Public Address | Cafe | Muse: The High Aesthetic Line https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198584#post198584 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198584#post198584 What is this I don't even

This is one of the main reasons I'm not completely anti the "Americanization" of many aspects of world entertainment. It gives producers in other countries with completely different storytelling traditions an opportunity to reinterpret the cliches of our genres and turn them into something…

]]> Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:47:10 +1300 Sam F https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198538#post198538 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198538#post198538 Seriously though, this is how you do an entertaining sci fi movie these days:

What is this I don't even

]]> Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:17:25 +1300 Josh Addison https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198515#post198515 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198515#post198515 Interestingly (I thought the prequels were average, but not the complete disaster many people thought), Yoda was the character I hated the most in the prequels. I thought they betrayed the later character by having him jump around like a spazz in the fight scenes.

I thought that captured his…

]]> Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:55:15 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198504#post198504 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198504#post198504 Seriously though, this is how you do an entertaining sci fi movie these days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOlz2ei4Yk

]]> Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:45:01 +1300 Steve Parks https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198475#post198475 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198475#post198475 Curious, Rotten Tomatoes agreed with my ordering of the merits of the films. From Wikipedia:

Film review site Rotten Tomatoes calculated an approval rating of 80% based on 250 reviews, making it the highest rated out of the prequel trilogy and the third highest-rated film of the entire Star Wars…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:52:01 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198460#post198460 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198460#post198460 Except for that one part where Yoda kicked some ass. I'll give you that.)

Interestingly (I thought the prequels were average, but not the complete disaster many people thought), Yoda was the character I hated the most in the prequels. I thought they betrayed the later character by having him…

]]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:26:25 +1300 Neil Morrison https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198088#post198088 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198088#post198088 It is fascinating how different directors direct actors.

Woody Allen doesn't have rehersals and often the first time an actor sees their lines is on set. That's a lot to do with having a brilliant casting agent and fits with the "I hired you so I don't have to tell…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:27:06 +1300 Islander https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198082#post198082 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198082#post198082 May I add, 'the importance of a really good film editor with an excellent relationship with the director?'
I spent a couple of years as a tv director.
My arse was saved, time and again, by good editors who taught me how FILM worked.
Book editors are a very different…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:00:07 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198080#post198080 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=198080#post198080 I’ll rein you in if you’re too far off what I need, but I trust you.” (Or as Stanley Kubrick reportedly once told an actor – "I can't tell you what I want, but that wasn't it.")

Which is absolutely fine...it's not actually lack of direction, if you see what…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:58:14 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197992#post197992 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197992#post197992 Yup, the action sequences were still very well done. I don't think anyone's really captured the "titanic space battle" quite so well as Lucas.

The key there is that Lucas, much like Peter Jackson, is a fanboy of the old matinees-his space battles are WWII dog fights writ large, with…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:50:02 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197990#post197990 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197990#post197990 Please don’t underestimate the importance of a really good director. Actors, even really, really good ones, who have been given no direction, or, as I suspect happens often, have no faith/trust in the director, will give their best, but it will not be a patch on what a good director… ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:39:08 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197956#post197956 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197956#post197956 Please don't underestimate the importance of a really good director. Actors, even really, really good ones, who have been given no direction, or, as I suspect happens often, have no faith/trust in the director, will give their best, but it will not be a patch on what a good director… ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:40:23 +1300 Sam F https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197955#post197955 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197955#post197955 Yup, the action sequences were still very well done. I don't think anyone's really captured the "titanic space battle" quite so well as Lucas.

I recall some impressive moments in Starship Troopers but otherwise, yeah, he does do that stuff very very well.

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:39:55 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197942#post197942 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197942#post197942 Curious, Rotten Tomatoes agreed with my ordering of the merits of the films. From Wikipedia:
Film review site Rotten Tomatoes calculated an approval rating of 80% based on 250 reviews, making it the highest rated out of the prequel trilogy and the third highest-rated film of the entire Star Wars…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:16:49 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197939#post197939 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197939#post197939 Just when I was building up a good head of loathing, Lucas would whip out a bit of imagery, or design, or short sequence that would really....just... work, and which was recognisably Star Wars.

Yup, the action sequences were still very well done. I don't think anyone's really captured the…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:11:09 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197924#post197924 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197924#post197924 Except for that one part where Yoda kicked some ass. I'll give you that.)

