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				<title>chris</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.studentloan.org.nz/blog/arrested-man-could-have-avoided-90000-in-interest" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.studentloan.org.nz/blog/arrested-man-could-have-avoided-90000-in-interest</a></p><p>I’ve not checked whether the removal of interest on islanders’ loans in 2010 wiped all historical interest, in fact I doubt that was the case for interest accrued prior to his departure in 2004. The number of relevant acts and amendments since 1990 makes research incredibly time consuming.</p>
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						<p><q>If you’re overseas and earning less than $19k (student, volunteer work, on the local dole, bludging off parents), do you have to make repayments?</q></p><p>Unless you notify IRD of your circumstances and successfully apply for a hardship application you are annually obligated to pay at <a href="http://www.ird.govt.nz/studentloans/payments/compulsory/overseas/sl-overseas-repayments.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">these rates</a> and penalised an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:30:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>If you're overseas and earning less than $19k (student, volunteer work, on the local dole, bludging off parents), do you have to make repayments?</p><p>I think the fact that you can be arrested for non-payment is another reason to argue loan repayments are a tax, not a debt.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:03:18 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>And sorry I didn’t have time to properly read your posts before posting that. One thing I’ve felt missing today, except from the IRD itself and Puna after the fact is the advice to contact the IRD to customise the arrangement to your circumstances. </p><p>It’s all very well these student…</p>
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						This was a shocker Izogi from all concerned. I’ve got to hand it to whoever targeted this particular individual. Having been a long time proponent against certain elements of the student loan system there’s little question in my mind now that any chance of overhauling any of these issues has…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 00:27:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q> Stick to this</q></p><p>That said, $35k/year is going to be <a href="http://www.mfem.gov.ck/income-tax" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">$31,010 after tax in the Cook Islands</a>.  Subtracting another $5,000 from that seems like a big chunk of income simply to retain repayment obligations so as to avoid being arrested on the next visit to NZ and to stop the…</p>
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						Interestingly, according to IRD, if he's been in the Cook Islands the entire time, <a href="http://www.ird.govt.nz/studentloans/overseas/interest-free/#09" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">he should have been able to apply for his loan to remain interest free</a>. The interest write-off relies on making repayments as required, though, which is presumably the problem.  At the very least you'd hope it'd…
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						<p><q>He’s just said on Campbell Live</q></p><p>Uh,  Checkpoint,  obviously.  Old habit.</p>
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						In that John Campbell interview, when first asked how much he earns Ngatokotoru states that the starting salary for his job is $25,000, then lacking the fundamental research  they <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201786482/teacher-says-arrest-for-not-paying-student-debt-unfair" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">reach a consensus that the repayment threshold is $30,000</a> (2:10).  later he states that he now earns $35,000. The student loan…
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						I assumed that although he graduated in 2003 he may have begun studying much earlier and perhaps missed a year or two somewhere along the line. Considering his age (he’d have turned 18 in about ’94) and the fact that he would have been eligible for allowances from about 1999…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2016 18:02:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>This one is all about the miracle of compound interest.</q></p><p>I can’t seem to make this add up.</p><p>The <a href="http://www.ird.govt.nz/studentloans/owing/interest/sl-rates-thresholds.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">maximum interest rate that IRD’s charged on student loan debt</a> is 9% per year, and that was 1996.  The maximum since 1999 has been 7%.</p><p>He’s just said on Campbell Live…</p>
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						<p>Well that was about as incorrect as it could possibly be, so Ngatokotoru Puna’s family paid a single annual repayment obligation.   The updated RNZ report states</p><p><q>He had made an arrangement with the IRD, he said. "They said if I paid for this year's obligation [$5000] then they would wipe…</q></p>
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						<p>ETA for those in the dark, the $5000 that Ngatokotoru Puna’s family paid for him to leave the country is equivalent to a single annual late payment fee (excl interest).  The interest accrued in the last year, if it had also been required, would be an additional $7400. </p><p><q>Puna accepted…</q></p>
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						The system seems to have edited me and not a moment too soon. I no longer have the energy, so we’ll just ignore the benefit systems' provisions for those unwilling to upskill in the tertiary sector, and stick with the claim that Ngatokotoru Puna’s issue was due to compound interest,…
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						<p><q>This one is all about the miracle of compound interest.</q></p><p>This is a</p>
