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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						<p>Hagar was on Checkpoint saying that the book was "in limbo" and he couldn't be sure when it would come out.<br />Also of interest was Brash admitting that yesterday, when he said that he would not be stepping down, he knew that he was going to, today. Just a small…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:26:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well,</p><p>"sniff"</p><p>maybe you don't.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry, been out. And I'd really rather clap my own eyes on some of this stuff before I write about it, for obvious reasons. Hope you understand ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:33:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						<p>Well,</p><p>     "sniff"</p><p>                maybe you don't.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:30:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael Savidge</title>
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						<p>Russell, if it's already been announced that the book will be in shops by tomorrow...</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3876001a10,00.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3876001a10,00.html</a></p><p>why can't you start drip-feeding some real juice to us right now...</p><p>You know you want to......</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:58:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Russell: A lot of enterprise email systems, like Outlook+Exchange or Notes, replicate all emails from the server to a users local drive. Where they can easily be copied to a memory stick. For OL2003, this might be:<br />C:Documents and SettingsdrDonLocal SettingsApplication DataMicrosoftOutlookoutlook.ost.</p><p>Gary: He did promise before the election that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:48:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There's a previously unmentioned authorial hand behind the Orewa speech too.</p></blockquote><p>Would that be an ex-Act MP? Just wondering.</p><p>I am also really hoping that the timing Wishart's latest little expose is just coincidental and that none of our elected representatives (or their proxies) have a hand in that.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:10:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Looks like the spice is starting to flow now ... Like, which prominent, working media figure forgot to tell us he was providing media training for Brash?</p><p>There's a previously unmentioned authorial hand behind the Orewa speech too.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:44:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						Brash's comment to Noelle McCarthy this morning still rings in my ears....Why would the leader of a party that is ahead in the polls step down?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:00:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>And Dr Brash will give copies of his emails to Nicky Hager, thereby removing him from the application of the injunction (which only applies to those with the emails without consent).</p><p>The books gets out and Hager doesn't have to go to court &ndash; the networks might still want to,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:36:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Brash to Noelle McCarthy five hours ago: "I don't see any mood for change in caucus."</p><p>Ouch.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:33:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Just heard from someone who's seen an advance copy of The Hollow Men. It sounds like the emails aren't the half of it. There's a lot of high-level party correspondence involved, and likely embarrassment for a number of people.
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						I guess the remaining question is whether he hangs around as a back-bench list MP, or goes completly allowing the next on the list to step in.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:16:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Ballantyne</title>
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						<p>Yow! Game over!</p><p>He's gone!</p><p>Rejoice! Rejoice! </p><p>As Mrs Thatcher used to say.</p><p>Not that I'm really in favour of anything that makes the Nats more electable, but if there should happen to be a change of government I'd much rather it was a change to someone with at least…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:14:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						This just in: Brash has stepped down as Leader of the Opposition.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:08:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>have we established that Brash's emails were unlawfully taken en masse? By someone who had no right to access them?</p></blockquote><p>No. But it's a red herring.</p><p>If Brash wants to establish that his injunction applies to prevent the publication of <em>The Hollow Men</em>, then he'd have to establish a basis…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 13:00:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Lyndon Hood's pretty funny today ...</p><p><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0611/S00410.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0611/S00410.htm</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:51:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Thanks guys. Both useful and interesting.</p><p>But have we established that Brash's emails <em>were</em> unlawfully taken en masse? By someone who had no right to access them? And that there are thousands of them? Is that what Brash would have had to establish in court?</p><p>I'd also be interested in…</p>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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