I think that was what annoyed (horrified) me most about the prequels. Just when I was building up a good head of loathing, Lucas would whip out a bit of imagery, or design, or short sequence…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:37:53 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197893#post197893 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197893#post197893 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:45:19 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197892#post197892 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197892#post197892 It’s really, really easy to underestimate how important good actors are to a film or TV program’s success; the writing is important, but really good actors can take a basically mediocre script beyond itself.

Please don't underestimate the importance of a really good director. Actors, even really, really good ones,…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:44:07 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197886#post197886 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197886#post197886 Crikey. So gringe doesn't mean peevish and petulant, as I thought?

Didn't know I could speak Savoyard.

Just stick with Grinch. Probably safest.

ETA: This was in reference to the post now on CT's blog, rather than yours. FWIW.

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:38:27 +1300 Boganette https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197885#post197885 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197885#post197885 YAY! So great to see you blogging Craig. I'm another squeeing fan girl leaping around in your corner.

I haven't ever seen Star Wars. It just never happened. I know, maybe that is a tiny bit weird.

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:37:56 +1300 David Herkt https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197884#post197884 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197884#post197884 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:31:27 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197882#post197882 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197882#post197882 You seem to think it's OK to lambast Ihimaera, but not Kate McDermott?

Well, yes because so much of what doesn't work on screen is lifted straight from the book (the adorable moppet with the sodding fairy wand, our Humble Narrator's stalkerish tendencies and tooth-grinding self-pity) and it doesn't really…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:25:30 +1300 Andre https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197877#post197877 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197877#post197877 "I do note that Key & English seem to lean heavily on the dark side."

The beehive does occasionally resemble a death star.
I wonder what the star wars equivalent of driving a tractor up the front steps on behalf of wealthy farmers is?
Does Darth's number two have a primary…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:18:23 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197873#post197873 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197873#post197873 cultural grins... :- )

or did you mean Grinch? ;- (

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:55:01 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197872#post197872 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197872#post197872 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:53:54 +1300 philipmatthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197871#post197871 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197871#post197871 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:51:05 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197870#post197870 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197870#post197870 Craig, I'm not trying to attack anyone involved with the adaptation of Nights in the Gardens of Spain. And I must confess it's many years since I read the book, and I might see it differently on re-reading. I'm just giving my honest response.

You seem to think it's OK…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:43:29 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197869#post197869 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197869#post197869 gringe? ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:40:48 +1300 Ian Dalziel https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197868#post197868 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197868#post197868 Nom de grrrr?...
Good to see that the recycling ethic is strong at Public Address – Muse being previously used here as part of the title of Chad Taylor's PA Blog Muse Lounge back in the early years of the 21st century, sadly now gone from PA – but [[http://publicaddress.net/about-muse-lounge/|vestigial traces…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:24:19 +1300 DexterX https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197867#post197867 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197867#post197867 Are you Sidious?, Revenge of the Sith wasn’t puerile – it would have been more authentic had Ratzinger got the gig – but otherwise it was a blast.

With the census I declare my religion as Jedi and my occupation as spaceman.

It may be that the other 33,000 were…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:24:14 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197866#post197866 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197866#post197866 The sanitised tv version loses the edginess and the emotional power the book had.

First, a little disclosure is in order. I'm casually acquainted with Kate McDermott(who I've invited to write a guest post in response to various reviews that have attacked her harshly and directly), and anyone who followed…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:21:21 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197864#post197864 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197864#post197864 OK so I watched the tv adaptation of Nights in the Gardens of Spain, and was really underwhelmed. It was so sentimental and plodding.

As I remember the book, David's secret life is very complicated and crowded, with his anonymous sexual partners, his romantic attachments, his ex-lovers, his acquaintances and…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:52:55 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197862#post197862 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197862#post197862 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzXKySxPFCI ]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:52:10 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197861#post197861 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197861#post197861 ZOMG Bea Arthur was in it!!

And Jefferson Starship! And Carrie Fisher sings! It's just...I can't even describe it, you have to watch it.

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:42:45 +1300 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197860#post197860 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197860#post197860 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 08:35:57 +1300 Amy Gale https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197856#post197856 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197856#post197856 YEah, but the weird thing is that Naboo has an elected monarchy — with term-limits, no less.

