Public Address | Cafe | Muse: Freakanomics (TVNZ Edition)

Robyn Gallagher

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:10:10 +1300

You know what? I'm really looking forward to NZ's Got Talent. NZ Idol may be an easy target, but while none of the contestants are massive pop stars like Kelly Clarkson, Idol did give them a foot in the door, leading to good work in the entertainment industry. Likewise, the…

Sacha

Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:51:32 +1300

Act, then

DexterX

Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:40:42 +1300

heh. politics such an obvious next step

Liz Shaw writes policy on the hoof very well – "I had fun, phuck you".

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:05:11 +1300

I thought Jane Wrightson sounded completely arrogant and out of touch.

To be fair, I'm not sure how useful it is to blame the monkey when it's the organ grinder giving you the headache.

nzlemming

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:34:55 +1300

I thought Jane Wrightson sounded completely arrogant and out of touch.

merc

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:21:24 +1300

I listened to it all, what a tangled web. Mediawatch are very brave to ask those questions in that obviously dysfunctional political environment.
I could say more...but I wont.

Sacha

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:05:13 +1300

Mediawatch covered this today

36 minute show, listening options.

Craig Ranapia

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:03:06 +1300

Mediawatch covered this today here. Would have appreciated a hat-tip, but my ego will survive. :)

http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/remote-player?id=2512372

Steve Barnes

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:43:59 +1300

No. Did it involve a greased pole?

No, that honour fell to Vlad the Impaler. Now there's a TV show, "Impale a Celebrity" we could include MPs.

Sacha

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:29:51 +1300

if the voting were held at 3am in the Viaduct, she'd be sweet

nzlemming

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 11:24:09 +1300

And Auckland Central too ;-)

Sacha

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 11:23:44 +1300

was rejected, and lost her shit

heh. politics such an obvious next step

nzlemming

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 11:03:45 +1300

No. Did it involve a greased pole?

Oh, bugger. I mixed her up with Liz Shaw. Although there is a vid on youtube of Lewis pole-dancing at an Aussie sexpo and falling and breaking her nose.

Shaw auditioned for NZ Idol and was rejected, and lost her shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOIRMe17imo

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:38:21 +1300

While Govt propaganda gets six-figure NZ On Air subsidies courtesy of con- NEC-tions.

OK, I'm only going to say this this once. Other blogs we shall not name may not give a shit about publishing defamatory comments. I do. A lot.

Please consider whether you want to push this any…

Sacha

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:24:23 +1300

Anyone remember the infamous Lisa Lewis audition?

No. Did it involve a greased pole?

nzlemming

Mon, 05 Mar 2012 10:14:21 +1300

Because talent does out, in the end. Not in NZ, sadly.

Well, it does, but you can only have so much of it in such a small population pool. While the overseas shows may rate well here for 16-26 weeks a season (that's an assumption BTW; I have no idea…

Kumara Republic

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:43:27 +1300

There's no real appetite among our broadcasters for anything that isn't reality TV or imported – presumably because those genres are cheap and cheerful.

Not to sound like Google, but did you mean "cheap and nasty"?

At the rate we are going, we will have covered our costs by about…

Steve Barnes

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:03:14 +1300

is far more positive & compalling watching,than the negative comments,of USA type of shows !

I was thinking about that when I saw an ad for a show about child chefs, I could imagine Gordon Ramsay reducing them to blubbering wrecks.
Damn, I may have given TVNZ an idea.

Allan Lee

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:50:02 +1300

There's no real appetite among our broadcasters for anything that isn't reality TV or imported – presumably because those genres are cheap and cheerful. Our production company took a punt and produced a documentary, which eventually played on Sky Sport 1 (triathlon was the background of the doco). The programme…

Geoff Lealand

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 19:04:03 +1300

There are two New Zealanders (Joe Atkinson, Mark Stewart) and myself currently at the University of Oregon (Portland) conference on "What is Television?". Very interesting presentations (producer/writers from Portlandia and The Simpsons on tomorrow) but our energy might be better spent by getting back home and fighting this battle,

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:58:04 +1300

And why is the on-line version of that story gibberish?

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:03:42 +1300

SERIOUSLY, WTF ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO HERE? GRAR!

You could (politely) e-mail Herald arts editor Linda Herrick at and suggest she lift the quality of media arts coverage by keeping this false fact out of her corner of the Herald.

