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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fuck off and die, Keith.</p></blockquote><p>I'm pretty sure this is actually a barbed description of the SL government's justifications, not ones that Keith approves of. I understand that there are strong feelings here, but, y'know...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 08:58:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>"The real depressing thing is that heavy shelling *is* the government's attempt to evacuate refugees."</p><p>Fuck off and die, Keith.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:54:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Anna Ponna</title>
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						Although the link you provided (for your visit to the refugee camps)led me to a post that was written in 2007, the story is very similar. The young men are usually separated by the army and are generally killed. That’s what happened in 2007 and that’s what’s happening now. People…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:41:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ruby Dhaya</title>
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						<p>Please see this:</p><p><a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/grim+scenes+at+sri+lankan+camps+/3126257" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/grim+scenes+at+sri+lankan+camps+/3126257</a></p><p><br />And this:<br /><a href="http://my.telegraph.co.uk/chandradavid/blog/2009/05/04/a_paradise_turned_into_kingdom_of_vultures?from_comment=true&amp;message=WW91ciBjb21tZW50IGhhcyBub3cgYmVlbiBtYWRlIHB1YmxpYyE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://my.telegraph.co.uk/chandradavid/blog/2009/05/04/a_paradise_turned_into_kingdom_of_vultures?from_comment=true&amp;message=WW91ciBjb21tZW50IGhhcyBub3cgYmVlbiBtYWRlIHB1YmxpYyE</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:39:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ruby Dhaya</title>
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						<p>Oh one more thing Keith. Regarding</p><blockquote><p>don't think anyone actually thinks of these UN camps as concentration camps, not even those who call the war a campaign of genocide.</p></blockquote><p>You must surely know that these camps are NOT run by the UN if you have really walked through them...please get…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:31:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						That isn't to say that the Government of Sri Lanka are anything but fuckin terrible themselves. Both sides have plenty of people who should be pulled up for crimes against humanity. Again from HRW, this <a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/features/sri-lanka-trapped-and-under-fire" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">photo essay</a> is worth a watch.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:12:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Human shields, forced recruitment, child soldiers – they ARE creations of government propaganda!!!!</p></blockquote><p>Ruby, you're <a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2004/11/10/living-fear" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">full</a> <a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2008/12/15/trapped-and-mistreated-0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">of</a> <a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/node/80899/section/3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">it</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:09:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ruby Dhaya</title>
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						<p>Regarding the following statement by keith:<br />I don't think anyone actually thinks of these UN camps as concentration camps, not even those who call the war a campaign of genocide.</p><p>You are absolutely wrong. Not sure where you are getting this idea from. These camps are concentration camps that are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:40:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ruby Dhaya</title>
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						<p>Dear Keith,<br />I am very glad to read that you have visited Sri Lanka and the refugee camps there. However the content of your last post is by all means very deceptive to the average reader. You have portrayed some theories that are part of the Sri Lankan propaganda as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 14:28:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Human Rights Watch put out <a href="http://www.hrw.org/en/reports/2006/03/14/funding-final-war-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a very informative report</a> last year on how the LTTE suppresses dissent outside Sri Lanka. Extortion, violence, assassination, and other forms of intimidation and 'fundraising' are rife.</p><p>These tactics are very well known inside Sri Lanka. The LTTE can legitimately claim to be the only…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:34:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If the opposition is undertaking your genocide then surrendering your civillians to them is never a good idea. The narrative is genocide, it would be odd to turn up to one of these rallies with a sign saying in effect "Send Tamils to Conentration Camps".</p></blockquote><p>I don't think anyone actually…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:41:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Any group of 'freedom fighters' jump the shark the moment they set off a car bomb.</p></blockquote><p>Not saying that terrorism is justifiable, but uneven among unjustifiable actions, there are degrees.</p><p>There's a big difference, in my mind, between the indiscriminant killing of enemy civilians via bombings, versus the deliberate killing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:39:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You opposed the meaninglessness of Earth Hour but find great utility in a motion of the New Zealand House of Representatives? Interesting.</p></blockquote><p>I don't find great utility in it, no. It was a futile but, for lack of a better word, nice gesture in a situation where no clean solution…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:27:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...They've gathered in large numbers, displaying photos showing the grotesque aftermath of war, and calling for a stop to the “genocide” of Tamils.</p><p>They seem like perfectly genuine people when they tell me that they don’t care who wins, they just want the killing to stop. Yet, Nirmala Rajasingam, a…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:39:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Any group of 'freedom fighters' jump the shark the moment they set off a car bomb.</p><p>As Mike Davis <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/HD13Aa01.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">starkly describes it</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Fourth, like even the "smartest" of aerial bombs, car bombs are inherently indiscriminate: "collateral damage" is virtually inevitable. If the logic of an attack is to slaughter innocents…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 09:53:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, does Te Ururoa Flavell think that he is showing solidarity with fellow champions of ethnic self-determination with his stunt?</p></blockquote><p>You opposed the meaninglessness of <em>Earth Hour</em>  but find great utility in a motion of the New Zealand House of Representatives? Interesting.</p><p>You don't think that the House passing a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 09:19:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>The Maori Party is all about being a victim.</p><p>I've seen a lot of the Sri Lankan protests, and I've seen the harrowing images. But the LTTE are a savagely brutal and fanatical organisation who have forfeited all claim to being a desirable addition to the world community. </p><p>Sometimes, just…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>From the Herald:</p><blockquote><p>The Maori Party is traditionally reluctant to make comments on other countries...</p></blockquote><p>Don't they make comments on other countries all the time? Tariana Turia was on TV yesterday talking about Fiji. Hone Harawira went to Australia and spoke out about the treatment of Aborigines.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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