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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						I don't think it's a matter of cheapness. I reckon many who would reject a million dollar bribe as an insult to their ethical standards would still have warm feelings towards someone who provides a kind word and a nice day out. People are funny like that.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 13:52:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Have we become that cheap?</p></blockquote><p>It's probably the flattery of any attention at all rather than the size of it</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 12:59:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>100 pounds gets you influence over a prominent MP? Have we become that cheap?</p></blockquote><p>One of the depressing features of New Zealand political life is that our politicians don't even try to keep us entertained with the really tasty sleaze and squalor our compatriots elsewhere in the Anglosphere enjoy on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 12:35:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Paul Adams has asked me to send you the enclosed £100 to help pay for your "Awayday". I do hope you will enjoy yourselves.</p></blockquote><p>100 pounds gets you influence over a prominent MP? Have we become that cheap?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 12:11:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>a case of robbing salt- <strong>peter</strong> to pay <strong>pall</strong> -bearers?<br /><a href="http://www.greenmuze.com/green-your/body/1936-coffin-cigarette-pack-.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Fag ends</a> anyone</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 11:48:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>The text of the infamous letter from British American Tobacco is as follows:</p><blockquote><p>Dear Mr Dunne,</p><p>Paul Adams has asked me to send you the enclosed £100 to help pay for your "Awayday". I do hope you will enjoy yourselves.</p><p>If at all possible, I should be grateful if you…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 11:02:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't truth a defence anymore?  The letter to Dunne inviting him to put his "expense claim" in is widely available.</p></blockquote><p>Might well be &mdash; but I don't think it's presumptuous to say Russell might prefer not having to justify the very big leap you've made in a defamation or contempt…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 10:52:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Isn't truth a defence anymore? The letter to Dunne inviting him to put his "expense claim" in is widely available.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 10:04:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Now could some-one drag Peter Dunne into the story to start rounding it out even more .......</p><p>Dunny boy was once wined and dined by Lord Rothmans over in england, a cheque was given to Dunny ............ British Imperial I presume ;-) .</p></blockquote><p>nz native:  Serious point &mdash; you might…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 09:22:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						And page 2 of the DomPost.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business-editors-picks/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501981&amp;objectid=10647023" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">And again today!</a> :)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 09:15:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brian Murphy</title>
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						<p>Score Keith!!!!  ^5</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10647023" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10647023</a></p><p>Looks like the chickens are home!</p><p>From the article</p><blockquote><p>But Imperial Tobacco's New Zealand sales and marketing director, Tony Meirs, last week told a Maori Affairs select committee the company was providing the ACR with public relations resources through Omeka Public Relations.</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 18:52:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						It's hardly a good sign when their wages are so low it makes sense to deploy them as cleaners
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 23:20:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Shona Sangster</title>
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						As someone whose mother works in one of rest homes listed on the Aged Care Association website, I reckon they'd feel quite comfortable in this company. She's a care giver in a closed Dementia ward where the (slightly above minimum wage) care givers have recently been told they now have…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>And what's telling is that the article states:</p><blockquote><p>None of the Auckland shops listed as "members" on ACR's website said they were in fact paying members. All but one said they had never even heard of the association.</p></blockquote><p>That reminds me of the Generation Lost astroturf job some 10 years…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 12:24:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>underscore_b</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hur? I assumed that the website was deliberately designed to look like it came out of the 80s, you know, as part of the astroturfing.</p></blockquote><p>No doubt, but <a href="http://www.acr.org.nz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">look at the actual functionality</a>. The colour scheme is the only thing retro about it.</p>
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				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
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						<p>teehee you said buttom button.<br />lets face it, we're lost in Astroturf, and good luck to you if you can find a way to save sensible argument from this marshmallow melodrama.</p><p>As billie the vision would say, i learned some swear words, i learned to use them And i stopped…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 02:02:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Quite a slick website, ACR. Any estimate on what it might have cost?</p></blockquote><p>Hur? I assumed that the website was deliberately designed to look like it came out of the 80s, you know, as part of the astroturfing.</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Quite a slick website, <a href="http://acr.org.nz/index.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ACR</a>. Any estimate on what it might have cost? <br />Mr Inwood reckons ACR is "... running off the smell of an oily rag". <br />How oily? <br />The website seems to have been <a href="https://secure.freeparking.co.nz/lookup/mini_whois.mv?domain_name=acr.org.nz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">registered by Dan Brown</a> at <a href="http://www.solmedia.co.nz/index.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sol media</a>.<br />If that's so, it's very very generous of…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And me.</p></blockquote><p>yet I have to settle for Cameron Brewer &ndash; ok, know my place</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Carrick Graham is now following you on Twitter!"</p><p>lol.</p></blockquote><p>And me.  </p><p>I'm a total follower-whore, but sorry, I don't want the eyeballs of scumbag tobacco company mouthpieces.  This is what the "block" buttom was invented for.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>you made the Herald</p></blockquote><p>Another NZPA story sourced from blogs, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10642716" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">bless them</a>.</p><blockquote><p>Green said the sole funding so far came from its members. It had employed two part time coordinators but it had yet to figure out how they would be funded, as it was still early days.</p><p>"I would love…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Paul Robeson</title>
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						Why don't you run a major daily?
