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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Boosh Wah See...</strong><br /><q>I would have gone for</q><br />Now that's more down wit' da kids!<br />I'd forgotten that episode, ta.</p><p>Guess I'm just an old pun crock relic...<br />;- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 13:47:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>Welcome to Bolton…</q></p><p>See, I would have gone for <a href="http://vimeo.com/12694725" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://vimeo.com/12694725</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 13:23:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>krothville</title>
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						<p><q>maybe someone’s afraid that JK wouldn’t show up if he thought he was going to be challenged.</q></p><p>More than "afraid", they *know* he won't front to an interview if he thinks he's actually going to have to pull his finger out of his arse about National's policies and priorities over…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 11:25:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>Why is Espiner asking Russel Norman about what the Labour Party is doing?<br />what a fecking waste of time …</q></p><p>Nothing’s changed, apparently.</p><p>This morning I switched on TVNZ only to see the PM’s extended commentry on what the Labour Party should be doing about its leadership, repeated from an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 11:17:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Why does Espiner think </q></p><p>There's your problem right there.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 08:30:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>I don’t think I’ll be able to quiet my mind at Yoga this morning…</q></p><p>Think of the rainbow.Touch the rainbow ;)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 08:27:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Christ in a Cortina!<br />Why is Espiner asking Russel Norman about what the Labour Party is doing?<br />what a fecking waste of time ...</p><p>Jeez RNZ, get on to the future or at least the present<br />stop sifting through the detritus of the past!</p><p>Why does Espiner think that any…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 08:23:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/onpoint-sunlight-resistance/?p=328070#post328070</link>
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						Granny reports TeamKey are busy waiting for <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11333204" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Uncle Sam.</a> No longer able to make up their own mind for us.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 08:13:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>After A Day At The Races...</strong><br /><q>Also, I’m pretty pissed off that all the coverage has been over the Labour leader thing, when will still have very little idea about what we can expect from the elected government over the next 3 years.</q><br /><strong>+1</strong><br />Usually after a big horse race,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 07:39:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Sunday News</q><br />Who buys (or reads) the <em>Sunday News</em> these days, I haven’t even seen one for years?<br />And isn’t it just Fairfax’s lowest common denominator  <em>Truth</em> clone?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 07:27:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						<p>This is the On Demand video from TV3 and The Nation, covering the talk and discussion between John Minto, Lisa Owen, former TV executive Mark Boyd and Sunday News editor Jonathan Milne:</p><p><a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/thenation/interview-media-coverage-of-the-election-campaign-2014092714" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/thenation/interview-media-coverage-of-the-election-campaign-2014092714</a></p><p>Clearly, the media do not take kindly to being criticised.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sept 2014 01:42:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>krothville</title>
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						<p><q>My conclusion is now, that the feedback was probably so critical, that TV3 decided to NOT publish the comments that Lisa Owen had actually asked viewers to make.</q></p><p>Probably they will publish carefully vetted comments, at a later time, when none of the audience has remembered about it to check.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 23:28:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Marc C</title>
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						This is a great post by Keith, and I admit that I had to read it twice, to fully understand his assessment of the media in this past last election campaign. Indeed, it is also my view, that the mainstream media has generally failed to do it's job. Some journalists…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 22:48:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Angela Hart</title>
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						So, are the comments being censored and skewed? Is it that bad?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 22:15:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dismal Soyanz</title>
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						Mine too.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 21:39:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						Ditto.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 20:02:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>krothville</title>
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						The Graun has deep coffers.  They're making a huge commitment to expanding coverage of the globe with as much local content as possible, and to long form and investigative journalism.  Now they're having a go at being subsidised by those who want to contribute to the paper's continuance, without resorting…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 19:41:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Mines not there. That's 1 so far.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 19:12:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>I have noticed the guardian has had a lot more NZ coverage since they opened their Aus bureau, so I'm sure that trend will continue. They've hired Toby Manhire (sp?) or have some kind of arrangement with him, though that might have just been for the election. At any rate,…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 18:44:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>cindy baxter</title>
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						<p>Comments on Fran's article appear to be ravingly in support.  <br />I wonder how many they rejected.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 16:46:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Toby is a New Zealander, but he spent some time working in the UK --- I remember him talking about his experiences at the Guardian for a Great Blend event, I think.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 12:14:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>But all the comments being disappeared? That’s strange. The editors should not go along with this bullshit.</q></p><p>Another one to watch to see what the Eds do. Fran O'Sullivan's article from yesterday &ndash; comment stream open, but none posted through yet.</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11332285" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11332285</a></p><p>Wouldn't it be interesting if they just simply…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 11:53:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p>From the article:<br /><q>It requires us to seek truth, whether the truth is ugly and discomfiting or whether it is reassuring and soothing. It requires us to ask questions – a lot of questions – of very powerful people, without fear or favour</q><br />Not just journalists have to do this…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sept 2014 11:08:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>krothville</title>
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						Ah right, sorry, I thought he was an NZ journo, my bad.  That's probably why they asked him to do their coverage, then.  Maybe he can get them to expand coverage.  I certainly rate the guardian's journalism higher than the print media's here.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 19:49:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Toby worked for the Guardian in the UK, managing their comment pages, I think. Which, well, someone give that guy a medal.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 19:46:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>krothville</title>
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						I have noticed the guardian has had a lot more NZ coverage since they opened their Aus bureau, so I'm sure that trend will continue.  They've hired Toby Manhire (sp?) or have some kind of arrangement with him, though that might have just been for the election. At any rate,…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 19:32:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						You find the trust fund...