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						<p><q>many students wouldn’t have the benefits of accommodation, electricity and food while studying.</q></p><p>And of course, if they weren't studying they wouldn't have those expenses.</p><p>You could argue that we should pay all students, even foreign students, enough to live on while they study, but I don't think that's this…</p>
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						<p>ETA</p><p>It turns out that the arrested defaulter is the <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11577974" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cook Island Prime Minister’s nephew</a>.</p><p>Steven Joyce:</p><p><q>"Our preference is that people just meet their obligations and that’s the important thing because you can’t forget that these people have had the benefit of loans from the tax payers to be educated.</q>…</p>
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						<p><q>$40,000 when he left New Zealand, but has since blown out to around $130,000 due to interest.</q></p><p>Thanks Izogi, quite possibly not an altogether unusual <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10884423" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">scenario</a> </p><p><q> As at April 30, 2013, there are more than 2,200 overseas-based student loan borrowers whose loan balances are over $100,000..</q></p><p>From your link:</p><p><q>He…</q></p>
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						<p>Radio NZ has had some significant coverage in its 11am news bulletin, but with nothing significant online just yet that I can find.  [Edit: <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/regional/294671/man-arrested-at-airport-over-loan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the online version has just been updated</a>.]</p><p>The 40 year old man is apparently claiming that his loan was about $40,000 when he left New Zealand,…</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/76142242/student-loan-defaulter-arrested-while-trying-to-leave-new-zealand" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">No.1</a></p><p><q>A Kiwi living overseas who refused to repay his student loan has been arrested at the New Zealand border.</p><p>This is the first time the sanction has been used. The man was detained on Monday while trying to leave the country, Inland Revenue confirmed. </p><p>He has lived overseas since…</q></p>
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						<p>ETA: the 30,000+ defaulters figure quoted above now appears to be <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/67605208/its-time-to-break-student-debt-taboo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">well shy</a> of the mark:</p><p><q>There were just under 109,500 overseas-based people with student debt at the end of June last year, and they were a collective $863.3million behind in their repayments, with over 70,000 of them not meeting…</q></p>
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						<p>About $7 million has been spent on a tracing system by which Inland Revenue is working with debt collectors in Australia and Britain to find borrowers and get them before the courts, some will keenly attribute success specifically to <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/budget-2013/8683203/Student-loan-defaulters-to-face-border-arrest " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this policy</a>,   </p><p><q>"This is working really well, particularly in Australia,…</q></p>
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						Stu has already dealt with 20+ staff members at the IRD Overseas borrowers Department, he is more than familiar with the fact that the system has been designed in such a way that rather than there being some superior qualified to make the ultimate decision as to future applications, his…
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						<p><q> Oh – and I forgot to add: Student debt is $12 Billion, with a bad-debt write-off of approximately 45%, so the taxypayer will have to find 5.4 Billion of this. Plust we are paying approx half a billionin interest.<br />So not only did I pay interest on my student loan,…</q></p>
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						Which are all beautifully miserable sob stories in their way.  We hear the entitlement of exiled ‘90s borrowers and we notice the dearth of 30-40 year olds in our society. We could, as Toby Manhire suggested, prioritise the immigration of more refugees to New Zealand, to take up the slack,…
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						<p><q>Maybe they had a gun to their head too. If they were happy to take the money, they should be happy to pay it back. <br />I had my student loan for 20 years &ndash; why should anyone who has blatantly avoided making repayments get a free ride?</q><br />ShaunL – stuff.co.nz…</p>
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						<p><strong>STUDENTS LOANED</strong></p><p>Having had some time to reflect and do some research I thought I’d come back to this topic: </p><p><q>Pretty sure I had to sign something to get a student loan. Marginally sure that something said that it was a loan, and that I had to pay it back</q>…</p>
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						<p>And just to rub a little salt in:The impending Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Bill: </p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/8685455/Hardship-a-growing-factor-in-loan-rows" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">A yet-to-be finalised responsible lending code accompanying the change may curtail companies' ability to lend to people who obviously cannot pay.</a></p>
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						The whole thing must be quite a lot smaller in reality. People paying a few billion in taxes that they never actually pay and have it show up as both tax and spending in government books is ... weird. Do they even keep track of where their actual tax comes…
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						IRD books things like Working For Families as costs while Treasury carries the interest on NZ's public debt. The actual costs of running the departments are dwarfed by this (in fact, very little of the governments costs are central administration).
