Public Address | Cafe | Muse: TV Review: Night in the Garden of Pain https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Tamara https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=200991#post200991 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=200991#post200991 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:28:49 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198579#post198579 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198579#post198579 Cecelia – the film adaptation of "Hooks & Feelers" came out a looong time ago (1981?1983?) and I have forgotten any details about it (though I think the director was Melanie Reid?) The only copy I have is a -doubtless rotten – video-tape: have never heard of it being re-broadcast...

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]]> Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:08:16 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198472#post198472 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198472#post198472 However, it doesn’t tick the boxes of the fantasy genre. It’s more a male orientated sex comedy, with dramatic twists. And rooting.

That sounds exactly like Norse mythology to me — endless trouble caused by short tempers and an inability to keep their dicks in check. :)

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:40:07 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198471#post198471 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198471#post198471 Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:39:12 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198468#post198468 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198468#post198468 (Series one of Misfits was a pleasant surprise last year, and what I've seen of series two just keeps getting better.)

Heartily recommend Misfits. In particular the Nathan Young character is fantastically written and brilliantly played. Thanks to the people on here who recommended both that and The Walking Dead…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:33:36 +1300 Steve Parks https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198464#post198464 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198464#post198464 [Simon says:] And it really isn’t a fantasy show. There are fantasy elements, but it’s quite unlike anything else, I think.

You’ve gone from “it’s quite unlike anything else” to “It’s a male orientated sex comedy”.

It’s hard to know what to make of that promo. I’ll keep an open…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:15:56 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198458#post198458 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198458#post198458 Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:22:38 +1300 Aotearoan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198453#post198453 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198453#post198453 The book "Nights in the gardens of Spain" was OK actually and caught an era of gay life when people were less at ease with coming out & it was love in the time of AIDS- something not addressed at all by the "updated" treatment.

I too hate to bag local…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:09:16 +1300 Simon Bennett https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198441#post198441 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198441#post198441 Okay, fairy nuff Craig.

However, it doesn’t tick the boxes of the fantasy genre. It’s more a male orientated sex comedy, with dramatic twists. And rooting.

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:16:37 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198439#post198439 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198439#post198439 "The Makutu on Mrs Jones" was good, as a story and filmically- and I totally agree with your other point: there is a long Polynesian history of mahu/ fa'afa'ine so- WTF?
The whole sorry spectacle reminded me yet again of what I learned as a tv director: only some adaptations…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:15:02 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198438#post198438 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198438#post198438 And it really isn’t a fantasy show. There are fantasy elements, but it’s quite unlike anything else, I think.

*cough* When a large chunk of your cast are incarnations of Norse Gods (or something) living and rooting round the corner from Cheryl West, of course it bloody is – and…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:07:28 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198437#post198437 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198437#post198437 You know what Nights In the Gardens of Spain reminded me of? Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?. Kawa was much too perfect to be credible; everybody loves everything about him, except for the gayness, which they learn to tolerate. It doesn't really make for dramatic tension.

Also, Kawa seems virtually…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:05:27 +1300 Simon Bennett https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198432#post198432 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198432#post198432 If you’ll please excuse the shameless plug, there’s a Youtube for The Almighty Johnsons here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-lKzzWCYzU

And it really isn’t a fantasy show. There are fantasy elements, but it’s quite unlike anything else, I think.

I remember in the build up to Outrageous Fortune, some media outlets latched onto the…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:50:25 +1300 Cecelia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198431#post198431 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198431#post198431 Mounting horror is how I’d describe my reaction to Nights in the Gardens of Spain. It was a giant step back for television drama in NZ. I wanted to like it, but from early on the poor acting, poor productions values and unenlightened storyline just did my head in.

I…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:48:16 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198423#post198423 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198423#post198423 I think that perhaps as New Zealanders we can’t do ‘drama’ because ‘let’s pretend’ doesn’t work for our allegedly practical history.

I suspect James Griffin and Rachel Lang would beg to differ. I've noticed the publicity is straining not to use the f-word (that's fantasy) but I'm cautiously optimistic [[http://www.throng.co.nz/the-almighty-johnsons/the-almighty-johnsons-pilot-review|The…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:23:32 +1300 David Herkt https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198375#post198375 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198375#post198375 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NzJpxY_kV8&), however Leo had the added burdens of prostitution… ]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:32:13 +1300 Juha Saarinen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198357#post198357 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198357#post198357 Dressed To Kill in Michael Caine's autobiography a short while ago, thinking I'll make sure to give it a miss. ]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:04:06 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198347#post198347 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198347#post198347 Is it possible to parody Go Girls, badly or otherwise?

Well, yes. Go Girls isn't my cup of tea, but as guilty pleasure tosh it does the job with a modicum of style and intelligence. It's good bad television, if that makes any sense.

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:32:12 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198346#post198346 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198346#post198346 Maybe if they’d got a gay man invloved in the production it would have come across as less po-faced and patronising.

For that utterly naive statement, you will be tied to a chair and forced to watch Sex and the City 2 (which I mentally acronymize as “SCAT TOO”) Clockwork…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:29:34 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198342#post198342 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198342#post198342 (who’s screwing an evil white devil bimbo who escaped from a bad parody of Go Girls).

Is it possible to parody Go Girls, badly or otherwise?

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:15:05 +1300 philipmatthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198341#post198341 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198341#post198341 Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:11:36 +1300 Michael Stevens https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198338#post198338 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198338#post198338 Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:04:16 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198337#post198337 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-tv-review-night-in-the-garden-of-pain/?p=198337#post198337 Discussion from blog post.

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