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 18:26:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>CJM</title>
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						<p>Holy moly!<br />Can we have a NZ Guardian please?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 18:05:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						Holy shit (can we say that here?). Why am I not surprised.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 17:48:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Meanwhile, <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/the-acid-test-australian-journalists-must-ask-what-agenda-they-serve?CMP=soc_567" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">across the Tasman...</a>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 17:09:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						Wonder how the columnists are gearing up to condemn the man Mr Cunliffe who they seem to fear so much? David Cunliffe is going to put himself forward for due process for re-election and good luck for that David.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 16:11:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>CJM</title>
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						Roll on  with the paywall for the Herald. I think they're going to find that the online readership will drastically fall away. True, the comments will revert to the true-blue-believers stroking each others egos but the advertisers will be  seriously worried. Armstrong and O'Sullivan et al preaching to the converted…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Folks of Dotcom’s age (i.e., non baby boomers) are the ones they seek out and pay more attention to.</q></p><p>I like to think of us as "X Generation", although the term seems to almost have vanished. Maybe we won't get our whole 20 years of power, but I think we're…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>Why don’t they apply that to their columnists? Although it’s significant that the Herald notes that O’Sullivan is “A columnist for the NZ Herald” rather than a journalist.</q></p><p>I also find it ironic that The Herald's online community by a <strong> wide </strong> majority, don't see it Fran's way either.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 12:25:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Drinnan reminds us how <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11331581" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Collins thwarted implementation</a> of the Law Commission's proposals for regulating blogs while busy playing dirty politics through a couple of them.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 12:24:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p>I think it's very ironic that the Herald's commenting guideline says:<br /><q>We aim to have healthy debate. But we won't publish comments that abuse others</q></p><p>Why don't they apply that to their columnists? Although it's significant that the Herald notes that O'Sullivan is "A columnist for the NZ Herald" rather…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sept 2014 12:06:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>It won’t happen anytime soon. She’s too valuable to the Auckland country club set for it to happen.</q></p><p>Indeed. I do find it quite off-putting when I return to Kapiti (a place we used to live) as it is just so noticeable how folks with grey hair  outnumber the rest…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Geriatric or treat?</strong><br /> <q>Not that I know any other vindictive grandmas – all the grandmas I know (me being one) are loving, caring sorts.</q><br />Welcome to Bolton...<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CStfT8gCrjM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CStfT8gCrjM</a></p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>I do wish The Herald would retire the old girl. How could anyone think Fran O’Sullivan at her age had any idea about what the future will/should look like. She reminds me of a vindictive grandma – why, is anyone’s guess. A relic of times well and truly past.</q></p><p>It…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Anyone considering that, maybe, Labour needs young blood to rejuvenate itself should reflect on the words of <a href="http://news.sky.com/story/1341399/mps-sob-at-keep-your-mitts-off-my-nhs-speech " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Harry Smith of Barnsley at the British Labour Party conference</a> This is why the Labour Party exists. Harry Smith is 91.
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>I do wish The Herald would retire the old girl. How could anyone think Fran O’Sullivan at her age had any idea about what the future will/should look like. She reminds me of a vindictive grandma – why, is anyone’s guess. A relic of times well and truly past.</p><p>PS…</p>
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						<p><q> Roughly a million voted for National and another million didn't vote at all. The remainder voted for someone else.</q>So like I later said, More than Half Didn't Vote for National.<br />Some people just can't count, exactly half only helps if you want to emulate <a href="http://www.hazemagazine.co.uk/the-best-dennis-skinner-quotes " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Dennis Skinner</a>, British MP,…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Yes, I wonder if my comment will make it in . She deserved a whack for that one. It is nasty.
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						Well, you could say that too.  But then as well, there are the people critiquing her column apparently accepting her assertion that the two sets of information are equivalent, and governed by the same laws and norms.  But they're not.  And I see this happen all the time, not just…
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				<title>Ianmac</title>
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						Fran O'Sullivan's column today is very, very -ummmm nasty. Similar to what Slater writes but with bigger words.
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Not picking up on false equivalences, and subsequently falling for misdirection. </q></p><p>Fran's not falling for anything. She's <em>part</em> of the misdirection.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>“beltway” (where did that come from, anyway?</q><br />New Zealand’s capital, Wellington , is of course <a href="http://sansabelt.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sansabelt</a></p><p>There, I believe the ‘sphere of influence’ is known as <strong>The Thorndon Bubble!</strong><br />(despite <a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/nz-politics-daily-30-august-2013-ts-145197" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NBR's</a> push for the American descriptor ahead of The Thorndon Bubble, and 'Bowen Triangle' &ndash; which just sounds like Sherwood's…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>You know, for the last twenty years or so we’ve had outraged puritans, from, I don’t know, Kim Hill to John Banks, reviling this “postmodernism” thing that’s been taught in the universities</q></p><p>It’s more like twenty years since anyone’s prattled about the horrors of ‘postmodernism’. The real assault on academic…</p>
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				<title>stephen clover</title>
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						<p><q>“beltway” (where did that come from, anyway? </q></p><p>Washington DC (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_the_Beltway" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wiki</a>)</p>
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p>""And please can people stop saying half of New Zealand voted for National … sigh.""</p><p>"Can we say half of them didn’t?<br />I think, statisticaly, that is more accurate."</p><p>No it isn't. Roughly a million voted for National and another million didn't vote at all. The remainder voted for someone…</p>
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				<title>Rex Widerstrom</title>
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						<p>I think you're right, Andrew.</p><p>Which is why I've always taken a very Reithian view of the media's role as being to "inform, educate and entertain". Unfortunately, to suggest that the public need educating is seen as elitist / snobbish / "beltway" (where <em>did</em> that come from, anyway? It's being…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Politics historically : an arena of  much manipulation.</p><p>Media: The peoples journal.</p>
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				<title>krothville</title>
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						I think it's much more than that.