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						Now that could be the answer to all my problems Sacha. I could see myself working in whale vomit.
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						<p><q>I slipped on some Whaleoil</q></p><p>apparently the vomit is valuable</p>
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						<p><q>Pretty sure I had to sign something to get a student loan. Marginally sure that something said that it was a loan, and that I had to pay it back</q></p><p>And Keith, beyond financial and legal considerations and your rather glib appraisal of the SL changes, I genuinely value the…</p>
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						The high life indeed Chris ~ So much for putting your heart into making a genuine contribution to the planet in a manner befitting one’s skill set.  So much for choosing a job with little or no environmental impact, a job which not only enables students to immigrate to, do…
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						What you left out of that equation, "chris", is just how easy it is to set us overseas borrowers up as a target, especially media so readily accepts whichever narrative the authorities, political, bureaucratic or economic, put forward. And especially because we're overseas. We must be living the high life…
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						<p><q>Oh, I think the Powers-that-be might have Private Prisons, ready to use you as cheap labour for a while, first…</q></p><p>Isn’t that basically the jist of the budget? Sure they’d have to accommodate me for more than a decade before I show any profit, but you know, compared to the…</p>
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						I want to know how brokers could possibly 'earn' $50-100m for selling off an electricity company?
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						Wow is the IRD + Treasury really <em>costing</em> us over 10 billion per year?
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						<p><strong>Serco Server Farms?</strong><br /><q>We are quite literally worth more dead than alive…</q><br />Oh, I think the Powers-that-be might have Private Prisons, ready to use you as cheap labour for a while, first...</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10884467" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">And another aspect of the budget that should've been done better</a>:</p><p><q>This budget is all about balancing the books. So let's take a quick look at our fair nation's biggest income generating activity: tourism. This alone is worth $23 billion to our economy, making it really quite important.</p><p>So why do…</q></p>
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						<p><q>There is absolutely no diligence of this kind whatsoever with regard to student debt. In that case, the deal is very different.</q></p><p>I remember one of my Russian lecturers likening student loans to the redemption payments the newly emancipated serfs in Russia had to make. The redemption payments were like…</p>
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						Thanks Ben, that's so much more coherent, I feel I can get some sleep now, cheers!
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						As a young man fresh out of school, I incurred 2 major debts. The first was my student loan. The second arose from a very poorly managed property development that I undertook. The debt left after all the dust settled from this development was more than my student debt, which…
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						<p>hehe, yeah I’m pretty torn up Ian, we’ve never seen much in the way of the symbolic self-immolation in ANZ but everyone has their limit, and having spent half a life as little more than fuel for the barbie what’s the difference. </p><p>As Willy Loman said to Charlie: __"After all…</p>
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						<p><strong>getting it off <em>your</em> chest...</strong><br />Well said, sir!<br /><q> <em>Education is more than a luxury; <br />it is a responsibility that society owes to itself.</em><br />Robin Cook</q><br />What size T-shirt does Hekia Parata take?</p>
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						<em>getting pretty aggressive</em> indeed.