Kumara Republic

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 13:32:47 +1300

Press Council complaint?

Here’s a direct link to get started. Some guidelines here. The way things are going, maybe it could become a permanent fixture?

It’s well past time to stop getting mad, and time to start getting even. We can't just wait for Leveson & Finkelstein to set up shop…

3410

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:50:18 +1300

SERIOUSLY, WTF ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO HERE? GRAR!

Press Council complaint?

Kumara Republic

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:44:30 +1300

SERIOUSLY, WTF ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO HERE? GRAR!

To the Save TVNZ7 campaign: any idea if these figures are worth taking to the Press Council & BSA?

Russell Brown

Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:23:32 +1300

AAARRRGGGH.

I know she means well, and her interview with Colin Hogg in today’s Herald is good, but Rebecca Barry Hill has ONCE AGAIN trotted out the wholly bogus “207,000 weekly viewers” number in discussing TVNZ 7.

I’m really not sure how much more I can possibly to do demonstrate…

StepDoh

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:21:57 +1300

Thought the whole point of these things was that they were funded by the $1 phonecalls to vote. Guess that funding model only works with an XX or XXX million population, rather than getting the equivalent of half the population to vote. :)

Surely they could just dredge an old…

Graham Dunster

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:37:51 +1300

At least NZOA is transparent about its funding – try getting that same information out of the NZ Film Commission at the time of funding and/or making of a feature film!

merc

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:20:36 +1300

Maori TV's vibe is aroha, TVNZ, TV#'s is hatin'. The whole USA competition scene is totally destructive and designed to suit an exploitative money model.
See why the Academy Awards were created. Also how great is a model that uses unpaid actors to attract tax payer funding?
So silly. It's…

Phil fryer

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:08:44 +1300

Has anyone watched the similar type of show's on Maori TV ?
the atitude of "judges" is far more positive & compalling watching,
than the negative comments,of USA type of shows !
I see this type of show as merely expouseure, perhaps that is a better motive !

Stewart

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:47:07 +1300

A heart-sinkingly awful display of 'the cost of everything and the value of nothing'.

I fucking despair of this lack of cultural understanding – and I'm a bit of a philistine compared to most on PAS.

Jackie Clark

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:59:43 +1300

This always amuses me, somewhat. That our television higher-ups think these things will fly, and then, because of the lack of really valuable prize money, or whatever, throw a hissy when they don't. NZ is a very small place and what singer/songwriter of any value whatsoever is ever going to…

Adrian Wills

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 04:12:17 +1300

Fk this is disappointing.

But hey, at least it's a great way of launching a successful career for some new and undiscovered New Zealand talent AMIRITE!?

Just like NZ Idol did with Ben... what was** his name?

Kumara Republic

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 23:45:14 +1300

"Fine, but the argument would be a little stronger if this charming essay in fiscal discipline hadn’t appeared under Yvonne Tahana’s by-line in the Weekend Herald on Saturday."

You’ve hit the bullseye, Craig. Somehow Got Talent is no New Faces or Showcase. If there’s no money to keep us informed,…

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 23:34:12 +1300

As an economic gesture I guess the $$$$$ thinking is it will rate highly

Almost certainly will, which demands someone ask why it can't be paid for on an entirely commercial basis.

however it has a slim chance of bombing.

Sure – it wasn't exactly a huge hit for Prime…

Chris Waugh

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 22:50:04 +1300

Bread and circuses.....

...'cept that hanging around here the last few days I have my doubts about the bread side of that equation. Hey, at least they're providing the circuses.

Jeremy Eade

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:41:51 +1300

As an economic gesture I guess the $$$$$ thinking is it will rate highly, which it almost certainly will ( = $$$$ from big tv ads) , however it has a slim chance of bombing. The government intervenes here to underwrite the costs of failure. It's very interventionist.

Melmac

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:04:12 +1300

Yes, feed the masses with drudge in order that they are no longer challenged to think. This is part of what seems of a concerted campaign to bring NZ public TV down to the lowest common denominator .

When even NZ on Air is part of the jaw-dropping drive to…

Joshua Drummond

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:55:34 +1300

Well, I for one will not miss quality media and news analysis, fascinating and fun home-grown content, and great nature documentaries. I'd much rather watch an inexplicably expensive, overproduced talent quest. What a great addition to our already sterling state TV lineup of Shows About Cooking and Shows About People's…

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Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:55:34 +1300

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