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						Dirty politics is a story of journalism gone fucked.
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						Sorry, I wasn't very clear.  I meant, perhaps, as in perhaps that's relevant to her false equivalences, perhaps it's not.  I know she's a right wing mouth piece and all.
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						Not perhaps. Did she ever talk to wail and co, did she talk to them? She needs to come clean, stop the trickiness.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Wonder how John Key's all important Flag Poll will go?<br />and if anyone will chop it down?</p>
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						<p>Perhaps.  But I think that no one has picked up on what seems to me to be a very important distinction re: the information both parties (S&amp;G v Key) released.</p><p>Which is actually a major problem I have with the media in this country.  Not picking up on false equivalences, and…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Wouldn’t the polling methods, advisory organisations and spending be a closely guarded secret for all parties?</q><br />Probably :) I suppose that's why I want to know. It's a good part of Hollow Men and Dirty Politics. Hager writing about it <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/510500/Nats-secret-advisers-accused-of-dirty-tricks-in-Aussie" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">in 2008</a></p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Moment of truth. Fran O S was a cheerleader for Sara Palin. S.P was like  a political litmus test. The people who vetted her , hard core Republicans, have now apologised  to the American people for their idiocy.</p><p>Fran lives on planet Fran, and she is dirty. Cathy O dirty.</p>
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						<p><q>Context &ndash; Hardly an attack on Snowden &ndash; just pointing out some hypocrisy.</p><p>"Bizarrely, it is somehow seen as perfectly all right for Dotcom and his associates to use stolen National Security Agency files to try to prove the Prime Minister a liar on how his Government has administered national…</q></p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						Sell TVNZ , Sell National Radio and start public broadcasting again. They are too tainted for recovery.
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				<title>Jan Rivers</title>
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						<p><q> suggest adding how journalistic ethics are being acted out, reflected on and maintained in newsrooms.</q></p><p>Thanks. Good idea.  There is some interesting information in the Transparency International 2013 report chapter on the media related to the lack of ethics training, a lack of clarity about  codes of conduct, and the…</p>
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						Hi @tussock.  Yes I've no argument about the unprecedented way in which this government has stomped on all the precedents and process.  I've <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-vision-and-dumbassery/?p=325259#post325259" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">complained about that in other recent PA threads</a> and it also needs to be addressed, but as well as this I think outright ignoring of the law…
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				<title>Jan Rivers</title>
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						<p>Thanks Rob. I'll add this into the mix. </p><p>I'm unsure whether this could be a conventional research project. Wouldn't  the polling methods, advisory organisations and spending be a closely guarded secret for all parties?</p>
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						<p><q>A Government that hasn’t given a toss before. We’ll see, I hope you are the correct one here.</q></p><p>I'm not sure what I'd be correct about, but I'm concerned.</p><p>I've no doubt we'll be getting more land placed under higher protection, simply because that's the most useful thing to do…</p>
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						Sure, I'm not doing anything more interesting right now anyway...
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				<title>Jan Rivers</title>
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						<p>Thanks Katharine, </p><p>I'm in touch with Action Station and we worked together on their democracy campaign before the election and we are in touch about this initiative but it's at a preliminary stage yet and I wanted to test the water on this to see whether it was an attractive…</p>
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						<p><q>After all, weeks – literally weeks – of Dirty Politics coverage didn’t move the polls at all.</p><p>Because "the media" (with damn few exceptions) didn't cover Dirty Politics as much as National's dismissal of Dirty Politics.</q></p><p>+1<br />Seriously.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>TPPA – US gets to write our law(apologies if it’s been linked to earlier)</q></p><p>Yep, that's why it's so dangerous. Team Key are going to cement that which they have been lining up in the past 6 years.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Found the article in Granny. <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=11331579" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Oil and Gas coming to Auckland next week</a>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1408/S00194/the-tppas-dirty-little-secret-how-us-could-write-nzs-laws.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">TPPA</a> &ndash; US gets to write our law<br />(apologies if it's been linked to earlier)</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>Republicans in Congress could kill it just because they don’t want to give Obama anything.</q></p><p>Fancy finding myself cheering on the GOP. Scum. But in this solitary circumstance, useful scum.</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<q>Anyway, this term and after there will probably be recurring announcements about new blocks of public land being more strongly protected.  Some will go into more National Parks, more Conservation Parks, or more Reserves, which is always going to reflect warm and fluffy karma back to the government of the…</q>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>@nzlemming, #renting, thanks. I'll have to find a better line for how good people like money for valid and morally sound reasons next time.</p><p>@48% #notamajority, I guess, if that's what helps y'all sleep at night. Imagine how much of "not a majority" of voters they'll have after specials. Sweet.…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q> Our best bet on dodging this particular bullet remains Japanese resistance.</q><br />Plus, even if the US trade negotiators get everything they ever dreamed of, getting TPPA through Congress isn’t assured. Republicans in Congress could kill it just because they don’t want to give Obama anything.</p>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>What evidence is there of any resistance to the TPPA on Key’s part at all?</q></p><p>None whatsoever. Our best bet on dodging this particular bullet remains <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/24/us-japan-trade-usa-idUSKCN0HJ2GV20140924" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Japanese</a> resistance. Long may it continue.</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>If they start by changing the classification of National parks</q></p><p>Something to keep an eye on on this topic, all three major parties (Nat, Lab, Green) agreed before the election that there’s a strong need to classify NZ’s stewardship land, and they’ve all had an intent to give the process…</p>
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				<title>Trevor Nicholls</title>
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						<p><q>or alternately a cave in on the TPPA in exchange for US support on our dollar and borrowing?</q></p><p>What evidence is there of any resistance to the TPPA on Key's part at all?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I suggest adding how journalistic ethics  are being acted out, reflected on and maintained in newsrooms.