Darths and Droids provides a plausible explanation for this, and much else besides.

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:04:28 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197855#post197855 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197855#post197855 You will report on whether any shirts are removed, or decorative ponds swum through in frustration?

Please do, or there'll be no point me seeing it.

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 05:26:34 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197854#post197854 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197854#post197854 I think this is a key part of the explanation; the actors were better in the first trilogy.

This reminds me of what happened to Coupling when they took it to America; nearly the exact same scripts, different actors, total failure. It's really, really easy to underestimate how important good…

]]> Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:55:03 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197850#post197850 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197850#post197850 You will report on whether any shirts are removed, or decorative ponds swum through in frustration?

Putting aside his rather unfortunate foray into comic pseudo-science, Colin Firth is a rather interesting actor who isn’t afraid to under-play. And who would have guessed Helena Bonham-Carter’s Elizabeth is tender and rather moving…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:38:43 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197846#post197846 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197846#post197846 Great to see you have a new spot, Craig. But where is David H these days?

I suspect wee Bob has him pinned in a corner. :)

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:22:38 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197837#post197837 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197837#post197837 the thrilling, rumbling awe produced by the battle cruiser flying over my head still stounds me. It was absolutely marvellous, and nothing in movie special effects has matched it since. It was the shock wave of an entirely new approach to making movies.

Hyperbole, I suppose. But it's hard to…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:27:35 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197835#post197835 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197835#post197835 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:01:00 +1300 Geoff Lealand https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197834#post197834 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197834#post197834 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:59:46 +1300 Deborah https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197831#post197831 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197831#post197831 Sigh. With contentment. I'm delighted that you will be posting here, Craig.

I was 11 in 1977, and the thrilling, rumbling awe produced by the battle cruiser flying over my head still stounds me. It was absolutely marvellous, and nothing in movie special effects has matched it since. It was…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:27:51 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197829#post197829 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197829#post197829 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:11:10 +1300 Steve Parks https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197828#post197828 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197828#post197828 I think those original movies worked because they didn’t take themselves so seriously, and they didn’t try to do tragedy.

I'll give you the first part, but they did do tragedy. Just as they did comedy, and action, and adventure, humour, coming of age drama, revenge, buddy movie, family intrigue,…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:08:48 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197827#post197827 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197827#post197827 As Lucy says, though, it's a story about boyz. If you're a girl playing Star Wars, there is only Leia. I don't think Star Wars would pass the Bechdel Test.

I think Episode I would come closest – at least we have Amidala and her decoy. But not a pass,…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:00:29 +1300 Steve Parks https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197825#post197825 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197825#post197825 Not as farcical as Ewoks, mind.

Ah, the Ewoks: the Scrappy-Doo of the Star Wars franchise.

Even as a kid watching Return of the Jedi I saw the flaws in the whole Ewok thing. I mean, we were meant to see it as a big deal that one Ewok got…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:48:07 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197823#post197823 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197823#post197823 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:29:25 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197822#post197822 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197822#post197822 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:20:24 +1300 Robyn Gallagher https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197821#post197821 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197821#post197821 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:19:47 +1300 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197820#post197820 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197820#post197820 friend's theory is that despite the patent silliness of the first three movies, the actors played it straight

Despite at least one of them being high as a kite at the time.

I was 5 when Star Wars came out and it totally blew me away. 5-year-olds impress easily, and…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:15:41 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197819#post197819 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197819#post197819 the second series, for all their flaws entertained

I... do not believe that to be a defensible assessment. (Except for that one part where Yoda kicked some ass. I'll give you that.)

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:50:29 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197818#post197818 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197818#post197818 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:37:09 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197815#post197815 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197815#post197815 The workers who would liberate us all from our sexual repressions and life denying neurosis in the works of Lawrence and Forster should be considered as human Higgs bosons – their existence is entirely theoretical, but they explain absolutely everything. More or less.

The Seven Pillars of Wisdom? Oh, sorry,…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:01:58 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197814#post197814 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197814#post197814 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:57:34 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197813#post197813 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197813#post197813 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:56:27 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197812#post197812 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197812#post197812 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:30:45 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197809#post197809 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197809#post197809 You people are making it very difficult for me to maintain the illusion that I live in a universe where the prequels were never made. Lalalalalalala can't heeeeerrrreeeeee yooooooooouu.