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						<p><q>Pretty sure I had to sign something to get a student loan. Marginally sure that something said that it was a loan, and that I had to pay it back.</q></p><p>Pretty sure that at 17 I signed something to get a student loan without parental consent, marginally sure that the…</p>
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						<p><q>Nah, I reckon it’s better living in a third world country earning a wage that pays for an alright life in a third world country. ’Cept, of course, it’s not easy to pay off the loan, specially with the current exchange rates.</q></p><p>Yeah, it was almost tolerable until that announcement…</p>
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						<p><q>Which means you’re often better off on the dole in NZ than overseas working for minimum wage while looking for work. I’d like to think that’s not the design intention, but I am afraid that it is.</q></p><p>Nah, I reckon it's better living in a third world country earning a…</p>
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						<p><q>I figured as much but I thought I'd have a whinge anyway.</q></p><p>It's a whingeworthy topic.</p>
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						<p>You'd be much better off getting somebody to smuggle you out of the country by boat or whatever. so as to stay booked as resident.</p><p>Maybe that'll be the real reason John Key's imaginary boat people come to NZ, to load up with student grant refugees for the return trip.</p>
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						<p><q>Of course. I was using hyperbole.</q></p><p>I figured as much but I thought I'd have a whinge anyway.</p><p>I am serious about how quickly the postgraduate landscape has changed though.  My partner (far smarter and more diligent than I) has been looking to re-enter academia for the last three years.…</p>
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						One ugly part of the fixed repayment is that there's no flexibility. If you go overseas to find work, or become unemployed while there the IRD doesn't care. They'll happily ask for money you don't have and charge you penalties for not supplying it. Which means you're often better off…
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						<p><q>Unlikely:</q></p><p>Of course. I was using hyperbole. I don't know how anyone could possibly afford a PhD unless they were already rich, or had a master plan for the use of it (probably in academia, but maybe in some specialist industry).</p>
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						<p><q>hordes of very highly educated youngsters being unable to find work, unable to pay back any debt, flooding out to wherever there is work</q><br />This isn't already happening? The unemployed PhD is a fairly new but all-too-common thing, I fear :(</p>
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						<p><q>How long before a doctorate is really the bare minimum you need before you can be trusted with a cash till.</q></p><p>Unlikely:</p><p>i) The snobbery and misunderstanding around a doctorate will probably work against this in the long run.  By way of  a heuristic it was interesting to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/07/first-class-degree-robert-winston" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">read here</a>…</p>
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						<p>The student loan issue is an ugly one. Not least because of the huge sovereign risk that's been demonstrated (viz, you have a legally binding agreement where one party can, and does, change the terms at will... it's as though they're taking tips from FaceBook).</p><p>I went through the process…</p>
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						<p>And <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/budget-2013/8685385/House-prices-unlikely-to-fall-fast" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">who's driving</a> this policy?</p><p><q>"We've had a robust discussion with the Auckland Council because they're not consenting enough sections," he said.</p><p>"They need to get off their bums and do it."</p><p>Joyce said the Government would prefer not to have to intervene in the process but it wasn't prepared…</q></p>
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						<p>Considering the budget surplus of 75 million, I wonder if banking wide boys and Treasury has considered the impact of the likely defeat of the Australian Labor government this coming September (beyond whooping and back slapping each other that a right wing government is elected, that is).</p><p>No one really…</p>
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						<p><q>Which means in turn that people with good *science* degrees (not BAs) are working as shop assistants</q></p><p>How long before a doctorate is really the bare minimum you need before you can be trusted with a cash till.</p>
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						Brilliant chewy data. Makes the news commentary a bit facile.
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						<p><strong>it's all a glib shillen <em>(anag 4, 7)</em> </strong><br /><q>...these people wouldn’t know good faith if it bit them on the arse.</q><br />I quail at the gall of Bill English's glib Gotcha! :<br /><q>  __"...he expects discussion with councils about the supply of more housing will be tense, **because they were…</q></p>
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						<p><q>these people wouldn't know good faith if it bit them on the arse.</q></p><p>So true. Opposition could make some mileage about character.</p>
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						Which means in turn that people with good *science* degrees (not BAs) are working as shop assistants, school leavers are unemployed and former casual workers are sleeping on the street. (The number of street people in downtown Wellington has ballooned in the last few months).
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						They don't have jurisdiction, sure. But that doesn't mean those governments won't actually just honor the bills too, in some kind of reciprocal arrangement. I expect this will eventually happen. It's quite an amazing setup, really, that this kind of debt can hang over you in perpetuity. Any other kind…
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						<p>Apparently Len Brown gave an odd and distracted speech at the Auckland Writers and Readers Festival do last night. I'm guessing <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/135357/budget-housing-plans-endanger-auckland-accord" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this would be why</a>.</p><p>The housing initiatives in the Budget appear to dump all over the government's draft agreement on housing with Auckland Council. It sometimes seems that these…</p>
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						Meanwhile, the government is obviously very relaxed about how the <a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/2011/05/19/farmers-and-tax-the-irds-numbers/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">dairy sector paid $26mln in tax for the last available year</a>, <a href="http://www.stoppress.co.nz/blog/2013/05/google-nz-pays-165k-tax-boom-year-online-ad-spend" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Google paid $165k in tax</a> and all those people selling their million dollar houses for a substantial profit are paying a big round zero tax bill.