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<q>The intention is for St Andrews Trust and Public Good to be part of the work with others to scope a plan to improve our democracy. One small but useful initiative, signalled at the conference would be to crowdfund for summer research scholarships to investigate some of the issues that…</q>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>Jan Rivers </p><p>Small organisations and trusts with these sorts of common objectives need to amalgamate under one banner. The key to any movement toward better democracy is to motivate, educate and enthuse those without vested interests – which means the young and the disenfranchised. This new organisation is to my…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>And we already sold of half the electricity generation. So who knows where the government going to get the farm subidys from.</q></p><p>To pay the interest bill and to defend our int'l credit rating, the Government's only choice I suspect will be to sell more assets, as I doubt they…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						3 months is becoming 12. Team Key may say not selling any more assets but what of vast tracks of land? Excuse, freeing up for much needed  housing development. NZ assets? Not at all. If they start by changing the classification of National parks….. and then there will be Farms…
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				<title>Jan Rivers</title>
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						<p>I was involved in a conference in early August. Democracy, ethics and the public good was held at St Andrews on the Terrace in Wellington. </p><p>The conference report is being finalised but conference delegates identified three topics as crucial for future work to re-strengthen our democracy. One is the quality…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 13:17:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>What a large proportion of New Zealanders want, in other words, isn’t ‘fairness’, it’s a war against the weak.</q></p><p>All the more so when the middle classes feel precarious and their dreams of making the 1% slip away. Then they start scapegoating the reds/greens/blacks/browns/yellows/pinks/rainbows or whatever colour a ‘hated minority’…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						As much as I love Jon Stewart he does live in a media world where he has a lot more material to draw on to make 4 nights a week's worth of pointing out the foibles of others &ndash; NZ's a much smaller place, I'd (wildly) guess that there's maybe…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 12:40:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>The answer to the media question doesn’t lie in a return to honorable public broadcasting and increased regulation around the Official Information Act.I think Jon Stewart is a better model.</q></p><p>Brilliant commentary. Yes, but when the Jon Stewart watchers want substance over sensationalism for the rest of their viewing/listening week…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>...now Dita De Boni lets loose</q><br />Ah well, there goes her welcome on RNZ's  'The Panel'...</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Have we started something here?First Pam ,now <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11331554" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dita De Boni</a> lets loose.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 11:29:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>National nailed it. Perfect campaign, beautiful responses, glib brush-offs because their voters didn’t want to hear excuses and explanations (if you’re explaining, you’re losing, they know that). Dirty Politics still cost them a bunch of seats.</q></p><p>Yes, that does need to be remembered. It was an outside shot that power…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:43:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>In a column about the media and their effect on the election it is almost perfect irony.</q></p><p>And she has no idea. Doubt she reads her comments section or she would not have posted that here.Cortex=Speargun= Bollocks. Dumbing down the masses or is she really blinded by the Key and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:32:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>No. I’m saying that if you don’t put a tick in a box every 3 years, then all the other democracy stuff you do is pretty much pointless.*</q></p><p>And you would be wrong about that. </p><p>Caveat: I didn't read your caveat. If I had I'd have answered</p><p><q>But trying to…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:27:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p><q>Maybe we can learn from baboons. Yes I’ve posted it before, but …..</q></p><p>Curse you for posting that before btw – I’m now halfway through a marathon watch of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD7E21BF91F3F9683" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sapolsky’s entire Human Bio 150 lecture series at Stanford</a>. The guy is a great speaker, and the material is utterly fascinating.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:19:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						This may be relevant: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11331543" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pam Corkery on the "puffed up little shits"</a>. She gives some examples of truly unprofessional behaviour.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:18:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						That's an excellent link, thanks Cindy. Much to think on there.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:12:24 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>I’m always amused/appalled by those people who declare that they registered a protest against the system by refusing to vote. No you didn’t, dude. Everyone just ignored you.</q></p><p>Indeed, the signal is lost in the noise. It needn't be, if <a href="http://publicaddress.net/speaker/compulsory-voting-and-election-turnout/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">voting were compulsory</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:05:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>st ephen</title>
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						<p><q>I felt Key’s use of the All Blacks behaviour to legitimate Jason Ede’s dirty work – just appalling </q><br />It did show where the real power lies in NZ though. Key claimed (in relation to the Nats accessing Labour's unprotected files) that <em>of course</em> the ABs would access the Wallabies' team…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 10:03:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Oh for the good old days when I was the only me on the internet, now there are thousands of me – we gave our kids both our surnames, they’re still unique</q></p><p>Exactly why I use nzlemming everywhere ;-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 09:29:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>almost perfect irony.</q><br />Ferrous the Key...?</p><p>Well, fear is the vector...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sept 2014 08:17:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Equivocation</strong> <br />&ndash; is that a job?</p><p>It looks easy, <br />I could do that...