This guy says it better than I can

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:18:59 +1300 Mark Graham https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197806#post197806 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197806#post197806 entertainment and the second series, for all their… ]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:04:05 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197805#post197805 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197805#post197805 Wow, I wandered off to make a cup of coffee and it occurred to me that I'd set myself up for someone to speculate how the limit was measured;

The workers who would liberate us all from our sexual repressions and life denying neurosis in the works of Lawrence and…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:55:42 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197804#post197804 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197804#post197804 Heh. Until you see Star Wars meets The Muppets.
(Sorry, I have no idea how to embed these things)

Or even better, The Star Wars Holiday Special.

It's quite possibly the funniest/most terrible thing I've ever seen. My girlfriend and I still make regular in jokes about "Itchy" and "Lumpy"…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:55:18 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197803#post197803 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197803#post197803 Wow, I wandered off to make a cup of coffee and it occurred to me that I'd set myself up for someone to speculate how the limit was measured; appearances or centermetres... but... nothing... phew.

I had work to do.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:49:52 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197800#post197800 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197800#post197800 Her death as a consequence of his fall, that makes sense. Stripping her of everything she was and had achieved before killing her...not necessary.

I was more suggesting that even choosing him could have been played as a fatal flaw in her character.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:34:57 +1300 Paul Campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197799#post197799 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197799#post197799 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:30:54 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197798#post197798 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197798#post197798 Heh. Until you see Star Wars meets The Muppets.

Cool. I used to love Pigs in Space but my favourite segment remains the Swedish Chef (who, I'm told by a Swedish friend, is known as the Finnish Chef in Sweden).

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:10:30 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197797#post197797 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197797#post197797 Maybe its that then; some sort of straight-boy cock upper-limit? It'd explain why I like drag queens too!

Wow, I wandered off to make a cup of coffee and it occurred to me that I'd set myself up for someone to speculate how the limit was measured; appearances or centermetres...…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:09:20 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197796#post197796 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197796#post197796 I have no idea how to embed these things

You just paste the whole link (including the http at the beginning) into your comment and the site does the rest automagically.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:06:44 +1300 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197794#post197794 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197794#post197794 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:57:13 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197792#post197792 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197792#post197792 there were fewer gags to take you out of the moment
Heh. Until you see Star Wars meets The Muppets.
(Sorry, I have no idea how to embed these things)

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:47:17 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197791#post197791 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197791#post197791 But Leia was an Alderaan princess (Alderaanian?).

Cell phone numbers are nowhere near as cool. :D

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:43:27 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197790#post197790 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197790#post197790 Or even E.M Forster's Maurice — which could most charitably be described as Lady Chatterley with fifty percent more cock.

Maybe its that then; some sort of straight-boy cock upper-limit? It'd explain why I like drag queens too!

I think the main problem is that Lucas was trying to mirror…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:43:04 +1300 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197789#post197789 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197789#post197789

YEah, but the weird thing is that Naboo has an elected monarchy — with term-limits, no less. (Why the frak do I know this shit? Can't remember my own cell-phone number but this...)

There are plenty of them, apparently. Why do you know? See above ;)

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:40:19 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197788#post197788 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197788#post197788 And didn't do jury service, it seems.

Is that Sarah Palin?

Whoops...

I thought the antonym pairs were: fangirl, fanboy; fangurl, fanboi.

... superstar DJs, here we go?

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:36:42 +1300 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197787#post197787 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197787#post197787 I thought the antonym pairs were: fangirl, fanboy; fangurl, fanboi.

Which you all are.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:36:42 +1300 Rob Hosking https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197785#post197785 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197785#post197785 Looking forward to regular-ish reviews delivered in your inimitable style.

I can forgive the whole “princess” thing because as a five year old the coolest thing about Leia was right from the beginning she didn’t exactly act “princessly”.

And didn't do jury service, it seems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzusuXSj8Y0&NR=1

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:32:46 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197784#post197784 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197784#post197784 incredibly young at the time of shooting Episode IV. What's remarkable is that Fisher in particular gave a weighty, assured performance that made… ]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:32:21 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197783#post197783 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197783#post197783 I can forgive the whole “princess” thing because as a five year old the coolest thing about Leia was right from the beginning she didn’t exactly act “princessly”.

