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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Ahh, just worked out the syntax. As you were.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:59:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>So someone wanted to know the volume of an octagonal prism with stated dimensions.  Wolfram Alpha understands "volume of an octagonal prism" and gives you the formula, but DOESN'T understand when you then give it the dimensions, using it's own formulas nomenclature. <br />I would have kinda thought that was the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:58:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						A few tweaks and it'll be just the thing for maths homework. It needs to show working and have the ability to parse narrative problems.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 18:07:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						And global thermonuclear war isn't a fight between heavily-armed spheroids. I think if everyone understands a convenient phrase to mean something sensible, complaining that it should mean something silly is fairly pointless.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:24:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Knowledge Bro</title>
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						<blockquote>Knowlegde Bro is Ian Wishart in disguise? </blockquote>Ouch!
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:58:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Lord Lucan</p></blockquote><p>His Lordship is in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bingham,_7th_Earl_of_Lucan#New_Zealand" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Marton</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:53:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p>My favourite part of the FAQ is:</p><blockquote><p>It can only know things that are known</p></blockquote><p>Damn! And here I was hoping that it would prove the Riemann hypothesis, tell us what happens after death and identify the current location of Lord Lucan. But anyway, no-one tell Donald Rumsfeld.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:17:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Will be fascinating to see what future iterations of WA might capable of in about a decade...</p></blockquote><p>Dare I say it, be careful what you wish for...</p><p>Yrs<br />The Monkey's Paw</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:24:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Treating Alpha as just an answer box (from Associated Press. FACEPALM.) misses the point entirely. It’s not a knowledge base for humans.</p></blockquote><p>That may be so, but they're certainly dying for humans to access it. I've been on the mailing list for a while and the very strong implication of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:37:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alastair Jamieson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Interesting website... except that it thinks Kiwi only refers to fruit.</p></blockquote><p>It does a lot better with <em>Apteryx</em> </p><p>The online media and discussions about Wolfram Alpha remind me a lot of my first experience with an internet search engine c. 1996.  A guy whose name I don't recall raved about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:36:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a crack team of hot-shit robot librarians...the library is full of porn</p></blockquote><p>Hey, that sounds like my sort of library!</p><blockquote><p>On the bright side, Alpha works as pretty awesome statistics calculator.</p></blockquote><p>And the provision of data <em>as data</em>, as well as the ability to chart it and calculate with it,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:32:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Knowledge Bro</title>
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						<p>But. Back on point, as it were.<br />I doubt if any of us are surprised by the premise of Keith's article, do we remember the Wok/ Freeview story in T' Erald. Geeez. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the tech ed at T' Erald thought Wolfram Alpha was a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 11:01:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Knowledge Bro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>global warming is caused by the sun interacting with a few other things, a major one being the composition of the earth's atmosphere.</p></blockquote><p>Even Bigger SIGH...<br />The major one being the GLOBE.<br />Now, if you were refering to atmospheric warming i would agree but considering that the mass of the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:43:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What about us learning to understand the machine? Getting better feedback from the machine?</p></blockquote><p>Machines are basically cheap and getting cheaper; people are expensive.</p><p>(Quite aside from all the moral Taylorism issues and suchlike.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:34:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Hannah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Global warming is caused by the sun. End of story.</p></blockquote><p>Nah, that's just the beginning of the story, global warming is caused by the sun interacting with a few other things, a major one being the composition of the earth's atmosphere. More greenhouse gases equals more warming for a given…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:23:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Knowledge Bro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In theory, you should be able to ask a computer about global warming, and it will find that it is caused by greenhouse gases,</p></blockquote><p>Sigh...<br />If it did I would suggest that you re-boot and if it still gives you that answer you should re-format your hard drive and install…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:18:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Heh: <a href="http://www80.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1.21+gigawatts" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www80.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1.21+gigawatts</a>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:12:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Knightly</title>
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						<p>A lot of people's FAILs of WA are based on the idea that it should be able to understand us. That a computer should be able to understand English and NLP.</p><p>What about us learning to understand the machine? Getting better feedback from the machine?</p><p>This is one of WA's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:10:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It’s a knowledge base for machines. And it’s a really important building block to allow machines to understand things about the real world. This would, in turn and in time, allow us to understanding more things about the world.</p></blockquote><p>Viral marketing.  Sounds like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(fictional)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">skynet</a>.  It'll become self-aware just in time…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:54:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it didn't say where the sun set at 7:07pm.</p></blockquote><p>Yeh, it did. It picked up I was born in the supercity.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>On the bright side, Alpha works as pretty awesome statistics calculator. It’s basically the Mathematica suite as an online tool,</blockquote>That's what I thought interesting. I can see it having more benefit further down the line but then again it could be my fascination with mathematica.
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The sun set at 7.07 p.m on the day I was born don't you know.</p></blockquote><p>Umm. Doesn't that actually depend on where you were born ?  Since W|A doesn't know where you were born it cannot have provided the right answer.  It's answer was kinda incomplete &ndash; it didn't say…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						At least it's got some <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/wolfram-alpha-knows-the-secret-of-time-travel/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Easter Eggs</a>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:12:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						Bookmarked immediately.You have to applaud the idea.  The sun set at 7.07 p.m on the day I was born don't you know.
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						<p>Interesting website... except that it thinks Kiwi only refers to fruit.</p><p>I'll come back when it's ready a few more books...</p><p>(BTW &ndash; at least it knows the meaning of life...)</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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