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						Yeah. So a bunch of students hire a mega-lawyer and contest the payment demands in a British or Aussie court, because what was a loan has morphed into a tax on the overseas earnings of non-residents. NZ doesn't have jurisdiction to do that (any more than the UK could suddenly…
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						Whilst I understand the frustration of having students with debts flitting off all footloose and carefree on their OE, threatening to put them under some sort of house arrest if they dare set foot back in their homeland is a really, really bad idea. However, it is a near perfect…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Pretty sure I had to sign something to get a student loan. Marginally sure that something said that it was a loan, and that I had to pay it back.</q></p><p>Pretty sure that happened to me too. I signed something that had some fairly clear terms regarding when and how…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>mortar-fied</strong><br /><q>Equivalent funding for PTEs? <br />That is bloody appalling!</q><br />...and I can't see how it is justifiable ?</p><p>Oh , that's right, the 'market' is too big to fail !<br />We have left 'unchartered' waters,<br />Sharks ahead...</p>
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				<title>Isla T</title>
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						It's higher repayment amounts for those with larger loans. So if you have a hefty loan, let's hope you have the income overseas that can cover the higher repayments. Fair enough (the out clause would be to come back to NZ of course).
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						The Student Loan changes are a tad worrying, given the exchange rate doesn't seem to be going down any time soon.
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						Right, but that was (or purported to be) a contract, so it was a loan. If the government then starts dicking around with the terms by statute, then it starts to take on more of the nature of a tax.
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				<title>steve black</title>
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						<p>Nice overview. Thanks Keith. </p><p>There seems to be a bad link in for GFYS in:</p><p><q>Signalling that Management, Commerce and Arts should GFYS: Other higher-cost subjects may see an increase in funding if necessary.</q></p><p>of am I just being punished for not using Chrome? I presume this is Go Fund…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						It's not a good budget for tertiary ed. We knew Teh Minister didn't like us much. But not how much :(
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>it might even be cheaper for them to come back. Maybe.</q></p><p>Big maybe. There's a lot of us and reports are jobs in NZ are hard to come by.</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Equivalent funding for PTEs?  That is bloody appalling!
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/257204/student-loan-defaulters-could-be-arrested-border" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">What the hell?!</a></p><p><q>Student loan borrowers who have defaulted on their repayments could be arrested at the border under new sanctions in Budget 2013 in a drive to increase student loan repayments.</q></p><p>So Corrections will be getting more money to build debtor's prisons?! But later in the article:</p><p><q>The Government…</q></p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						Pretty sure I had to sign something to get a student loan. Marginally sure that something said that it was a loan, and that I had to pay it back.
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						Well, if they're successful in chasing them to the ends of the earth (as long as they need a NZ passport), then there's no point in staying in exile. And with the fixed repayment obligations (i.e. Not related to income!) it might even be cheaper for them to come back.…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						In a footnote somewhere, funding for Public Broadcasting Services has been cut by $3.08 million. Sigh.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q><br />“Fixed repayment obligations and higher repayment thresholds for overseas-based borrowers” (I think they mean lower thresholds though. I think.)<br />“[Extending] the child support border arrest system for the most non-compliant overseas-based borrowers”<br />“Ongoing information-sharing agreement between IRD and Internal Affairs to collect contact details from passport applications”<br /></q></p><p>If I'm reading…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I also suspect that one day there'll be an overseas court challenge to NZ student loan repayments, whereby the expat and their lawyers will try and characterize the repayments as being a tax on non-residents foreign income (and thus unenforcable in the foreign state) rather than a civil debt. Changing…
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<q>Aside from raising the amount of money which is collected, it'll also make it less attractive to try to flee your student loan debt, or to get into the situation where interest continues to accrue without payment, building up to the point where it becomes impossible for graduates to move…</q>
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						<p>Gavealittle.</p><p>thanks Keith</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><q> Resumption of contribution to the NZ Super Fund has been delayed, again. </q><br />Booo.  And frustratingly that seems to have widespread political support...</p>
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				<title>Fooman</title>
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						<p>Just a placeholder for my upcoming note of appreciation...</p><p>FM</p>
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						Scoop's coverage will be at <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/features/budget2013.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.scoop.co.nz/features/budget2013.html</a>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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