</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I can’t make head nor tail of this comment. Is it an in house joke?</q></p><p>No just an attempt to reframe her appalling column prior to the election as merely highlighting that both parties were carrying out illegal activities.</p><p>Of course it was an utterly false equivalence but rewriting history…</p>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q> It’s all in the presentation.</q><br />Well kind of..<br />More the narrative that we can think/believe is “true” or has “truthiness”<br />There has been times when a collective narrative held it all together overriding our personal narratives. The collective narrative is in serious trouble tho'. Perhaps we still hanker after that…</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>but not for Key to declassify New Zealand’s own files to prove he isn’t a liar</q></p><p>If he’d actually declassified files which had any relevance to the allegations then it might be worth at least arguing about that point in hindsight.  He didn't.  Now all he’s done is to bring…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>There used to be four (4) 'Ian Dalziels' in Canterbury, we all thought we were the 'Ian Dalziel' of course, I'm sure...... Its a tontine with no prize to be the last one!</q></p><p>Yeah I get that too &ndash; problem is they keep making more, I was bullied in high…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> I teach ethics to environmental science students at tertiary level. It’s amazing how few have been exposed to the subject.</q><br />I'm wondering how much it would cost to send everyone in New Zealand (or even just the ones who voted for Key (the "Trouble Clef') or his ilk, a copy…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>multiple manifestations...</strong><br /><q>....not <em>that</em> John Armstrong</q><br />There used to be four (4) 'Ian Dalziels' in Canterbury, we all thought we were <em>the</em> 'Ian Dalziel' of course, I'm sure...<br />I ran into an old acquaintance recently who I hadn't seen for many years, who told me he went to my funeral,…</p>
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				<title>NSA</title>
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						Regardless of context, the declassification of information related to Project CORTEX in no way contends to allegations that New Zealand’s GCSB is using Project SPEARGUN. These technologies are neither connected nor analogous. The NSA appreciates your concern.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>With ferns like this...</strong><br /><q>I felt Key’s use of the All Blacks behaviour to legitimate Jason Ede’s dirty work – just appalling</q><br />That, and his 'txt from Richie McCaw scam' &ndash; when opening the National Party conference this year he announced with great jubilation that he'd just had a txt…</p>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						I think it’s a matter of <em>who</em> is doing the releasing of official documents and why, Fran. Snowden released files that governments <em>didn’t</em> want released. That in itself says something about their content – that there’s something there they didn’t want the public to see. There’s a different power dynamic…
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				<title>Fran O&#039;Sullivan</title>
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						<p>Context &ndash; Hardly an attack on Snowden &ndash; just pointing out some hypocrisy.</p><p>"Bizarrely, it is somehow seen as perfectly all right for Dotcom and his associates to use stolen National Security Agency files to try to prove the Prime Minister a liar on how his Government has administered national…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>What a large proportion of New Zealanders want, in other words, isn't 'fairness', it's a war against the weak.</q></p><p>Quite. We hate feeling guilty at allowing poverty so we kick the poor.</p>
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						<q>if political journalism can decide (as it clearly has) that its primary focus should be on the spectacle – ie, on analysis of political outcomes (Eg: How will the public read it? What will the impact be? What does this mean for Winston? etc), then **it could just as easily…</q>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<p><q>I think Jon Stewart is a better model.</q><br />I think it's interesting in retrospect that one of the first consequences of reduced TVNZ funding under the new National government in 2008 was the permanent cancellation of <em>Eating Media Lunch</em>. It was almost like the Key administration and actually incisive political…</p>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p><q>As one of us commented previously, it's like the mirror image of the Big Lie &ndash; the truth is so big that the public refuse to believe it, especially if they perceive it to be an obstruction to their picket-fence way of life. </q></p><p>It's always worth talking about the way…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Thank god we arn'in Grate Briant... Berate Gratan ...    UK OK?<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvE8-_6BMA&amp;channel=HelmetBlissta" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvE8-_6BMA&amp;channel=HelmetBlissta</a></p>
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						<p><q>The difficulty is that these sorts of problems regularly arise in situations where the right answer is known or where the weight of evidence clearly favours the rejected view.</p><p>It's at least worth talking about the possibility that public understanding is being impeded by the ineffective presentation of evidence and…</q></p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Bring back Havoc &amp; Newsboy!</q><br />But then there is.....<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_E979iBR14&amp;channel=TVSeries1ful" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_E979iBR14&amp;channel=TVSeries1ful</a><br />Politics, doncha just luv it guvna?</p>
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						<p><q>The answer to the media question doesn't lie in a return to honorable public broadcasting and increased regulation around the Official Information Act.</q></p><p>Bring back Havoc &amp; Newsboy!</p><p>Still, a replacement for TVNZ7 is still a partial solution. If the Leveson &amp; Finkelstein Inquiries are anything to go by, a super-regulator like…</p>
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				<title>Creon Upton</title>
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						<p>Interesting discussion. I’ve read through it all before commenting, so I’ve just got some general two-cents’-worth on a few of the points raised…. (Sorry in advance: Too long; don’t bother to read….)</p><p>The problem I think is not so much that the media is entertainment and no longer The Fourth…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/250525/Who-is-John-Key " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> And...</a><br /><q>"It appeared to us there was a person taking positions in the New Zealand dollar, probably with a view to collapsing the currency at some point, or at least making it drop sharply," he said.</p><p>What happened next is the stuff of forex lore. Traders around the…</q></p>
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				<title>Alastair Thompson</title>
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						JK said it was a secret in his speech, from his colleagues.
