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Sacha

Thu, 06 May 2010 14:07:14 +1200

an unsustainable fishing industry blaming their low catch results on other fish-eathing species

Such as recreational humans..

Ross Mason

Thu, 06 May 2010 14:00:05 +1200

What kind of response could be expected from the fishing industry if seal numbers were to reach 200k? 500k?

I find it fascinating that the population of all fish species – and seals – was the greatest just before man decided that he should/could "harvest" the sea.

Seals sure as…

Lucy Telfar Barnard

Thu, 06 May 2010 13:08:14 +1200

Nothing wrong with that. What I'm not so keen on is anyone actively encouraging people to do stupid things that will kill them.

And worse than that, making a profit from it.

SteveH

Thu, 06 May 2010 12:59:11 +1200

Apologies for my cousin. Somewhat wedded to the notion that people have a right to do stupid things that will kill them.

Nothing wrong with that. What I'm not so keen on is anyone actively encouraging people to do stupid things that will kill them.

Mikaere Curtis

Thu, 06 May 2010 10:57:07 +1200

What kind of response could be expected from the fishing industry if seal numbers were to reach 200k? 500k?

Is there anything more vile than an unsustainable fishing industry blaming their low catch results on other fish-eathing species ? As if these other species had a choice in the matter.…

Mark Graham

Thu, 06 May 2010 10:02:36 +1200

Apologies for my cousin. Somewhat wedded to the notion that people have a right to do stupid things that will kill them.

JackElder

Thu, 06 May 2010 09:48:27 +1200

I was once approached by an anti-smoking advocate (from ASH) who was doing the rounds of tables at a cafe at Vic Uni. He was so annoying that you could track his progress through the room by watching people deliberately light cigarettes to get him to go away. I saw…

Stephen Judd

Thu, 06 May 2010 07:44:59 +1200

Thinking about it, PR pretty much starts with Edwards Bernays making cigarettes acceptable, and PR and tobacco have been in love ever since. And Goebbels actually used Bernays' book Crystallizing Public Opinion in creating his propaganda strategy. 'Cause the state needs PR too.

There, do I win the tie-it-all-together prize?

Sacha

Thu, 06 May 2010 00:04:40 +1200

So you're saying "health nazi" is a well-worn phrase..

Keith Ng

Wed, 05 May 2010 22:32:02 +1200

I found this somewhat ironic, given that public health advocates for many years had difficulty getting the anti-smoking message across in Germany because the Nazis had been seriously anti-smoking, so being anti-smoking carried the taint of Nazism. (see for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tobacco_movement_in_Nazi_Germany)
'Course, you can bet once the war was over,…

Stephen Judd

Wed, 05 May 2010 22:11:01 +1200

The notion that the state has an interest in the health of your body so that you can serve the nation better is at heart a fascist one and I do feel a teeny bit uncomfortable with the way some public health advocates carry on sometimes, all hygiene and imperialism…

Lucy Telfar Barnard

Wed, 05 May 2010 20:05:06 +1200

Save yourselves some time. Just change your logo to a swastika.

I found this somewhat ironic, given that public health advocates for many years had difficulty getting the anti-smoking message across in Germany because the Nazis had been seriously anti-smoking, so being anti-smoking carried the taint of Nazism. (see for…

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 05 May 2010 16:34:03 +1200

Please can NACT draft Inwood as a candidate next time. Also Whalespunk. And the bloke from the apprentice who doesn't pay his bills.

Kyle Matthews

Wed, 05 May 2010 12:59:59 +1200

And since Big Tobacco didn't carry enough stench for you, you get the guy who does whaling *and* Big Tobacco. Save yourselves some time. Just change your logo to a swastika.

"The Baby-Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells" surely? Can't have you godwinning yourself before the discussion gets started.

Gabor Toth

Wed, 05 May 2010 12:57:22 +1200

This is not what people typically think of when they envisage whaling. We already have DOC approved whalebone harvesting, and I can't see what's wrong with the local hapu having the right to harvest unsaveable beached whales. So, in this case, TOK may have retained Inwoods services not because they…

Jose Barbosa

Wed, 05 May 2010 12:09:05 +1200

Sterling work Mr Ng.

Kumara Republic

Wed, 05 May 2010 12:08:51 +1200

My local dairys just started selling deep fried blubber. Delicious and nutricious, as they say.

Isn't that the same dairy that also sells elephant ivory flick-knives and kereru omelette?

Bart Janssen

Wed, 05 May 2010 11:36:42 +1200

Jeez Keith you have to remember you're blogger. Stick to the unsubstantiated opinion.

All those facts and relevant links make you start to look like a journalist.

Keep this up and people will start to take you seriously.

Paul Campbell

Wed, 05 May 2010 11:17:24 +1200

Oh – you're not supposed to EAT them, they're for smoking ...

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 05 May 2010 11:09:31 +1200

My local dairys just started selling deep fried blubber. Delicious and nutricious, as they say.

Mikaere Curtis

Wed, 05 May 2010 10:30:43 +1200

Save yourselves some time. Just change your logo to a swastika.

roflnui

Great post, Keith.

On the indigenous whaling point, the article states that:

In regard to Te Ohu Kaimoana, the trust was not "interested in whaling", but would be interested in taking meat from stranded beached whales unable to…

andin

Wed, 05 May 2010 09:26:29 +1200

Sooo is Herbert Morgan (CA) like the dirty old man of this crowd? The kind who is always trying to get people to reach into his coat pocket to get lolly.

Raymond A Francis

Wed, 05 May 2010 09:20:47 +1200

I always feel conspiracy stories just a little weird, there just seems to be too much joining up of dots
Just check out the ravings of some right wing bloggers where just the fact someone checked out a book on socialism or their sister-in –law went on a march for…

Jono

Wed, 05 May 2010 09:20:31 +1200

We know how the dots were joined, Keith. Nice work and a fine line walked without tipping over into the kind of self-rightesousness that comes all too easy with the subject matter.

Russell Brown

Wed, 05 May 2010 09:02:17 +1200

and awesome google bomb I'm sure.

My Google juice is Keith's Google juice.

Whoops

Wed, 05 May 2010 09:00:27 +1200

Great post, great reporting, and awesome google bomb I'm sure.

Kit McLean

Wed, 05 May 2010 08:37:20 +1200

All I can think of is the Chewbacca Defence (terrible quality video alert...). I rest my case.

You're not acknowledged. Of course.

I noted that myself. I gave Keith a mental hat tip on their behalf – small audience I know, but at least SOME credit was given.

Russell Brown

Wed, 05 May 2010 07:29:30 +1200

Nice.

Morning Report has your story, by Karen Gregory-Hunt, via ASH.

You're not acknowledged. Of course.

Public Address

Wed, 05 May 2010 07:29:30 +1200

Discussion from blog post.