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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						YES! It's the beginning of possibility for change, and boy, do we need it.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2016 16:01:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/polity-budget-2016-fantasyplan/?p=361673#post361673</link>
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						<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11648166" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Breaking news</a> on the Herald. Labour has finally realised that we operate under an MMP system.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2016 15:46:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Today's Tremain
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				<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2016 14:34:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						One answer to the “why vote National Light?” question is, because otherwise we all get National Dark, and it can get extremely dark down at the bottom when they’re in. But that answer (like the question itself) assumes a FPP mindset. There are other alternatives, however much they may be…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2016 11:08:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Goodoh</title>
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						I haven't posted here in a long time, but I always enjoy reading the posts &ndash; great range, well-written etc etc.  But how bloody depressing to read the responses to this post. Every media report about National fucking up somehow turns into "but Labour is hopeless because they didn't take…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 20:42:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Meyers</title>
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						<p><q>I'm so old I remember when public address wasn't Rob Salmond's personal NATIONAL IS BAD MMMKAY blog</q></p><p>I like Rob's articles much better when they don't seem like they have come from the printing presses of Labour's PR dept. </p><p>There is some good analysis and description of the issues here…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 15:30:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Corin H</title>
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						<p><q>The last year where we have real data now is 2014/5 (released today), when house prices rose 11.1%. As late as May 2015, when that fiscal year was already over, Treasury was forecasting house prices or only 6.8%. They were miles out, even after the fact.</p><p>For this year and…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 10:03:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<q>In the end these two things may roughly cancel each other out</q>A highly unlikely outcome if, guided by these forecasts, the government does precisely the wrong thing about both.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 04:47:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alastair Thompson</title>
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						This kind of forecast bias is due to the methodology of forecasting. Since Crystal ball gazing is considered unscientific the forecast is always for things to return to where they are normally. So in housing's case that means pre-housing inflation madness... (and there is plenty of evidence that NZ housing…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2016 03:39:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>Would that all go into policing the laws that prevent polluting them, paying policy people to write more policy, and or actually filtering the water?</q></p><p>None of the above, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11645557" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">according to Russell Norman</a>. </p><p><q>OK, what about water? There's the $100 million allocated to the "Freshwater Improvement Fund".</p><p>Sounds good?</p><p>But in…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 09:15:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Would that all go into policing the laws that prevent polluting them, paying policy people to write more policy, and or actually filtering the water?</q></p><p>In the meantime, the "farmer" <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/80402875/jury-to-consider-if-nature-or-machinery-was-responsible-for-diverting-stream.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">found guilty of diverting a Taranaki stream</a> turns out to be a "landfarmer", i.e. his "farm" was a [[http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/295571/dairy-farmer-fined-for-landfarming-breaches|toxic waste…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 08:36:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						Whoops!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 07:57:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Haywood</title>
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						And a lovely tactful spelling correction in your quoted text, Ian! (A word that trips up an awful lot of people...)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 07:50:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>beyond the pale?</strong><br /><q>three separate budget posts from Rob</q><br />it has been 'Salmond chanted evening' indeed...<br />any more posts and one could take a fence!<br />;-  )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 07:21:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>I’m so old I remember when public address wasn’t Rob Salmond’s personal NATIONAL IS BAD MMMKAY blog</q></p><p>I did wonder if three seperate budget posts from Rob was really necessary. One considered post would probably be more effective and keep the related discussion in one place.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 06:54:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>SHG</title>
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						I'm so old I remember when public address wasn't Rob Salmond's personal NATIONAL IS BAD MMMKAY blog
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2016 00:31:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						<p>Why does the media report 'over production in Europe' when talking about the global milk market? </p><p>Meanwhile, the government continues to put money into irrigation schemes.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 20:42:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						Indeed, the whole government agenda, their budgets and whole laissez faire direction are mere fantasy to most of us. The so called “Kiwi dream” is also a fake, it is not what most think it is, as it is simply nothing but a modern day snake oil salesman’s pitch to…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 17:40:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 17:40:23 +1200</pubDate>
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