YEah, but the weird thing is that Naboo has an elected monarchy — with term-limits, no less. (Why the frak do I…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:31:48 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197781#post197781 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197781#post197781 But in some kind of way it makes sense within the context of Anakin’s rise to power, that her condition is a consequence of her involvement with him. They could have done so much more with it, though.

Her death as a consequence of his fall, that makes sense. Stripping…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:26:18 +1300 Duane Griffin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197780#post197780 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197780#post197780 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:23:27 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197778#post197778 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197778#post197778 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:19:48 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197777#post197777 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197777#post197777 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:17:03 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197776#post197776 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197776#post197776 Steve Gray has a scathing review of Nights in the Gardens of Spain

Do you reckon he's read the book (or knows there is one, or who wrote it)?

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:10:59 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197775#post197775 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197775#post197775 The thing I appreciated most about ep I to III was the propensity of the jedi to problem-solve using light-sabres. Oh, and the fact that clones are all Jake The Musses.

What I personally find hilarious (and it's surely relevant to the discussion about racial stereotypes above) is that Mandalorians,…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:09:02 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197773#post197773 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197773#post197773 Is this the right time to say I liked the book?

It's never the right time, but as that great thinker Sly Stone says different strokes for different folks.

I wish in that instance Ihimaera had plagiarised someone whose style extended beyond choosing socks — Edmund White's semi-autobiographical trilogy __A…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:05:26 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197772#post197772 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197772#post197772 You're not alone, I thought III was okay. Right up until the "RAARRRRR VADER MAD!" bit at the end, then my head asploded.

"VADER MAD!" I could live with. Career options for women being reduced to Princess or Dead Mummy? Mmmm, not so much. Okay, they had to get rid…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:57:32 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197771#post197771 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197771#post197771 and I hope her ACC levy hasn't gone through the roof after handling such a load of tosh Mills & Boon would have rejected with extreme prejudice.

Is this the right time to say I liked the book?

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:56:57 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197770#post197770 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197770#post197770 What's the excuse for whoever makes Two and a Half Men, then?

Easy. Chuck Lorre worked on Roseanne, and it's Barr's fault he's a lady-hating colostomy bag, Joss Whedon, on the other hand, got over it.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:47:02 +1300 Mikaere Curtis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197769#post197769 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197769#post197769

I can understand why Jar Jar won;t get get an NAACP Image Awards in this or any other galaxy, but was it strictly necessary for the eeevil Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gunray to sound like George Takei with a three pack a day habit?

At least in ep IV, the…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:46:41 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197768#post197768 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197768#post197768 ‘Gay’ does not mean you whisper and act like a pussy.

No, Steve, that's what dykes do on date night. As for the shit spray at writer Kate McDermott (disclosure: I'm a casual acquaintance): She's a better fucking writer than Witi Ihimaera, and I hope her ACC levy hasn't gone…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:41:22 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197767#post197767 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197767#post197767 The churn factor in Australian, US and British TV may be painful to endure, but good things do happen.

What's the excuse for whoever makes Two and a Half Men, then?

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:39:50 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197766#post197766 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197766#post197766 Also: racist Jar Jar. (Jar Jar : Me :: LOTR : Giovanni)

Oh don't get me started. The Gungans were bad, but the Trade Federation dudes were genuinely horrific Chinese parodies that are probably a step beyond that old "Yellow Peril" octopus.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:38:46 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197765#post197765 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197765#post197765 Sigh! Local drama! I live in an audience area of 7 million people (the San Francisco Bay Area) and there is NO LOCAL DRAMA on television. I suspect that is the case in every metro area in the US unless it’s the locale of some network drama. (CSI Miami, for… ]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:33:58 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197764#post197764 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197764#post197764 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:33:21 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197763#post197763 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197763#post197763 I'm just really annoyed that I played my 'Death Star Canteen' card already this month. There must be a limit, I'm sure. Though damned if I can find it...

Hey, this was new to me. Star Wars on Steroids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0z_TU4Gw5o

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:28:55 +1300 Robyn Gallagher https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197762#post197762 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197762#post197762 a scathing review of Nights in the Gardens of Spain. ]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:28:46 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197760#post197760 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197760#post197760 Still liked the Jawas best though.
Utini!