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						<p><q>What are the salient facts that mean that Keith is not a hacker? </q><br />Well. First you have to determine the accepted meaning of the term.<br />The common definition is that of a person that can make a thing do what it was not designed to do, whether it be a…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>I teach ethics</q>As we all should.<q>John Key’s ethical approach/worldview </q>is that of a person that his spent his life in international banking and traded in the exact same stock that caused the GFC and we just gave him a mandate to continue his <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/250525/Who-is-John-Key " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> <strong>RAID™</strong>.</a><br />At which point all…</p>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p><q>maybe it's people like us and what we see as being "correct" who are ... wrong?</q></p><p>The difficulty is that these sorts of problems regularly arise in situations where the right answer is known or where the weight of evidence <a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/07/new-report-finds-cnn-and-fox-news-weaken-public/198775" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">clearly favours the rejected view</a>. </p><p>It's at least worth talking…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						Well thank you!  The fact of the matter is – there is so much to be said about John Key’s ethical approach/worldview that he makes an excellent subject for ‘real world’ case study examples for my students. I teach ethics to environmental science students at tertiary level. It’s amazing how…
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I should clarify: not that John Armstrong. I really should get around to amending my handle one of these days..</q></p><p><em>He's</em>  the one that sucks.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADgS_vMGgzY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADgS_vMGgzY</a></p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Re the online NZ Herald/Stuff National Party advertisements &ndash; is that normal? I recall seeing the NZ Herald one and I found it rather shocking (as did various foreign friends). I don't recall seeing such advertising before for political campaigns in NZ (but have for commercial services in the UK),…
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>I felt Key's use of the All Blacks behaviour to legitimate Jason Ede's dirty work &ndash; just appalling. He basically said they were cyber-spies when nothing could have been further from the truth.</q><br />You, Madam, are my new heroine. So few here see through the shit as well as you…</p>
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						<q>Just reading about Jarrod Gilbert over in the dirty politics thread, I’d like to say I would be quite happy to put my name into a website run by a trusted party that assigned me a OIA request that someone who didn’t want the government tippid off by who was…</q>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>There hasn’t been a question time in a while. Surely it’s at least possible that this will come up? :-)</q></p><p>Yes, it is a shame that Nicky couldn’t get the book out prior to Parliament rising. But it will most certainly be pursued with vigour, I’m sure.</p><p>In fact, I’d…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<q>I think that when it was first announced that the Labour computer had been rifled through and data taken [illegally I think] they should have been proactively finding and bringing the perpetrators  to justice instead of being made to look guilty for their [admittedly lax] security and issuing an apology.</q>…
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						<p><q>PS I haven’t posted for a while, so maybe I should clarify: not that John Armstrong. I really should get around to amending my handle one of these days..</q></p><p>I think the difference in tone was pretty obvious :-)</p>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						Just reading about Jarrod Gilbert over in the dirty politics thread, I'd like to say I would be quite happy to put my name into a website run by a trusted party that assigned me a OIA request that someone who didn't want the government tippid off by who was…
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>Parliament holds the PM to account, see. We basically told them not to worry.</q></p><p>I don't know <em>what</em> we told them and neither does the government, because the election doesn't ask people why they're voting for who they vote for.  For all we know, people might have just been saying…</p>
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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						PS I haven't posted for a while, so maybe I should clarify: not <em>that</em> John Armstrong. I really should get around to amending my handle one of these days..
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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						<q>Or are you really saying that John Key was so obviously a dirty lying liar the media should have said “Fuck it, we’re not even going to pretend to be objective any more, and we’re going to take everything in Hager’s book at face value and ignore any response from…</q>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<p><q>But this assumes we should want the media "to persuade" their audience about news stories.</q></p><p>I made this point quite explicit in the post &ndash; this is what journalists already do. I think the format of news hides that, but it's always there. When a politician does something which a…</p>
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				<title>dave stewart</title>
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						On the subject of the AB's. Perhaps it is only when they choke to script in next year's RWC that the love for this bunch of blue crooks will start to wear off. And given the apparent cosiness between the black team and the blue team there would be some…
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				<title>John Armstrong</title>
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						<p><q>The media is no longer part of the fourth estate, but are part of the entertainment industry.</q></p><p>Or, as a friend of mine once put it, 'the News is just another TV programme'.</p>
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				<title>Michael Homer</title>
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						<q>people who hacked into the Labour website</q>They really, really didn't. I wish people would stop saying this; it's needlessly inflammatory and false to the point of undermining any legitimate complaints that are attached to it.
