" British TV that gets shown on TV here. We might…

Is it just me, or could Hiro's visit to feudal Japan have been written by Terry Pratchett? Cohen the Barbarian goes East...

So the gaijin is Cohen, and Hiro is... the Japanese version of Rincewind? Yeah, I can see that.

Hey I found Hex in the Listener, but they've got…

Charlie Brooker mocks it nicely in one of his screenswipes....

I can't find the one where Brooker politely suggests that Brits who like to sneer at American television should pull their heads out of their fat, stupid fucking arses and compare a randomly selected episode of The Wire to an…

One word: Heeeerrrrroooeeesss!

Pish...as awful as that rubbish X-men.

Charlie Brooker mocks it nicely in one of his screenswipes....think it's this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgnApSZSNw

Somehow I endured a Heroes episode, spent mainly wondering how TV had become sooooo bad.

Sounded like Tuhoe to me

It settles down after that opening bit of frantic scene-setting.

But to be fair, you can go to the other extreme and do a lot of enormously clumsy expository info-dumps, which become downright silly when folks decide to stand around telling each other what they've been doing for the last…

But too many things in the pilot were brought in abruptly. Matt's going through a divorce? Nathan's alive but not the Senator? George Takei is dead.

It settles down after that opening bit of frantic scene-setting.

Boy those Irish henchmen had some appalling accents!

Weren't they just?
"O'ho boy-o, let's have a wee look-see in dat dere coun-tain'r"
"Fiddly-dee-dee, potatoes and leprechauns"

But too many things in the pilot were brought in abruptly. Matt's going through a divorce? Nathan's alive but not the Senator? George Takei…

Where was Ali Larter? I found her character the lamest by a long stretch so wouldn't be sad if she had gone awol

Boy those Irish henchmen had some appalling accents!

...and Deborah Mailman. Where's their token Native Australian?

??? Deborah Mailman is the token Native Australian. But yeah, top series. When it came out in Aussie it was pay TV-only, so was winning (deserved) awards all over the place when nobody had really seen it.

Although the first episode might suffer a little from Desperate Housewives' disease, in that it has to do quite a bit of setting up plot again, after nearly all the loose ends were tied up at the end of season one.

I thought they avoided it rather well – but…