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				<title>nz native</title>
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						<p>Now could some-one drag Peter Dunne into the story to start rounding it out even more .......</p><p>Dunny boy was once wined and dined by Lord Rothmans over in england,  a cheque was given to Dunny ............ British Imperial I presume ;-)    .</p><p>You've gota pick which drugs are about…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Thanks for the good work, Keith. Genuinely grateful you are shining some light into these dark corners- :)
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Oh look you made the Herald, media blogger Keith Ng.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>take a gander at what they issue press releases about.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I've been aware of NZACA under their previous name HCPNZ though I didn't know what company they were keeping. They're not at all shy about speaking on behalf of the elderly, though I have no problem with them addressing…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Feeling left out of the stalking love, can I perhaps controversially ask what aged care has in common with tobacco, whaling and shonky finance companies?</p></blockquote><p>Well, Te Ohu Kaimoana are in there as well. I certainly hope they're not looking to make use of Inglewood's pro-whaling PR.</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>can I perhaps controversially ask what aged care has in common with tobacco, whaling and shonky finance companies?</p></blockquote><p>Partaking in any of the last three will prematurely age you, making you a prime candidate for the first.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Sacha: <a href="http://nzaca.org.nz/media/press-release.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">take a gander at what they issue press releases about.</a>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						I remember earlier in this millennium, there was a propaganda exercise on radio called "More Radio Choice" which attacked the Clark-Anderton Govt's proposal for a youth radio station, using university-age voice-overs to target a specific demographic. The contact address was given as a Hotmail account, which was later revealed to…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Carrick Graham is now following you on Twitter!"</p></blockquote><p>and aren't you making it worth his while. :)</p><p>Feeling left out of the stalking love, can I perhaps controversially ask what aged care has in common with tobacco, whaling and shonky finance companies?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Carrick Graham is now following you on Twitter!"<br />lol.</p></blockquote><p>Me too!</p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The current journalistic fad for friending people to investigate them is far too creepy for me</p></blockquote><p>"Carrick Graham is now following you on Twitter!"</p><p>lol.</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>she appears to have a googly globally unique name &ndash; lucky her</p></blockquote><p>Me too.</p><p>I also have a monopoly on Graeme Edgler, and Graham Edgler, but there appears to be a Graham Edgeler with a single google-able reference in the UK =)</p>
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						<p>from that ACR site:  "The Association of Community Retailers represents the views of retailers on the wide range of issues "</p><p>that wide range appears to be tobacco sales, tobacco displays, tobacco-related crime, tobacco taxes and um alcohol and chocolate...</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						How interesting that the private rest home operators have rebranded as the "Aged Care Association" when all the trends are towards home-based care for older people rather than herding them into residential services (which double as long-term property investments).
