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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The fact that education is a lifelong process encourages a certain humility about other people's mistakes.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make.</p><p>If you're trying to say that everyone makes mistakes and that they shouldn't be expected to carry the weight of those mistakes around for…</p>
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						<p>Fukuyama recently appeared on Newsnight with Polly Toynbee and Lord Lawson to discuss the relative historical importance of 1979 (the beginning of the Thatcher/Reagan period) and 1989 (the fall of communism).  It would be fair to say that Fukuyama was the most knowledgeable, articulate and interesting guest.</p><p>The fact that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 23:43:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, it seems to me that that's kind of like putting all your chips, plus your house, shirt, pants and family on red. And then it comes up black.</p></blockquote><p>Sounds like he was putting it all on 00.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:38:44 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I believe it is possible to articulate a position on social justice from a right perspective &ndash; that's what we miss when the voices of old-style conservatives are drowned out by the brash neo-lib extreme.</p><p>However, a bigot is a bigot. Fortunately, Bennett seems too decent to go down the…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 04:56:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote>That I believe is more appropriately called "abandoning ship". The whole thing was hilarious, in fact, as his criticism of Bush amounted to him saying "He did exactly what my friends and I urged him to do, and look at the consequences! That man must be stopped!" It really was…</blockquote>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I believe it is possible to articulate a position on social justice from a right perspective &ndash; that's what we miss when the voices of old-style conservatives are drowned out by the brash neo-lib extreme.</p></blockquote><p>Yes. It's unfortunate that <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/1999/mar/06/guardianobituaries" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lord Denning</a> fell off his perch before we could sort out…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 10:57:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>I believe it is possible to articulate a position on social justice from a right perspective &ndash; that's what we miss when the voices of old-style conservatives are drowned out by the brash neo-lib extreme. </p><p>However, a bigot is a bigot. Fortunately, Bennett seems too decent to go down the…</p>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p>The acknowledgement that some of our communities are disadvantaged presents an opportunity of a sort.</p><p>Sure, it's easy to be cynical about our newsmagnet Minister for Social Development when <a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/salvation+army+social+services+conference" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">she tells the Salvation Army</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Give a man a kumara and you feed him for a day. Teach him how grow…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I know I'll never hear another word from her without filtering it through her recent utterances. Better the racist/classist you know.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 10:41:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Well, Melissa Lee caused some merriment in Mangere this past couple of days. And some ire, also. The merriment was mostly about me living over "this side" and the ire was about, well, her hapless generalisations. Mostly though, the people who talked to me about it were well pleased she'd…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 07:25:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think a lot of Aucklanders would accept that South Auckland has its share of problems. But Melissa's comments hint at unattractively old school, is-what-it-is, us and them attitude to social development. You need to build a big wall, see.</p></blockquote><p>Welcome to Checkpoint Taare.</p><p>You are leaving the Asian Sector.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:19:12 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>I think a lot of Aucklanders would accept that South Auckland has its share of problems.  But Melissa's comments hint at unattractively old school, is-what-it-is, us and them attitude to social development.  You need to build a big wall, see.  </p><p>Not cool for a Mt Albert candidate, I would have…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but mid-way thru Dubya's term, he very publicly disowned himself from it</p></blockquote><p>That I believe is more appropriately called "abandoning ship". The whole thing was hilarious, in fact, as his criticism of Bush amounted to him saying "He did exactly what my friends and I urged him to do, and…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Francis Fukuyama used to be a key player of the neo-con movement &ndash; particularly the infamous Project For A New American Century &ndash; but mid-way thru Dubya's term, he very publicly disowned himself from it, to the point where he endorsed Obama for President. He's since formed a rival group…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... or were you thinking of someone else?</p></blockquote><p>Having (very) occasionally read her columns, I had formed the mental image of a *very* white person. Then again, nobody's whiter than Francis Fukuyama, but at least he has the decency to bear a surname that allows me to tick the appropriate…</p>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						... or were you thinking of someone else?
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						Well, she's a US citizen, but according to Wikipedia she has Filipino parents. Of Asian decent, then?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:04:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...a universe where commonsense prevails</p></blockquote><p>Fantasist.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						So... Michelle Malkin is Asian? Otherwise you've all officially confused the fuck out of me.
