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				<title>Martin Brown</title>
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						Go Graeme. Good stuff.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 19:23:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						In practice the removal of the financial veto would merely force minor government parties to explicitly kill off bills, and not let the Finance Minister carry the can. If I was English I'd be pretty happy to lose it.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:21:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Before MMP, the government always had a majority on every matter (except in the case of a rebellion by their own MPs) and the need to veto legislation would never arise.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 13:08:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Changes to Standing Orders are done by consensus, and usually by unanimity.</q></p><p>IOW, it's extremely unlikely that the current regime will acquiesce to the removal of the financial veto given that its existence has allowed them to nuke private members' bills that they find offensive.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:58:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Who introduced the Financial Veto into Standing Orders, Graeme? Was it Labour giving with one hand while taking with the other? Or is this odious concept a National creation?</q></p><p>Changes to Standing Orders are done by consensus, and usually by unanimity.</p><p>Something in the nature of the financial veto has…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:48:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Who introduced the Financial Veto into Standing Orders, Graeme? Was it Labour giving with one hand while taking with the other? Or is this odious concept a National creation?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:36:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steven Peters</title>
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						<p>"during various votes on the same-sex marriage legislation, where people watching from home (and, I understand, from overflow rooms in the Parliamentary precinct), spent several minutes watching a basically blank screen while elevator music was playing".</p><p>Our very own North Korea moment. I cannot see MPs' wanting to be seen,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:47:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						Sorry about the footnotes :-)
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:24:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:24:10 +1300</pubDate>
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