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:25:16 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197759#post197759 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197759#post197759 That said the kids are interested in the other movies and I find myself on the horns of a dilemma.

Yes, especially since it's PGR.

Luckily for me I was the right age that the Ewoks were just cute and any annoyance factor went totally over my head.

I suspect…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:19:27 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197756#post197756 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197756#post197756 Not as farcical as Ewoks, mind.

Hey! Wash your mouth out. I still love ewoks.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:15:19 +1300 Lea Barker https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197754#post197754 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197754#post197754 I’ll be musing on how to do high-lactose melodramas well, and whether I’m just too hard on local drama.

Sigh! Local drama! I live in an audience area of 7 million people (the San Francisco Bay Area) and there is NO LOCAL DRAMA on television. I suspect that is the…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:14:26 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197752#post197752 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197752#post197752 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:12:18 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197751#post197751 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197751#post197751 Also: racist Jar Jar. (Jar Jar : Me :: LOTR : Giovanni)

I can understand why Jar Jar won;t get get an NAACP Image Awards in this or any other galaxy, but was it strictly necessary for the eeevil Trade Federation Viceroy Nute Gunray to sound like George Takei with…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:09:13 +1300 Robyn Gallagher https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197750#post197750 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197750#post197750 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:52 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197749#post197749 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197749#post197749 My nearly-6 year old discovered Star Wars at Christmas from other kids staying with us. I felt like she'd been cheated when she started with Episode 1, that she'd missed out on what was actually a revolutionary moment in cinema.

I wonder what her equivalent experience will be? I took…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:39 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197748#post197748 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197748#post197748 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:06:00 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197747#post197747 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197747#post197747 That said the kids are interested in the other movies and I find myself on the horns of a dilemma.

I have not seen the first (second) three. I have absolutely no plans to. Why sully my happy memories?

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:05:47 +1300 Jo S https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197746#post197746 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197746#post197746 Just to add to the list of people who will really be looking forward to your blog Craig ...

And I agree that I think it depends on how old you were when you first saw the movies – Return of the Jedi was the first "non-children's" movie I ever…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:04:46 +1300 philipmatthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197745#post197745 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197745#post197745 when he's got his twatcock on max

That one's sort of giving me a mental picture

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 14:04:24 +1300 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197743#post197743 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197743#post197743 I’m going out on a limb to say I thought Episode III was not so bad. I thought it was better than VI, that’s for sure. But I and II were the low point, no doubt.

I've heard that from others but after I and II I couldn't be arsed…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:58:54 +1300 Julian Melville https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197742#post197742 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197742#post197742 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:58:26 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197741#post197741 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197741#post197741 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:57:50 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197740#post197740 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197740#post197740 I’m more of a ‘clappity clappity’ than a squee. Does that count?

I think that 'clappity clappity' comes under the general banner of squeedom.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:57:32 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197739#post197739 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197739#post197739 What a great new feature on PA! I don't squee particularly but am most certainly a fan.

Craig, looking forward to your columns. I'll be disappointed if the smut quotient drops.

I agree with Ben though I note Craig's warned us against getting him grumpy... some of his best work…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:57:24 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197733#post197733 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197733#post197733 Craig, looking forward to your columns. I'll be disappointed if the smut quotient drops.

Megan, Leia's a princess, but not in a bad way. There's very little intimation that she's spoiled. So she's a great character to be landed with.

I tended to go for Luke, I mistook the kiss…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:50:08 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197731#post197731 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197731#post197731 But Jackie's right. You'll have to squee. Craig'll love it.

Squeeeeeeeeeee!

Actually, I'm more of a 'clappity clappity' than a squee. Does that count? ;-p

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:49:00 +1300 Danielle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197729#post197729 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197729#post197729 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:44:59 +1300 Andre https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197728#post197728 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197728#post197728 We drove from Riverlea to New Plymouth to see Star Wars – a mammoth undertaking from an eight year-old's perspective. The sequels were looked forward to for years and then discussed for years afterwards. The prequels weren't.
With 53,000 choosing Jedi at the 2001 census we know we're not alone…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:43:29 +1300 B Jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197727#post197727 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197727#post197727 I was always Leia

In my case, that was simply how it went when you had straight brown plaits at age 6, and played with boys. I had only the vaguest idea who she actually was (that had to wait until we saw Return of the Jedi and got a…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:40:51 +1300 Steve Parks https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197726#post197726 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197726#post197726 Or…OK, I’ll stop now.

