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uroskin

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:14:52 +1200

@Craig Ranapia: Catholic MPs in our (and other countries') parliaments always face interesting dilemmas. The leader they have pledged allegiance to – remember, Catholicism involves subjugation to the infallibility and the precedence of Vatican diktats over mere domestic profane law – has ordered them to prevent or change laws that…

Tim McKenzie

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:19:32 +1200

In most churches I can't rally my fellow congregants to roll the minister, rewrite the scriptures, or spend the tithes on high alcohol communion whiskey, but student associations are constituted in a democratic and open way.

Most Baptist churches in New Zealand are run democratically (and, to a large extent,…

giovanni tiso

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:44:02 +1200

Ahem... ranted in the wrong thread.

giovanni tiso

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:36:53 +1200

Dear Lord, a union is like a church... so glad I was away from PAS yesterday and am grateful to those who argued against the proposition.

Suppressing exclamations of "what's with this fucking country?" has been hard over the last week.

Kyle Matthews

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:18:29 +1200

Sorry to disappoint.

I get a prize right?

Craig Ranapia

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:51:15 +1200

Thank God it held on to its MP in parliament, Bill English representing the Vatican for the South Pacific.

Oh, of course — those fucking Papists. Let them in Parliament (or the White House) and they'll have us all kissing the Pope's ring by nightfall. Really, take a reality check…

Graeme Edgeler

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:44:11 +1200

I'm picking WFF as the ultimate target.

Sorry to disappoint.

How would that even make sense? As Stephen notes, the analogy is imperfect as it is...

Don Christie

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:31:13 +1200

I'm picking WFF as the ultimate target.

And of course, we already do subsidize churches and their damned schools.

uroskin

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:43:57 +1200

The Catholic Church really got into a pickle when it lost its universatility, including universal church laws and church taxes, in the Reformation, which was really swapping one spiritual overlord and attendant costs for another.
Thank God it held on to its MP in parliament, Bill English representing the Vatican…

Stephen Judd

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:05:28 +1200

In that case, it stands out to me that the big argument against the case for church tax made here is that the church provides the service as a result of its theological imperatives, hence the quality and range of services is not ideal or representative of what the population…

Gareth Ward

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:01:46 +1200

Roger Douglas' bill on Voluntary Student Membership of Student Associations

Ahhhh. In that case, solid argument...

Graeme Edgeler

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:55:04 +1200

A good parody needs to be at least slightly plausible.

What do you mean slightly plausible? Didn't you read the wikipedia link and state department webpage =)

Yes, I'm trying to figure out which policy (Kiwisaver, perhaps?) is being parodied here.

Ahh. You don't know me well enough, is all.…

Kyle Matthews

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:53:22 +1200

Roger Douglas' bill on Voluntary Student Membership of Student Associations was drawn from the ballot last week.

Stephen Judd

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:48:47 +1200

Yes, I'm trying to figure out which policy (Kiwisaver, perhaps?) is being parodied here.

Thomas Beagle

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:46:44 +1200

A good parody needs to be at least slightly plausible.

Now waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Angus Robertson

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:37:55 +1200

A damn good idea, why should churches be merely the preserve of the religious.

Public Address

Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:37:55 +1200

Discussion from blog post.