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>But does that mean that Key should not have to answer any questions about Ede? That Collins should (almost) stay a minister? That Katherine Rich should stay on the HPA?</q></p><p>There hasn't been a question time in a while. Surely it's at least possible that this will come up? :-)</p>
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						<p>One plus in regard of this unsavoury affair is that the methods the National Party have been employing has know been brought to light and with a bit of thought they can be countered.<br />With the two track smear strategy seemingly originating in the States I'm sure there are tactics…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>EDIT: And of course, the list of people being slammed and smeared as “hackers” included … Keith Ng.</q></p><p>What are the salient facts that mean that Keith is not a hacker? (especially as might distinguish him from from Cameron Slater and Jason Ede and the Labour Party website?)</p>
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						yes don't confuse the fact that they got a majority of the seats in parliament with the percentage of the votes they got ... they got a parliamentary majority from less than 50% of the votes because of the  5% threshold and all the votes that were ignored as a…
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q> Majority of people who cared enough to vote.</q></p><p>The majority voted for Not National. 48% voted for National. That's not a majority.</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<q>I thought he changed over to the National Party when the campaign started with Joyce at the helm but had his Beehive pass after, when he should have forfeited it. Until then Ede was in the PM’s office, which is why it is said that we ,the taxpayer paid his…</q>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>even comparing it to something the All Blacks would do to the Wallabies.</q></p><p>Not "would do" &ndash; he actually said they "did do". </p><p>I was stunned by the statement, as he said it within the context of the All Blacks looking at the Wallabies accidentally unprotected confidential website data and…</p>
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						<p><q>So, you’ve got Nicky Hager asking people to read the book, because he needs sales for rent money rather than people just talking at it.</q></p><p>Ah, no, Nicky owns his own house (built it himself) and is mortgage free. He has other paying gigs. This book has been unexpectedly successful…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<q>I heard talk last year that the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment was getting help from some sections of the media in writing OIA's &ndash; because the Ministry for the Environment was refusing to give her office information requested. By law, they are required to give it to her, but…</q>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Political scum: Purposely wrecking character in order to taint a decision. </p><p>Character: Some poor bastard whose life is so publicly mauled  that  they quit out of protection and frustration.</p>
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				<title>James W</title>
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						Nixon had to resign because of the cover-up, not the crime. Key's genius is he never had to cover anything up – he fully admits to people in his administration dealing with people who hacked into the Labour website, even comparing it to something the All Blacks would do to…
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						<p>"These people are scum."</p><p>And they're back/still in power.</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						Ad prices  are variable, sometimes obscenely so, better to have a ad space sold than to have it vacant.  Budget. Election ads are lovely earners, like clients out of nowhere.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>From <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/features/00NZPHomeNews201407141/spending-limits-during-the-regulated-period-for-2014-general " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Parliament Website</a><br /><q>Spending limits also apply to individuals or groups who are not contesting the election directly but who wish to influence the outcome. These individuals or groups can spend up to $12,300 on election advertising during the regulated period without having to register with the Electoral…</q></p>
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						Stickering a newspaper is very expensive.I know this through a discussion with a company who wanted to sell the process,  and very controversial. A chain of supermarkets pulled a newspaper for this. The ad was for their grocery rivals ,and the newspapers were and still are displayed prominently at the…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>Stickering newpapers, buying the whole border of a an online newspaper, and sponsoring the news with your political party is a game of money, not fairness.</q></p><p>Also politics, and elections are supposed to be a competition of ideas, even a "marketplace of ideas" if you will &ndash; the party that's…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>The Ombudsman’s Office is in no way at fault. They are completely under-resourced.</q></p><p>I'm saying they finally are the ones doing anything. I applaud them,  just wish they weren't what appears to be, alone. I think your "under-resourced" is telling of itself. Cut funding and a Department gets stifled or…</p>
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				<title>cindy baxter</title>
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						<p>re: OIA:<br />I heard talk last year that the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment was getting help from some sections of the media in writing OIA's &ndash; because the Ministry for the Environment was refusing to give her office information requested. By law, they are required to give it to…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Nope &ndash; 2002 National disaster 20 something per cent of the popular vote and a shower of media shit for the party and its leaders before and after the election. Perhaps you were overseas or too young or had yet to immigrate</q><br />Too young? you flatter me. I remember it…</p>
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						<p><q> There is some doubt as to who actually was paying his wages.</q></p><p>I thought he changed over to the National Party  when the campaign started with Joyce at the helm but had his Beehive pass after, when he should have forfeited it. Until then Ede was in the PM’s office,…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						I'm not asking you to start sprouting superpowers. But just in case I wasn't clear enough earlier: I first read about Oravida in Chinese a long, long time before Oravida appeared in NZ's mainstream English-language media. And more than once I've read about the visit of some NZ official (mayor,…
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p><q>It just seems strange to me that there’s apparently no effective type of authority holding the PM and Cabinet to account when it comes to actually following the law and the documented rules, except themselves.</q><br />Us. We. The public. The voters. The ballot. We officially did not give a shit…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>Felix, as an aside, I do hope when Dame Beverley undertakes her investigation about allegations of Ministerial directives regarding OIA content/releases, that journalists will be better served in future as a result. And I got really queasy when I read your  comment about the IGIS appearance;</p><p>” I did find…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Gah I can’t find it now but someone has done the analysis and that is exactly the case. National has maintained about a million voters for ever.</q></p><p>That would be a fascinating piece of analysis, because "forever" is... well, since 2008.  Then again, if a week is a long time…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Stickering newpapers, buying the whole border of a an online newspaper, and sponsoring the news with your political party is a game of money, not fairness.</p><p>News is supposed to be clean.</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						News talk Zb , you are just the news.
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p><q>Because "the media" (with damn few exceptions) didn't cover Dirty Politics as much as National's dismissal of Dirty Politics.</q></p><p>You know, there was almost no one on the Dirty Politics side. The Greens put in a complaint to the police about the illegal bits. Labour said there should be an…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> It may be that people who don’t vote, don’t enrol, and aren’t able to enrol would be overwhelmingly opposed to national and vote for left-wing parties.</q></p><p>Gah I can't find it now but someone has done the analysis and that is exactly the case. National has maintained about a million…</p>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
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						The only way I could have written about it sooner was if I was prescient. Unfortunately that is a talent I am yet to develop.
