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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>It is time to vote these criminals out of office, as what they allowed to happen is criminal in my view.</q></p><p><q>It is time Labour and Greens make more efforts to attract and interest the missing million, there is no alternative </q></p><p>Funny,  isn't it,  that many of us are saying…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2016 23:06:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						The situation here in Auckland, where I live is becoming increasingly grim for renters. I have been on Trade Me and find few 2-brm units under $ 400, and a humble one near where I live now even advertised for $ 500 per week. This is for just a unit,…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2016 16:28:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						Who was "blaming" immigrants for the shortage of labour to build homes? It is bizarre how so many read stuff into words I used, which were not even meant to say what is assumed. I am astonished, indeed confused rather.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2016 00:44:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>On to of that there was the axing of many apprenticeships leading to the current shortage of construction workers. </q></p><p>Hell, much of the apprenticeship system itself went out the door with the passage of the old Employment Contracts Act, and NZ has been playing a game of catch-up since. On…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 21:53:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>This could be a possible solution to Auckland's housing problems:<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/79530315/airly-business-model-could-work-in-new-zealand-travel-agent-says" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">an airline that lets you fly as much as you want for a flat fee</a>.</p><p>One could even see the Uber business model being included &ndash; pilots with 100 hrs on Microsoft Flight Simulator and a few touch and goes…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 18:53:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>we do not even have enough builders and other tradespeople that are needed to catch up with demand.</q></p><p>Well, who can you blame for that? Labour?.... erm... no.<br />Back when all those leaky buildings were built, National changed the rules, moved the goalposts and unleveled the playing field. By kowtowing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 14:36:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>The Home Truths series didn’t address the following, which I think are crucial elements in the existence of property bubbles:</q></p><p>You also forgot the effect of weekly stories in that same newspaper highlighting the enormous amounts of wealth that could be generated by investing in the Auckland housing market.</p><p>Not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 10:32:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>the seeds of this were sewn</q></p><p>This enraged me unreasonably.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 10:28:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Really? Sure it’s a problem, but National have done more to “try” and fix it than Labour ever did.</q></p><p>More? Bill English, Paula Bennett, Nick Smith are the <a href="http://www.hnzc.co.nz/about-us/our-structure" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ministers</a> responsible for  HNZ and <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11631028" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this from the Herald</a> pretty much sums up their expertise.</p><p>Always with the jobs for the boys .…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 08:30:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						<p>From the post above:<br /><em>"It also tried to quell unease by giving certain home purchasers government grants to help buy homes. Not surprisingly, this had no helpful impact on house prices, as the extra money served to fuel demand rather than limit it."</em></p><p>Hear no evil, see no evil, hear…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:31:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kurt Mastrovich</title>
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						Nutters though the Tea Party are they at least have a vision, or visions as it were. I don't see that with National, more listless drones that occasionally discombobulate as Nick Smith has eagerly demonstrated.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 23:26:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						A true correction will unfortunately wipe out a lot of perceived wealth but we've been there in 87, it's time to get real with our economy and not some crazy fantasy of Auckland being an international bankers town, which is John Keys fantasy. Auckland changed.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>leeky buildings?</strong><br /><q> The tragic irony is that Key’s much-vaunted state house upbringing was in the pepper-potted suburb of Brydnwr</q><br />...that'd be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryndwr" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bryndwr</a><br />I love the description of the suburb, hell city, where Key grew up:<br /><q> Bryndwr (/ˈbrɪndwər/ brind-wər; Welsh: [brənˈduːr]) is a suburb in the north-west of Christchurch, New Zealand.…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:47:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						We need a one house, one citizen city. If you have excess money you put it in the marketplace. We need to have broader domestic commerce , a broader domestic scene  creates more ideas, and pure new business exists for one idea only, better ideas.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Wasn’t that Hobsonville? A good mix of social housing and private housing – scotched by Key as soon at the NACTs came into office.</q></p><p>Yeah, Hobsonville, The tragic irony is that Key's much-vaunted state house upbringing was in the pepper-potted suburb of Brydnwr – exactly the kind of mixed housing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:27:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						Capitalism is about creating services that extend the pleasure of life not buying each others houses, we all have to go to sleep somewhere every 16 hours. National are a strange party, textor crosbied to cross the line every 3 years but no real capitalist vision, and that's disgraceful from…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:26:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						<p>The Home Truths series didn't address the following, which I think are crucial elements in the existence of property bubbles:</p><p>&ndash; How banks rely on wholesale funding to fund mortgages</p><p>&ndash; How banks are deposits are created from loans and the extent of leverage that entails</p><p>&ndash; Since 1984, how…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:19:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lindsey Rea</title>
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						Wasn't that Hobsonville? A good mix of social housing and private housing &ndash; scotched by Key as soon at the NACTs came into office.
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Don't forget that Helensville was going to have lots of new state houses but it was in the PM's electorate so that had to go.
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				<title>Ian Pattison</title>
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						<p>The average house price went up $200,00 in Labour’s entire 9-year term. Under National, it went up 24% in one year (2015) which eclipses all increases that occurred under Labour.</p><p>National have done almost nothing to stop it. The SHAs have been a farce, the $50 million to secure land…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:02:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						rather than blaming the previous govt (the default) or passing off the problem due to you know history... this govt could have, you know, given many people a brighter future but they've consistently denied any problem existed, actively campaigned against all of labours and other parties plans to address the…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:57:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						Taxing is the most efficient means of taking immediate heat off the investment sector side of housing. Housing is a need for all citizens, not a bull market, it needs to be readdressed at its basic core, it is shelter , it is wrong to have it spiraling around like…
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>As I posted on another thread, when the UK government altered the tax treatment of mortgage interest in 1988, house prices went from rising rapidly to falling and dropped maybe 20%.</p><p>If you really want to stop house prices rising, you introduce a 100% tax on the amount the sale…</p>
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				<title>andrew001</title>
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						<p>"after 8 years of National being in power, calling the shots" ... </p><p>So what? All i'm saying is that everyone blames National for house prices in Auckland rising, when in fact the seeds of this were sewn decades ago. There is no quick fix. In fact, short of massively increasing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:15:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>House prices double in NZ under Labour, nothing to see here. <br />House prices double, in Auckland under National, massive problem of unbelievable proportions?</q><br />That was then, this is now... <br />you know, after 8 years of National being in power, calling the shots...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:06:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew001</title>
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						<p>House prices double in NZ under Labour, nothing to see here. House prices double, in Auckland under National, massive problem of unbelievable proportions? </p><p>Really? Sure it's a problem, but National have done more to "try" and fix it than Labour ever did.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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