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I mean crossing the Pacific floor and then covering it up? That's going to take some work.</p></blockquote><p>Totally worth it to save Mount Albert from Pharaoh and his horsemen though.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>we might be able to arrive before we depart &ndash; relativistically.</p></blockquote><p>or even allow the highly strung to arrive beside themselves<br /><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227061.200-how-to-map-the-multiverse.html?page=3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">thread theory</a> even arriving in a universe where commonsense prevails</p><p>meanwhile I'm down the end of the garden<br />and away with the theories</p><p>yrs<br />Maxwell Silverhammer</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Actually I would have thought cut and cover would be more expensive.</p></blockquote><p>And a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunneling" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">tunnel</a> would shorten commutes considerably, do it right and we might be able to arrive before we depart &ndash; <a href="http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-160112.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">relativistically</a>.</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						I also wonder if Lee has informed NZTA that their motorway explicitly designed to speed driving times between South Auckland and the North-West is in fact going to do specifically the opposite? That's gotta hurt the cost/benefit.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the usual method, which involved going round and round it faster and faster until he achieved a sort of escape velocity and flew off at a tangent in a random direction</p></blockquote><p>So quantum physics  has dispensed with the "turning into pools of delicious melted butter" centrifugal outcome &ndash; damn -…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This would explain why the tunnel option costs so much.</p></blockquote><p>Actually I would have thought cut and cover would be more expensive.</p><p>I mean crossing the Pacific floor and then covering it up? That's going to take some work.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not surprising, the NZ left is incapable of noticing similar opinions when cultivated by their own Minister of Foreign Affairs.</p></blockquote><p>We've had our own Minister of Foreign Affairs? I guess Helen Clark was left when she did it for a few months. Nothing else in the past 20 years.</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If I can drive past Mt Albert and come out in Switzerland or Chile then I think the benefits of this road have been grossly undersold.</p></blockquote><p>This would explain why the tunnel option costs so much.</p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Personal experience has shown that motorways are excellent enablers of crime. They are particularly handy, for example, if you wish to evade police cars by driving against the flow of traffic at high speeds in a stolen vehicle.</p></blockquote><p>Not with the congestion projected by 2015... maybe if you were on…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We lefties always think when we expose a bigot that we have won the argument. We fail to notice that opinions like Ms Lee's are heard everyday on talkback radio and are held by many ordinary people.</p></blockquote><p>Totally. Being an overt racist is seen as courageous plain talking from those…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						If I can drive past Mt Albert and come out in Switzerland or Chile then I think the benefits of this road have been grossly undersold.
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh noes! They're all headed for Devonport.</p></blockquote><p>Not quite. See Douglas Adams' Standard Model Intrepretation of Ring Route Dynamics:</p><p>"He had extracted himself from the Cambridge one-way system by the usual method, which involved going round and round it faster and faster until he achieved a sort of escape velocity…</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We lefties always think when we expose a bigot that we have won the argument.</p></blockquote><p>Why should the NZ left think that?  To benefit would require some point of difference.  </p><p>This exposure of Melissa Lee took maybe two weeks of a campaign and is being chortled over by the left…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We lefties always think when we expose a bigot that we have won the argument. We fail to notice that opinions like Ms Lee's are heard everyday on talkback radio and are held by many ordinary people.</p></blockquote><p>Tend to agree.</p><p>There's a poll on 'Stuff' at the moment &ndash; 'what…</p>
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						Paul Holmes: "So, Senator Clinton, when you're not getting mani-pedis with Chelsea, do you read women's magazines?"