No no, do go on. It's good that some have given thought to specific reasons that the prequels sucked, and I like to see the errors and inconsistencies that people pick up on.

Personally, I didn't like them because they were shit.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:37:37 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197725#post197725 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197725#post197725 Do you have to be a ‘girl’ to be a ‘fangirl’?

I see no reason why. Although then we can't use the dubiously spelled "fanboi" to describe you.

But Jackie's right. You'll have to squee. Craig'll love it.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:37:28 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197724#post197724 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197724#post197724 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:33:46 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197723#post197723 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197723#post197723 Russell accused me on Twitter of being a fangirl. To which my response is yes, yes I am.

Do you have to be a 'girl' to be a 'fangirl'?

Oh, right, probably, sorry.

Love your work, CR.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:31:39 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197722#post197722 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197722#post197722 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:30:46 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197721#post197721 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197721#post197721 What I don't understand is how, despite there being any number of girls, I was always Leia? We'd have multiple Hans, multiple Lukes, and me.

I suspect this says something not very good about me. I am going to stop analysing now.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:27:02 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197720#post197720 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197720#post197720 I still remember when my brother (who got to see The Empire Strikes Back first) traumatised me by revealing that Vader was Luke's father. Much gasping ensued.

Ah. Han Solo... *dreamy sigh*

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:27:02 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197718#post197718 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197718#post197718 I’ll admit to being kind of a Star Wars fan, but only because Star Wars was the first movie I can remember seeing. And we ‘played’ it as kids. I was ALWAYS Leia.

I was a massive Star Wars fan as a kid. My parents encouraged me-the first LP I…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:19:01 +1300 Andre Alessi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197716#post197716 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197716#post197716 Uh oh, now we’re in trouble!

I watched the Star Wars “prequels” in sequence just last week. I was thoroughly, thoroughly unimpressed with them this time around (I’ve seen them in the past and at the time I managed to find at least a few things to like about them.)…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:15:27 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197715#post197715 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197715#post197715 very quiet around here. I'm currently sitting here at the puzzle table with 3 kids, and there are another 2 elsewhere. There's supposed to be 45.) Anyway, I… ]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:15:16 +1300 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197714#post197714 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197714#post197714 I’ll admit to being kind of a Star Wars fan, but only because Star Wars was the first movie I can remember seeing. And we ‘played’ it as kids. I was ALWAYS Leia.

I think that may be my problem – I don't think I saw it until I was…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:14:52 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197712#post197712 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197712#post197712 I'm not mad keen on Star Wars as it's always struck me as a bit of a Big Dumb Action Movie in space but the kids were completely enthralled.

I'll admit to being kind of a Star Wars fan, but only because Star Wars was the first movie I can…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:07:31 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197710#post197710 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197710#post197710 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:04:00 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197707#post197707 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197707#post197707 Thanks – one major FUBAR a day keeps the ego in check.

And I need to stress, Gentle Readers, that Russell is the entirely agreeable kind of mad.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:57:40 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197704#post197704 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197704#post197704 Welcome, Craig!

I fixed one of your YouTube embeds, but I see the other one works now too, so I'm guessing Matt did so too. You need to use the HTML edit window for actual code.

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:46:13 +1300 Isabel Hitchings https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197703#post197703 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197703#post197703 Oh lovely! This makes me very happy.

Funny you should mention Star Wars – we spent the last three Saturdays showing the (proper) trilogy to the kids. I'm not mad keen on Star Wars as it's always struck me as a bit of a Big Dumb Action Movie in space…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:42:43 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197702#post197702 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197702#post197702 Yay, arty-farties!
I think someone tried to take me down on Twitter recently about being "arty-farty" but being as I can also be a bit thick-ish unless "take downs" are clearly spelled out to me, it also went straight through to the keeper.

Uh, the upshot of that all is…

]]> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:30:46 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197701#post197701 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/muse-the-high-aesthetic-line/?p=197701#post197701 Discussion from blog post.

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