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						<p><q>The whole bloody lot need to address it at least. The Ombudsman seems interested finally, but yes scrutiny in the Public Service , FMA, SFO, etc</q></p><p>The Ombudsman's Office is in no way at fault. They are completely under-resourced. I've had a lot of dealings with them over the last…</p>
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						<p><q>If he was employed by Parliamentary Services, then is the Speaker is ultimately responsible for his conduct? This issue of Parliamentary Services staff not understanding which branch of government they work for, Parliament or the executive, was made very apparent during the Kitteridge report leak.</q></p><p>If he was employed on…</p>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p><q>I'm always amused/appalled by those people who declare that they registered a protest against the system by refusing to vote. No you didn't, dude. Everyone just ignored you.</q><br />Well, no. The people who get the biggest share of the voters worked to discourage them from voting for anyone else. Spent…</p>
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						<p><q>The whole bloody lot need to address it at least. The Ombudsman seems interested finally, but yes scrutiny in the Public Service , FMA, SFO, etc</q></p><p>The Public Service has been hammered over the last decade or so.  The days of free and frank advice are largely gone, replaced by…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<q>No it isn’t. The point is this is simple math that is reported incorrectly all the time. I’m not saying National does not have a mandate, those are your words not mine. What I am saying is that repeating endlessly that National have the support of half of New Zealand…</q>
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				<title>Damian Christie</title>
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						<p><q>I thought The Herald giving its whole front page (large border around three sides, large square advertisement within actual page) to the National party on its online edition on friday before the election was pretty nakedly partisan.</q></p><p>Yeah that's called advertising it &ndash; they sell it, someone buys it -…</p>
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						<p><q>Danyl suggests an enforceable ongoing audit of OIA responsiveness as one answer to Dirty Politics.</q></p><p>It's a nice idea, but ultimately futile.  There is already a defacto audit, the Ombudsman tables a report in Parliament each year that names all those who have not complied with their legal requirements under…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Is there a reason why it needs to be journalism that’s responsible for this?  Why not (I don’t know)</q></p><p>The whole bloody lot need to address it at least. The Ombudsman seems interested finally, but yes scrutiny in the Public Service , FMA, SFO, etc</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>Or perhaps the more relevant question would be, on which date were Parliamentary Services notified that Ede was no longer in their employ?</q></p><p>If he was employed by Parliamentary Services, then is the Speaker is ultimately responsible for his conduct? This issue of Parliamentary Services staff not understanding which branch…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>“Secretly”? What was he supposed to do, announce each call at a press conference?</q></p><p>Key's words. He used "secretly" because he was told by headquarters not to. Wouldn't want to misquote him now.</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Require all government departments to proactively publish all OIA’able material on their websites and have the Ombudsman police them to make sure they really are putting all such material up? </q></p><p>Would also save millions on processing OIA requests. The problem we are at now, with government agencies, is that the…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Our e-mail culture amongst our polis needs to be clean and productive . They need to be the ruling Adults that they are paid to be. </p><p>OIA transparency is a a part of the cleaning.</p>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						Are putdowns a regular part of posts where you come from?
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						No problems. I could've been clearer.
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						Require all government departments to proactively publish all OIA'able material on their websites and have the Ombudsman police them to make sure they really are putting all such material up? And require all government departments to have an effective and easy-to-use directory and search function? Surely all the information that…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Danyl suggests an enforceable ongoing audit of OIA responsiveness as one answer to Dirty Politics.</q></p><p>Not a bad idea &mdash; though I'd like to see it applied all the way across the board.      The Official Information and the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Acts aren't suggested guidelines (if you…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						Maybe a new look at the role and provision of Official information. This is our information. Transparency of protocols are a must. Front page, herald , picture of a blinded face.  Imagine.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Danyl suggests an enforceable ongoing <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2014/09/25/oh-yeah-my-other-post-dirty-politics-clean-up-democracy-idea/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">audit of OIA responsiveness</a> as one answer to Dirty Politics.
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				<title>Tinakori</title>
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						<p>"You are kidding right? You are referring to the Brash defeat presumably, even Craig admits that National deserved to lose that one."</p><p>Nope &ndash; 2002 National disaster 20 something per cent of the popular vote and a shower of media shit for the party and its leaders before and after…</p>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>I spent most of the last few days wondering how getting 29.8% of the country to vote for you, gaining less than a majority of votes cast and then cobbling together a shonky coalition to gain a one seat advantage in parliament can be termed a "landslide". <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11328916" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11328916</a><br />And it has…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>So … are we not in a functioning democracy?</q></p><p>And not for two election periods in Canterbury where regional governance is concerned.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/3526047/ECan-councillors-sacked" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/3526047/ECan-councillors-sacked</a></p><p>AND</p><p><a href="http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/no-ecan-election-until-2016-keep-flow-water-management-bd-127847" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/no-ecan-election-until-2016-keep-flow-water-management-bd-127847</a></p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>I do agree that the Police should be reluctant to get involved in politics.</q></p><p>I see where you’re coming from and the Police were just a hand-wavey idea.  I don’t know the perfect solution.</p><p>It just seems strange to me that there’s apparently no effective type of authority holding the…</p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						Well said.
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>Maybe a rephrasing: Media isn’t (necessarily) responsible for the failure, but they are responsible for making it work again, because it’s their raison d’etre.</q></p><p>I think that you are wrong about this, but only insofar as it is no longer media's reason for existence.  Media is a business providing a…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>So … are we not in a functioning democracy?</q></p><p>Not a democracy functioning appropriately in the sense that individual rights are adequately protected from the abuse of executive power ... according to the New Zealand Law Society, that is:</p><p><a href="https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/68541/United-Nations,-Universal-Periodic-Review-17-6-13.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/68541/United-Nations,-Universal-Periodic-Review-17-6-13.pdf</a></p>
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				<title>Jack Harrison</title>
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						<p>Media bias and manipulation isn’t a new thing. It’s been well documented academically for about 30 years.</p><p>The economic drivers of media are very manipulable.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Read the rest of my comment. And what I was responding to. I don’t disagree that the Police should investigate and prosecute where there is evidence of the law being broken. I do agree that the Police should be reluctant to get involved in politics.</q></p><p>That's fair enough, and I…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>And remember Slaters ‘Canon’ award was given by the Heralds own Deborah Hill-Cone…</q></p><p>Who in turn was appointed by the CEO of the Newspaper Publishers Association, Rick Neville.</p>
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