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						Tze Ming: Well, I do, of course (talk). All the time. But you know, anecdotal versus analysis and all that. "My wife's from Singapore" isn't a substitute for research. (You know all this better than me, I'm sure). I'd like the people paid to report this city/country, to at least…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also, even if Lee is coming off uninformed or unpleasant, I have a feeling she has more foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin, and even knows the name of the newspapers she reads.</p></blockquote><p>Interesting pick.</p><p>From <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0905/S00125.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sunday's Q+A</a>:</p><blockquote><p>PAUL Okay, and so when you're not spending time with your child…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Prediction: the result of the s59 referendum will not be a happy one.</p></blockquote><p>2ndary prediction: Given that it has no weight, National won't like that fact. What the hell do they then do with it?</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<blockquote>For all I know there could be a huge groundswell of support for Melissa Lee, or a secret war going on with Ravi Musuku's gang. There are thousands of Aucklanders arguing every day, whose voices people like me never hear. Who's going to tell us? Not the press gallery, certainly.</blockquote>We…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Clearly, DeepRed's comment wasn't directed at Tze Ming, but it didn't read well anyway.</p></blockquote><p>These things can happen while in a state of caffeine deprivation. My bad.</p>
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						@simon g: How could I fail to be moved by such a heartfelt plea.  I have the most practical of suggestions for you as to how to find out what Asians in Auckland are thinking, in my absence: Talk to some Asians. Asians who live in Auckland.  I am not…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To set the record straight, I intended my comments in a political context, not a sexual one. Something got lost in translation.</p></blockquote><p>It could certainly have been better phrased.</p><p>Clearly, DeepRed's comment <em>wasn't</em>  directed at Tze Ming, but it didn't read well anyway.</p><p>Perhaps we can all move on calmly…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Bugger. @Deepred &amp; Angus, you know that thing about sexists comments being counter-productive...?</p></blockquote><p>To set the record straight, I intended my comments in a political context, not a sexual one. Something got lost in translation.</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Please come back, Tze Ming!</p><p>One of the many 'matters arising' from all this is how little the MSM (generally Pakeha, male, etc) bother with analysing the views of various minority groups in politics. Melissa Lee = Asian + TV + hot = good. That's as much as we got,…</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Evidence suggests local Mount Albertians, not South Aucklanders, were responsible for the theft.</p></blockquote><p>And when mine was stolen in February, it was found in Pt Chev !  Surely this a business case for that motorway through Coyle Park, over Meola Reef and thenceforth onto Beachhaven ;)</p><blockquote><p>Uh, okay you guys.…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						I wonder what would have happened during the Election, if the Media had been so clever at their analysis and persistence when dealing with some of the more outrageous claims of some politicians???
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				<title>Ethan Tucker</title>
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						<p>Personal experience has shown that motorways are excellent enablers of crime.  They are particularly handy, for example, if you wish to evade police cars by driving against the flow of traffic at high speeds in a stolen vehicle.</p><p>(I should probably point out that I mean in Grand Theft Auto,…</p>
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						Uh, okay you guys.  I won't be back...
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				<title>Duncan McKenzie</title>
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						<p>Oddly enough, when our car was stolen last year, it was found (by us, not the police) in a car park on Allan Wood Park.  </p><p>Evidence suggests local Mount Albertians, not South Aucklanders, were responsible for the theft.</p><p>But what would have happened if the motorway was there...</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>I do wonder where Lee got her inspiration from.  A mate of mine joined the police in the mid-90s and he told me about the operational stereotypes that they used.</p><p>e.g.  Maori are petty-crims, Tongans are liars.</p><p>I wonder if this has morphed into "South Aucklanders do burglaries on the…</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To our American readers, think Sarah Palin's personality crossed with Michelle Malkin's body.</p></blockquote><p>And Joe Biden's oratory skillz.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						I haven't had any caffeine yet...
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						<p>@DeepRed: Why are you trying to make me angry?  Is it because you know I'm in London and that therefore you are safe?  </p><p>(You are not safe.)</p>
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						<p>Welcome back, Tze Ming!</p><p>To our American readers, think Sarah Palin's personality crossed with Michelle Malkin's body.</p>
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				<title>Tze Ming Mok</title>
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						<p><em>Actual thread from news article shared on Facebook by Person Of Colour #1.</em></p><p>[link posted to <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/News/PoliticsNews/Political-gaffs-leave-Melissa-Lees-campaign-in-tatters/tabid/419/articleID/104183/cat/67/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Political gaffes leave Melissa Lee's campaign in tatters"</a><br />POC1: "is dismayed.."</p><p>POC2: likes this. [I don't know how to interpret this &ndash; TMM]</p><p>POC3 at 8:50pm May 14<br />It's unbelievably disappointing and so unnecessary.…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Rome has had a motorway ring for some time and I can report that it has completely eliminated crime. Along with all other forms of non in-car human interaction.
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				<title>Julie Fairey</title>
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						Awesomeness in the morning, thanks Keith :-)
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				<title>David Slack</title>
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						Oh noes! They're all headed for Devonport.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I think that Melissa Lee's idea that criminals don't know how to get off a motorway unless it ends is a wonderful idea &ndash; it means our motorways will fill with stolen cars that will eventually run out of petrol dumping the miscreants at random points  &ndash; thus spreading crime…
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						<p>Who knew that the ring road had such vast crime fighting potential.  It's like a giant concrete circle of trust.</p><p>Anyone can divide Mt Albert and South Auckland, but you have to be really good at maths to integrate them.  tadah psssh</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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