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Yeah I decided to not go there &ndash; she is interesting for another reason &ndash; she appears to have a googly globally unique name &ndash; lucky her
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Denielle Boulieris, who they have running ACR appears to moonlight as a realtor.</p></blockquote><p>She's also <a href="http://www.facebook.com/denielle.boulieris?ref=sgm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a Shapeshifter and Fat Freddies fan</a>.</p><p>The current journalistic fad for friending people to investigate them is far too creepy for me, but her existing Facebook friends look like the Facebook friends of all other…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>You <em>can</em> bank on the whales...</strong><br />I note SpinItWide website is by Oxygen IT,<br />and I note the Director of Oxygen IT is<br />Stacey (Stace) Hema ...<br />&ndash; a.k.a. Glenn Hema Inwood's brother... (spokesmammal for the Japanese whalemeat and consumable nightshade industries...)</p><p>still nepotism ain't a crime, yet, right...?</p><p>hmmm…</p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Judging by the website, SpinItWide is basically an automated mass-email service to allow clients to spam media contacts and maintain their own contacts database. So although the Inwood connection is very interesting I wouldn't leap to the conclusion that all its clients are equally skeezy.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah. But it's a fairly...…</p>
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				<title>Keith Ng</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Carrick Graham is Doug Graham's son.</p><p>The Hollow Men had him sponsoring tables at a National fundraiser and hosting Brash and John Carter at British American Tobacco's offices.</p></blockquote><p>This is like Friends. Cast of half-dozen, and everyone's in bed with everyone.</p>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						Oh snap...
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3652483/Dairy-robbery-linked-to-tobacco-tax-hike" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">There appears to be an Association of Community Retailers too.</a></p><p>They blame dairy robberies on high tobacco prices.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<a href="http://www.acr.org.nz/media/pr/criminals-active-after-rise-in-tobacco-tax.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Very closely related indeed</a>.
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Any relation to the <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3641186/Last-gasp-for-smokes-at-the-old-prices" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"Community Retailers Association"</a>? Or is that an example of the media adding value to a press relase by getting it wrong?
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				<title>Joshua Drummond</title>
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						<p>What was FailOil's "comeback," just out of interest?</p><p>Oh, and congrats on the scoop to you and Rory. This is excellent stuff.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Inwood has also been involved with those quasi-suburbanists at Waterfront Watch.</p><p>Like the Melbourne Docklands, the Welly Waterfront still got developed, and it's still open to the public.</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The hippopotamus, for instance, is said to mark jungle trails by excreting a lethal mixture of urine and feces while twirling its tail like a propeller. This may explain the historically sluggish market for pet hippopotamuses.</p></blockquote><p>I saw a hippo do this at the zoo once. One of the craziest…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Judging by the website, SpinItWide is basically an automated mass-email service to allow clients to spam media contacts and maintain their own contacts database. So although the Inwood connection is very interesting I wouldn't leap to the conclusion that all its clients are equally skeezy.
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p>Denielle Boulieris, who they have running ACR appears to moonlight as a <a href="http://www.fullhousemanagement.co.nz/meet_the_team.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">realtor</a>.</p><p>And in an interesting case of possible plagiarism &ndash; text on their <a href="http://www.acr.org.nz/concerns/alcohol.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">alcohol page</a>:</p><p>"In 1999 Parliament voted against allowing dairies to sell wine and beer, which may come as a surprise to those who have seen…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Bet they want their money back now.</p></blockquote><p>So money doesn't influence politics?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Carrick Graham is Doug Graham's son.</p><p><em>The Hollow Men</em> had him <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2006/11/national-proudly-sponsored-by-tobacco.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">sponsoring tables at a National fundraiser and hosting Brash and John Carter at British American Tobacco's offices</a>.</p><p>Bet they want their money back now.</p>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						Could <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1004/S00274.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lombard</a> and Doug and Carrick Graham possibly be related somehow?
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						Also: the title of this post made me think of legendary quarterback <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joe_Namath" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Joe Namath</a> on the relative merits of Astroturf and grass...
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>SpinItWide? Really? No disrespect, but how thoroughly did they market-test that name? The mental image is <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/958/whats-up-with-cat-spray" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">not particularly pretty</a>:</p><blockquote><p>The hippopotamus, for instance, is said to mark jungle trails by excreting a lethal mixture of urine and feces while twirling its tail like a propeller. This may explain the historically…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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