Public Address | Cafe | Legal Beagle: The Spinoff: Offensive and Inaccurate? When proof of accuracy isn't enough to prove accuracy

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 12 Sept 2016 15:43:23 +1200

It's not a blog

Ok, it's a website containing articles on matters of current interest. (BTW, don't call this a comment. It's an eclectic and erudite pontification. With links.)

Ah gotcha: helpfully collated by the Law Commission.

I'm not sure I agree with the idea that being a Real Journalist…

Graeme Edgeler

Mon, 12 Sept 2016 12:39:02 +1200

Is the Spinoff an independent blog or is there a media outlet (or NZ on Air) funding behind it?

It's not and a blog, and I don't believe there's another media outlet (or NZ on Air) funding it.

I don't see why an online outlet should become a Press Council…

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 12 Sept 2016 10:08:47 +1200

Is the Spinoff an independent blog or is there a media outlet (or NZ on Air) funding behind it?

I don't see why an online outlet should become a Press Council member, especially if they come out with rulings like this. ISTR some discussion when they first started accepting online…

Moz

Mon, 12 Sept 2016 09:53:56 +1200

Doesn't this mean the turtles will have to go all the way down?

That was my thought. To quote Carl Sagan "if you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe". Presumably if you wish to publish an article you must first prove that…

Ross Mason

Sat, 10 Sept 2016 12:06:36 +1200

Lawyers entertainment.
Tort toys.

Matthew Hooton

Sat, 10 Sept 2016 07:06:01 +1200

Doesn't this mean the turtles will have to go all the way down?

Trevor Nicholls

Sat, 10 Sept 2016 01:25:45 +1200

But apparently it's now a crime, subject to legal sanctions. When did that happen?

It wasn't a criminal investigation. The character alleged to have made homophobic statements was not the accused but the complainant.

Lack of comprehension is a defect which can be cured by education and training. It's not…

Gregor Ronald

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 20:16:10 +1200

I thought being homophobic was a character defect, which could be cured by education and cognitive therapy. But apparently it's now a crime, subject to legal sanctions. When did that happen?

Martin Brown

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 20:11:21 +1200

But...so what? Does it matter what the 'Press Council' rules. To a digital magazine-thing in 2016? Will people be arrested? Will their servers be seized? Isn't this finding completely redundant?

Rob Stowell

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 20:04:44 +1200

Did Davis’ broadcast include ‘the particular examples’ proving his statements on Radio Sport?
Broadcasting standards are a different beast? But it raises a bunch of questions. Eg what if the “evidence” was in the link – which has now disappeared? Using links for evidence becomes out of bounds?
Also: opinion…

Russell Brown

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 19:35:19 +1200

Would it also be fair to say that while requiring The Spinoff to prove in its article a case it was able to prove outside it, the Press Council did not make the same demand of the complainant's complaint?

Russell Brown

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 19:33:30 +1200

If it's the NewsHub column I'm think it is, MediaWorks seems to have removed the "boyfriend" bit.

Tim Michie

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 18:14:20 +1200

Did Davis' broadcast include 'the particular examples' proving his statements on Radio Sport? Dis he provide 'a range of other material' to support his statements? This example shows the innate abstruseness Press Council process.

Rob Stowell

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 15:43:29 +1200

It's ridiculous. Hope the council are feeling sheepish – and let's hope there's editorial comment on this across the press.
The spinoff will spin it, surely!

Public Address

Fri, 09 Sept 2016 15:43:29 +1200

Discussion from blog post.